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Zenofex
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posted September 07, 2014 09:51 AM

Anti-terrorism colouring book for children

What the **** ?!??!??!

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frostymuaddib
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posted September 07, 2014 10:52 AM

I think this is some kind of joke. It has to be!


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Lexxan
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posted September 07, 2014 12:02 PM

Tasteless, inappropriate and just as hate-proliferating as terrorist propaganda. gj x 0.

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Tsar-Ivor
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posted September 07, 2014 12:47 PM

Finally, colouring books that adults can use too, you Americans have it all.
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posted September 07, 2014 02:59 PM

obviously, the emphasis isn't on telling the truth, everything appears quite black and white (which is good thing for a colouring book )
the topic is so dense and complicated, how would you expect a young children to understand it?

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bloodsucker
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posted September 07, 2014 04:18 PM

Fauch said:
obviously, the emphasis isn't on telling the truth, everything appears quite black and white (which is good thing for a colouring book )
the topic is so dense and complicated, how would you expect a young children to understand it?


F..., this is irony, right? Now I understand some people that hated me for things I said being ironic and they tooked seriously...

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fred79
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posted September 07, 2014 08:11 PM

wtf? wow. i don't see these coloring books having much "staying" power.

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Sandman
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posted September 08, 2014 01:04 PM

Americans eh

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kipshasz
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posted September 08, 2014 02:41 PM

still not as bad as the ammo manufacturer Jihawg. or is it?
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Fauch
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posted September 08, 2014 03:30 PM

bloodsucker said:
Fauch said:
obviously, the emphasis isn't on telling the truth, everything appears quite black and white (which is good thing for a colouring book )
the topic is so dense and complicated, how would you expect a young children to understand it?


F..., this is irony, right? Now I understand some people that hated me for things I said being ironic and they tooked seriously...

what?

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blizzardboy
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posted September 08, 2014 04:34 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 17:12, 08 Sep 2014.

There are also coloring books about waste management/recycling, household safety, traffic safety, domestic criminals, soldiers in the World Wars, etc.

The only thing that makes this book contraversial is that the subject is foreign criminals as opposed to domestic ones, which can be upsetting for groups of people in E Europe or the Middle East. Obviously it's not a coloring book patented for, say, 4-year-olds, but if this was a pre-adolescent/adolescent (~8-13) book that dealt with policeman and burglars, and other domestic criminals, etc., nobody would be raising an eyebrow. Nobody would be accusing the adolescent coloring book of not going into an in-depth analysis of criminology and the mitigating factors that may reduce the culpability of the domestic criminal's actions. For a child's coloring book, they would be perfectly content in it instilling a rudimentary understanding that violent criminals are objectively harmful and deviant to the world.

And, btw, since this quaint forum has a reputation for such colorful and imaginative opinions concerning terrorism, I'm perfectly content to just kick back and watch you guys steeply lose this demographic battle. It's a fact that Islamic terrorism is spreading into far more countries that don't directly affect the US, (India and China foremost among them), which is day by day further burying the new age myth that terrorism is grounded in US intervention and placing it into the dumpsters of discarded ideas.
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blizzardboy
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posted September 08, 2014 04:53 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 17:03, 08 Sep 2014.

edit:

Okay, I need to partially backpedal now that I've actually clicked on the link and looked at the material. It's early in the morning and I lacked the common sense to know Zeno would have scavenged for something ridiculous to get people excited.

Yes, that coloring comic has a dehumanizing and disturbing way of how it presents the subject. It's designed around supporting a very specific agenda (with the way it specifically highlights Israel as "America's best friend", etc). So the book is bad.

The problem, however, is with the presentation, not with the concept itself. I have zero problem with a coloring book that deals with contemporary terrorism & anti-terrorism. If you do, you might as well completely scrap G.I. Joe, Dragonball Z, and a thousand other things along with it for being allegedly violent.
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Sal
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posted September 08, 2014 05:13 PM

blizzardboy said:
burying the new age myth that terrorism is grounded in US intervention


A myth? You got 11 September, Boston bomb, countless US embassies attacks, Stevens killed, 1 million videos showing thousand people burning US flags and you call it a myth?

Alice in wonderlands is a myth.

