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Avonu
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Embracing light and darkness
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posted January 13, 2015 01:35 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 13:36, 13 Jan 2015.
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Haven on adventure map from Gamescom trailer - hmm... it seems to have something, that town screen is lacking but what it could be? 
And also for all who have difficulties with finding Elrath's statue on Limbic's town screen:
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Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi!
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Zombi_Wizzard
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posted January 13, 2015 02:09 PM |
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War-overlord
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Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted January 13, 2015 02:20 PM |
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Zombi_Wizzard said:
What does Elrath eat?
Gods don't need to eat.
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LizardWarrior
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Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted January 13, 2015 02:32 PM |
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Zombi_Wizzard said:
What does Elrath eat?
Unbelievers
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted January 13, 2015 02:34 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 14:34, 13 Jan 2015.
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War-overlord said:
Gods don't need to eat.
Depends on god. Some don't need anything, others "eat" worship and some others indeed need to eat (souls - Chaos Gods for example).
Elrath eats... Righteousness. 
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Avirosb
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Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted January 13, 2015 02:40 PM |
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alcibiades
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Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted January 13, 2015 03:09 PM |
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Maurice said:
That's why they should implement different looks, like they did with Heroes 4.
No. No no no no no. H4 town screens were the absolutely worst of the series ever. The fact that they were made modular so they could appear on any terrain didn't solve the problem at all, it only meant that towns looked bad BOTH on the adventure map AND on the town screen. At least with the H3 solution, they looked good on the town screen, even if they did look a bit weird when they spawned outside their native terrain on the adventure map.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted January 13, 2015 03:15 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 16:02, 13 Jan 2015.
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Gryphs said:
I would not call it very colorful time if we are talking about buildings that is as most were made out of wood and stone the grey and brown colors are inevitable.
Well that depends on the buildings. At the time of their construction, the human faces which adorn the porches of cathedrals were painted lively colors : of the blue, the red, the white, the green, the black and even the gold ? These numerous traces of polychromies, of an unsuspected largeness, were discovered during the recent restoration of portals. Cathedral of Amiens is a good example, one of the nicest "classical" gothic churches of the XIIIth century, acknowledged by specialists as a model of architectural perfection.
Back to the TS workshop, I centralized under one animated gif the three versions from which I altered atmosphere :
I used Elrath's statue provided by Avonu, I think it looks better than the other one.
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Storm-Giant
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Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted January 13, 2015 03:27 PM |
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I'd love to see a snow Haven TS someday. H7 was a good opportunity for this...
LizardWarrior said:
Zombi_Wizzard said:
What does Elrath eat?
Unbelievers
 
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dark-whisperer
Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
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posted January 13, 2015 04:05 PM |
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@Galaad
My favorite is closest to original. I admire the amount of work and passion you spent on making alternative town screens. I think you deserve QP for it.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted January 13, 2015 04:07 PM |
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dark-whisperer said:
I think you deserve QP for it.
Already got it 
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dark-whisperer
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Darkness feels no mercy
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posted January 13, 2015 04:11 PM |
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Ah, missed it. Well deserved QP.
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War-overlord
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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted January 13, 2015 04:12 PM |
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It's likely due to the contrast of colours, but the yellow stone of the citadel-hill looks like an open gold-vein now.
It's there in the original too, I know, but due to the bright colours of the originals, it's not as conspicuous.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted January 13, 2015 04:51 PM |
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alcibiades said:
H4 town screens were the absolutely worst of the series ever. The fact that they were made modular so they could appear on any terrain didn't solve the problem at all, it only meant that towns looked bad BOTH on the adventure map AND on the town screen.
The fact that they were modular had nothing to do with how it was displayed on the terrain. The fact that they were modular made them look bad, period.
Seriously, take the Haven townscreen from Heroes 3. Someone made a mod for it, making it look like it was under heavy snowfall (I can't find the image anymore, regretably - if anyone knows which one I mean and where to find it, feel free to link it ). Same townscreen, but different seasonal setting. And that's all there is to it, really; design a townscreen - which can be as beautiful and as ugly as anything - and then create different variaties / flavors / versions of the backdrop and each of the images projected on it. One at high summer, one in wintery snowfall, or perhaps one for all seasons as well as the terrain types on which it occurs. One at dusk, at dawn, midday. Then simply make sure that of each of the different versions, it selects the correct graphic and draws that on screen.
That has nothing to do with the actual setting and everything with the atmosphere such an image breathes. Heroes 4 townscreens sucked in their setting, plain and simple.
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Kronos1000
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Fryslân Boppe
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posted January 13, 2015 04:56 PM |
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Some nice work there, Galaad! I think the one without the snow looks the best, but any of them looks better than the current official one, which looks really unfinished compared to these.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted January 13, 2015 06:03 PM |
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Maurice said:
(I can't find the image anymore, regretably - if anyone knows which one I mean and where to find it, feel free to link it
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Hero of Order
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posted January 13, 2015 06:26 PM |
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The snowman is the best part!
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted January 13, 2015 06:30 PM |
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dat snowman
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cleglaw
Famous Hero
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posted January 13, 2015 06:47 PM |
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Edited by cleglaw at 18:49, 13 Jan 2015.
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hmm i guess im going to pick "without snow" too, its defienetly brilliant. new elrath statue looks far better in both position/shape. walls, houses and other improvements are really nice. its finnaly looking like a proper haven town.
side note: as a last wish, i think this town needs some stone roads.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted January 13, 2015 07:33 PM |
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Maurice said:
The fact that they were modular had nothing to do with how it was displayed on the terrain. The fact that they were modular made them look bad, period.
Well I agree with you to some extent, but the only way to realistically make town screens look good with variable settings will be to make different skins for each building for each setting, because otherwise they won't match light setting, climate etc. of the new setting (you need snow cover in snow setting, while snow cover obviously can't be present in desert setting, etc.). That basically means that each set of building will have to be made 5 or 6 times, and chance of that happening is zero.
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