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Drake
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posted August 24, 2014 09:20 PM |
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Edited by Drake at 04:42, 28 Aug 2014.
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Pexia: In the Make
I'm planning to release a WOG map sometime..it will be my first, but here is a feature. I may eventually need some help (balancing, scripting, beta-testing)
Surface-
Underground-
I plan on this map being an 8 vs 8 free for all map with a great story-line for each player.
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~Drake Lyon~
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Sal
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posted August 24, 2014 09:25 PM |
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Edited by Sal at 21:28, 24 Aug 2014.
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Minimap is bad 
I mean, once you start to design terrains and objects over it, it will look scarce if you keep the actual colors and will look messed if you change terrains. Remember that minimap is affected by every pixel you add, is not like Heroes 4. Try to find good looking designs but which also ensure some grass or dirt areas.
50% of the XXL underground on snow will kill eyes. Also on lava, very few objects fit, not nice flowers and such.
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Drake
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posted August 24, 2014 11:23 PM |
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It looked a lot better in the map editor :/ Thanks for your input though man, I'll try and fix it in some way
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~Drake Lyon~
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Drake
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posted August 25, 2014 12:33 AM |
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Edited by Drake at 01:39, 25 Aug 2014.
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Sal said:
Minimap is bad
I mean, once you start to design terrains and objects over it, it will look scarce if you keep the actual colors and will look messed if you change terrains. Remember that minimap is affected by every pixel you add, is not like Heroes 4. Try to find good looking designs but which also ensure some grass or dirt areas.
50% of the XXL underground on snow will kill eyes. Also on lava, very few objects fit, not nice flowers and such.
I changed the surface minimap up a bit, does that look better?
I think I'll have to find a better underground image, I'm looking for something like a shaman or Indian chieftain
EDIT: I found something for the underground that goes well with this map in general. Not much grass or dirt yet, but this time there is enough room to add that.
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Sal
Famous Hero
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posted August 25, 2014 06:08 AM |
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Edited by Sal at 06:21, 25 Aug 2014.
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No, you don't understand. Try to decorate your XXL map and you will see what I mean after a few days of work. The minimaps in H3, unless some genious picture, have to be made from multiple parts, first processed into photoshop to fit Heroes 3 palette.
If you just take a nice picture, there are big chances you get what I see there: 80% snow, with only 50 decorations on 1700 to be able to use on.
Kingslayer made such map 2 years ago, he found an impressive picture, then he designed on. When he saw that every other pixel than underground will screw the minimap, he decided to go only underground outfit, and here is the result: who will enjoy spending hours in such environment?
On the other side, processing multiple parts images but keeping an important percentage of each terrain, will just give exactly what you need to start designing something people will enjoy to explore.
If you want a perfect minimap from one picture, either you make a small/medium map, or you spend months to remove passability from all obstacles, so they don't affect your minimap, like the chinese map Way home. He processed EVERY decoration through special editor to get such result:
 
My two cents, you can start decorating your map then see how it goes.
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Drake
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posted August 25, 2014 09:00 AM |
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I have no idea how to decorate my maps like that :/ But I think I know what you mean, a map is better playable with more terrain to vary from. I'll see if I can make it more lively.
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Drake
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posted August 25, 2014 09:02 AM |
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Thanks for your advice by the way, what you explained to me was extremely helpful 
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~Drake Lyon~
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Sal
Famous Hero
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posted August 25, 2014 09:03 AM |
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Don't focus too much on minimap perfection, the sacrifices to keep it clean are not worth. Already been there.
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Drake
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posted August 25, 2014 09:24 AM |
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I won't lol, I was just assuming that some sacrifices had to be made for the benefit of the gameplay experience. I'll upload my results when I finish with them
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Drake
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posted August 26, 2014 02:40 AM |
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Edited by Drake at 04:40, 28 Aug 2014.
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Hey Sal, how is this?
Surface-
Underground-
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~Drake Lyon~
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Sal
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posted August 26, 2014 10:08 AM |
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Hey Drake, not sure what to say. Try to decorate it and see how it goes.
Personally I don't like much the minimap, looks multiple copy/paste and hardly can get what's about. But don't let my advice stop you, tastes are as anuses, everyone has one and for others it often stinks. 
I think you should have a precise idea about what your story will be, which heroes you will use, what plot, what ending, and all this before thinking at minimap, it will much help to create an inspired one.
Good luck.
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Drake
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posted August 26, 2014 06:14 PM |
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I was inspired by a show Xavier: Renegade Angel I've got a great story line imagined for it already as well. Decorating it seems to work well too
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~Drake Lyon~
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Drake
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posted August 28, 2014 05:13 AM |
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Hey Sal, when play testing my map, saving isn't possible. It says
"Too small SavedGameExtraBlockSize: 4000000
Size required is at least: 4267575"
What could be wrong? I validated the map and everything seems fine.
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~Drake Lyon~
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Sal
Famous Hero
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posted August 28, 2014 05:15 AM |
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Please upload latest to wikisend.com, I will look at.
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Drake
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 28, 2014 05:21 AM |
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Sal said:
Please upload latest to wikisend.com, I will look at.
Thank you, here it is Pexia WOG v1.h3m
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Drake
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posted August 28, 2014 05:25 AM |
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I played as the purple player since it's the one I've done the most work on
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Sal
Famous Hero
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posted August 28, 2014 05:26 AM |
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ERA\Tools\Mod Manager\presets folder, there should be a list with the mods you use, please paste here that list (if none, save one in mod manager)
Do you use Era 2.46 or 2.55?
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Drake
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posted August 28, 2014 05:31 AM |
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Sal said:
ERA\Tools\Mod Manager\presets folder, there should be a list with the mods you use, please paste here that list (if none, save one in mod manager)
Do you use Era 2.46 or 2.55?
Nothing in the presets folder, but I found the mod list:
WoG
Fast Battle Animation
Yona
Secondary Skills Scrolling
New Objects Patch
Morn Battlefields
HmS_Improved_Interface
Disposable Spell-Scrolls
Invited Tavern-en
XXL
Random skin
Darkened Players
Overflow_Fix
WoG Revised
Mithril Smelter
I am using 2.55, I almost forgot, but perhaps that could be a bug in 2.55. I'll switch back to 2.46 and test it out
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Drake
Adventuring Hero
Satisfying no one since 1994
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posted August 28, 2014 05:33 AM |
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It was because of 2.55..sorry for wasting your time. Thanks for helping me out though
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Sal
Famous Hero
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posted August 28, 2014 05:33 AM |
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yes is surely 2.55 as I can save in 2.46. I will advertise Bersy about the bug.
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