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blizzardboy
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posted September 08, 2014 05:27 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 19:33, 08 Sep 2014.

Terrorism comes in many forms. Islamic terrorism is primarily centered around an idealogy that supports the concept of a caliphate and the dissemination of secular regimes in general. This is why a host of nations around the globe are all contending with it in various ways. The source of the beligerancy is in a religious-political platform that is inherently at odds with governments that don't agree with their vision.

The biggest news story - which doesn't make it the sole or even necessarily the biggest issue - is contention between the United States military and Islamic terrorists. This is because the US is overwhelmingly the most influential source of culture and information in the world, so it's just an inevitable happenstance that it's going to end up attracting a lot of "hits", even outside of the US proper. If you tap into regional news sources across the world, there are a lot of countries that are all dealing with terrorism. Just look up news sources from the Philippines, Nigeria, Britain, France, Russia, India, etc etc. Some of these countries are actually dealing with Islamic terrorism far more aggressively and with far more commitment than what the US is, including this forum's bromantic knight in shining armor, the glorious Motherland (not that I necessarily have a problem with them dealing with it aggressively)

The reason why Islamic terrorism is a 20th/21st century issue is because:

A) Prior to WW1, there was already an expansive Islamic state in place. There was no need for underground terrorists because Islamic countries could just beat the **** out of people with conventional warfare. i.e. 1) the conquest of tribal Middle East, 2) the invasion of N. Africa, Spain/Portugal and the (unsuccessful) invasion of France. 3) The 2nd invasion of Spain/Portugal, 4) the invasion of Israel/Byzantine in the Middle Ages (and the subsequent series of wars it triggered after the Byzantine Emperor petitioned to the western kingdoms for help) 5) the invasion into eastern and central Europe post-Middle Ages  6) the invasion into Pakistan/India/southern Russia.

There is nothing exclusive about Islamic nations and conquest. I don't have an inordinate desire to pick on them. Conquest is a universal human experience, however, I don't consider it paranoid to say that Islamic motivations are uniquely and exceptionally grafted into its socio-religious-political makeup and have proven to be extremely durable throughout the ages because of how it so succinctly tied in to its founder.

B) The world wasn't as deeply intermixed as it is now
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bloodsucker
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posted September 08, 2014 05:28 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 17:32, 08 Sep 2014.

Sal said:
blizzardboy said:
burying the new age myth that terrorism is grounded in US intervention


A myth? You got 11 September, Boston bomb, countless US embassies attacks, Stevens killed, 1 million videos showing thousand people burning US flags and you call it a myth?

Alice in wonderlands is a myth.


F... That's almost the only thing I agree with Blizz. Ok that european terrorists still didn't crashed airplanes against buildings but what about ETA and IRA?

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Sal
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posted September 08, 2014 05:34 PM

I think that terrorism is mostly a form of fight the weak has to go through, against the strong. This is why, as you said, it is spread worldwide. You have Tibetan terrorism as well. Now, not criticizing all US actions, but most of them creates terrorism, as they do a lot of collateral damage. ¨

People want to revenge. This is normal behavior.

About the culture part, well, I let you believe that. I love America but if I were to say which culture is the most overwhelming, America would be at the bottom of my list.

I mean Culture, not crap please. The day when a Michelangelo or Raphael will be born in America, I will revise my opinion.

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bloodsucker
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posted September 08, 2014 05:48 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 18:17, 08 Sep 2014.

Sal said:
I think that terrorism is mostly a form of fight the weak has to go through, against the strong. This is why, as you said, it is spread worldwide. You have Tibetan terrorism as well. Now, not criticizing all US actions, but most of them creates terrorism, as they do a lot of collateral damage. ¨

People want to revenge. This is normal behavior.

About the culture part, well, I let you believe that. I love America but if I were to say which culture is the most overwhelming, America would be at the bottom of my list.

I mean Culture, not crap please. The day when a Michelangelo or Raphael will be born in America, I will revise my opinion.


They had to be born between the native americans by that time. We can't even be sure they weren't.

How many Raphaels can you name in Europe from XIX century to our days?
Not that I desagree with u. I also get bored of the McDonald's culture.

