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Zeki
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posted May 01, 2015 03:09 PM |
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That sure is going to the right direction.  moving the town portal and that other building inside was direly needed, it was just plain stupid in the original ts. I also lije the small houses in ghe background, they might even be a few more. On the left side there should be some roads and stuff as the building are just standing in plain grass. Now the last bigger problem is that cathedral(?) in ghe lower right corner. I'd move it into the town just above its current position and then put the whole wall at the very edge of the slope as there are no more buildings on the other side.
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cleglaw
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posted May 01, 2015 03:19 PM |
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Edited by cleglaw at 15:25, 01 May 2015.
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@Minastir
it cannot get fixed much, the artist who made it, did a huge mistake with centralizing the castle at the start. as an artist i can assure you this is the main problem. and acctually you dont need my assurance, your gif shows that too: as you can see castle is not at the center, but at the end of the town.
if i were the guy drawing this, i would be starting with castle+capitol hybrid at the edge of a far cliff, and then build the rest to come close to camera/observer/screen whatever with lots of ramps to create a good perspective allowing everything to be seen from one point.
another big adventage of this, the towers and other things can merge with sky, creating a beutiful silhouette.
this could be done much better man  i dont understand how a company like ubisoft made such bad artist choice and said "okay." they can create a better town screen from zero only for a cost of 500-1000euro. its not a big price if you ask me.
okay i have an offer to devs to community, to everyone else: i can try to make a new one at the end of the may. for modding? for main game if devs want it? whatever, i can try somethings. i just cant accept current town screen. 2-3 weeks later i ll be free from jobs i currently have. or we can make a ts together as much as i can see we have talented people here.
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PandaTar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted May 01, 2015 03:25 PM |
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Well, this is the company that made a crab squashed by a brick look like a town. 
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted May 01, 2015 05:19 PM |
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I agree, while improved from a logical point of view, it still has some inherent flaws - the damn wall that blocks everything in front and kills any immersion being a prominent one.
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PandaTar
Responsible
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posted May 07, 2015 06:26 PM |
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Another two concepts I thought interesting to share.
Human town on a cliff and docks on a shore. | this one might be the kind of thing Cleglaw was talking about.
Desert town. | this one has some viable options to design dwellings by exploring the far scenery and all surroundings. Using Stronghold as an example, those cliffs at the background could be where Wyverns were 'hired'. Truly cramming all units into a town as if they were citizens look very odd, imho. So you have the town nearby for sociable units, and the rest of the scenery to explore other buildings and dwellings for wilder units.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted May 07, 2015 07:36 PM |
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Minastir
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted May 07, 2015 07:37 PM |
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Made a quick gif to show how much Haven TS was remade 
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted May 07, 2015 08:07 PM |
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What is Elrath doing to that town!?
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Dies_Irae
Supreme Hero
with the perfect plan
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posted May 07, 2015 08:09 PM |
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 07, 2015 08:10 PM |
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Protecting it from the sun? Wait..
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kiryu133
Responsible
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Highly illogical
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posted May 07, 2015 08:20 PM |
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Elvin said:
Protecting it from the sun? Wait..
So instead of praising the sun i get a face full of Elrath? not sure how to feel about that.
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted May 07, 2015 08:29 PM |
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Edited by Gryphs at 20:30, 07 May 2015.
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Why? Must there always be a gigantic statue of elrath made of solid gold?
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Dies_Irae
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with the perfect plan
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posted May 07, 2015 08:30 PM |
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Gryphs said:
Why? Must there always be a gigantic statue of elrath?
What spiders are for Necropolis is Elrath for Haven, apparently  . Deity-fetish taken to the extreme.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted May 07, 2015 08:49 PM |
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Gryphs said:
Why? Must there always be a gigantic statue of elrath made of solid gold?
Good new is that since statue is grail structure, you'll hardly ever see it in game.
The new screen definitely looks a lot better (statue aside), the building placement on the ground looks so much better and now you can actually navigate around most of town, but ... Town Portal and Transept still locked between wall and gorge?
EDIT > Oh, I see now that you are supposed to march your army along that teeni-tiny path along the wall to get to the Town Portal? lolwut
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted May 07, 2015 09:01 PM |
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alcibiades said:
EDIT > Oh, I see now that you are supposed to march your army along that teeni-tiny path along the wall to get to the Town Portal? lolwut
You even have to take a little leap off the drawbridge to get there good look if you have siege equipment.
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Minastir
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posted May 07, 2015 09:06 PM |
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alcibiades said:
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Good new is that since statue is grail structure, you'll hardly ever see it in game.
That's what I was thinking as well, how often do you have grail in your town ? rarely, that's why it doesn't really bother me
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Zombi_Wizzard
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posted May 07, 2015 09:06 PM |
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alcibiades said:
> Oh, I see now that you are supposed to march your army along that teeni-tiny path along the wall to get to the Town Portal? lolwut
If there was atleast a fence or rail or something ... seems dangerous. Never forget tho. In Ashan gravity is low. Look that armor or weapon they're using with no effort. Low gravity. The gigantic golden statue and building/walls standing inches from cliff ... low gravity.
As far as gold statue goes. Again. It's Copper that is luxury item in Ashan, not gold. On our roofs in real world lot of them have copper tubing (idk how to say in english) for watter, and other copper parts. In Ashan, they have gold instead. You don't see golden roofed city on Earth ... That's why you don't see copper rooftops in Ashan ... Gold is their copper.
You see big bronze statues of gods here on Earth. Similarly you find huge Elrath's statues made of gold in Ashan ... and lower gravity allows for realy huge things no problem. It's still extraordinary. But you see? It all adds up. 
EDIT: That, or you can go by the theory, that it's just wooden statue, sprayed with golden paint.
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Steyn
Supreme Hero
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posted May 07, 2015 09:23 PM |
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alcibiades said:
The new screen definitely looks a lot better (statue aside)
I actually think that this statue(?) looks much better than the old one.
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properkheldar
Famous Hero
Keeper of books
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posted May 07, 2015 09:27 PM |
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Dies_Irae said:
Gryphs said:
Why? Must there always be a gigantic statue of elrath?
What spiders are for Necropolis is Elrath for Haven, apparently . Deity-fetish taken to the extreme.
Yes, big difference from like say gigantic devil avatars growing out of mountains.
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted May 07, 2015 09:47 PM |
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properkheldar said:
Yes, big difference from like say gigantic devil avatars growing out of mountains.
Blasphemer! Burn him ... BUUUURN HIM on a pyre.
Haha joking ... that wasn't gigantic avatar ... it was merely a projection ... like a Batman sign. 
I admit it was silly, just as Elrath. And I don't mind either one 
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