Blizzardboy said - The reason why Islamic terrorism is a 20th/21st century issue is because

The reason is because the second war winners didn't wanted the jews in Europe (or America) more then the Nazis so they provide them with anything they needed to take the "promissed land". What else would you expect to happen?
We have been supporting a genocide for more then half a century, of course it had to lead to extremist reactions.
Add to this the fact the 1st world is completley oil dependent and they have a lot of oil in the Middle East (so they aren't so poor and powerless has they would be without it) and you have the keys to understand islamic positions.

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artu
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posted September 08, 2014 08:22 PM
Edited by artu at 20:25, 08 Sep 2014.

The causality between US military action and Islamic terrorism is not strictly deterministic but to almost suggest they have nothing to do with each other is naive. Also, to compare that with conquest as if it is a modern day replacement of it, cant be further from the truth. Most radical Islamic movements today(not internal Sunni/Shiite stuff but the ones against the West)are openly declaring themselves defensive. They don't consider their acts part of war in Dar-ül Harp (the "agressive" world that is not ruled by Islam) but they consider it cleaning Dar-ül Islam (House of Islam) because they consider themselves under conquest.

No matter what writes in the Quran, a developed, politically and economically stable country, even if the majority are Muslims and even if the state is ruled by Islamic law, will not try medieval conquest or military invasion of the West. History does not progress that way, conquest of heathens is an economical model of a different time. No civilization or culture will stick to religion that anachronically.

Not just people from Eastern Europe or Middle East, everybody except some of the US citizens, are very well aware of the fact that the reason of US existence in Middle-East is priorly about profit, energy and natural resources and the pre-calculated loss of human life, "the collateral damage" is caused by an imperialistic agenda. If the Muslims think China or Russia is trying something similar, they will naturally give the same reaction to them. The countries you pick to make your point aren't exactly Switzerland or Canada either.

Just because their world view is fanatical and they mentally live in some stone age, does not change the very obvious fact that in an overall perspective, the Arab states are on the defense here, not offense.

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Zenofex
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posted September 08, 2014 09:09 PM

If you take a look at some of those would-be-coloured pictures, you will notice that actually not only the Islamic terrorists are in the focus of this thing. You also get Russia, North Korea and Iran, some sort of Axis of Evil I guess. The world in general (including the Muslim countries) has little sympathy for terrorists but the rest is just pure hatemongering against the "Histories Greatest Nation"'s mainstream opponents on international level. And yeah - if you're Muslim, you gotta be terrorist. You'll recognize one by the terrorist-style beard (except if he's from Chechnya - then he might have smaller beard under the chin... crap, I have the same). That's the spirit!

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fred79
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posted September 08, 2014 10:30 PM
Edited by fred79 at 22:38, 08 Sep 2014.

i had a beard like that at one point. i must've been a terrorist at the time. it's true, though: the coloring book is pure, uncut propaganda. like i said, i don't see it having much staying power, outside of uninformed redneck populations. i say "redneck" populations(not excluding any other group of dumbasses, though), because i lived around them, and the coloring book displays how they actually think. which is why i don't have long, in-depth conversations with them.

as far as U.S. creating terrorism, it's true, the U.S. has a huge hand in creating people who want to attack us. that's going to keep happening, as long as the muslim culture as a whole isn't seen as worth being part of today's world(i see them more and more being backed into a corner, and the terrorism is a direct result of their culture constantly being under attack). it is also true, they have serious flaws in their culture(women's rights being a huge one), but there are bound to be huge flaws in any culture that is predominantly religious, and that take their religion wayyyyy too seriously. but that's the problem with religion: it INSISTS that you take it seriously.

the question is, how is muslim culture really any different from, say, capitalism, as far as destruction, slavery, and general disregard for the intricate designs of human and natural life? the way i see it, every group of people have issues. i don't see one being any better than the other, not in the least.

if a group in power keeps pushing the "little guy" into a corner, they're going to get a negative response, eventually. just like the rise of gangs in the U.S.  the rise of gangs in the U.S. were a direct response to the whites constantly pushing them around.

of course, religions have been fighting for dominance over one another since religion ever came about, so... it's not like THAT is anything new. what it all boils down to, is respect for one another's culture, homes, family, etc. when one of those things go wantonly disregarded, you'll have someone wanting some personal face-time with you.

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