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Naze
Known Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 12:18 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 15:53, 21 Sep 2014.
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VOKIALBG
Honorable
Legendary Hero
First in line
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posted September 13, 2014 12:20 PM |
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Edited by VOKIALBG at 12:21, 13 Sep 2014.
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Stevie said: 37 37 26 now.
It's really a hard vote, but not because the choices are equally good. But because it's confusing more than anything. First of all, people have forgotten that they don't vote only "creatures", they vote a playstyle. So those voting for Phoenixes or spamming Unicorn pics.. I kinda pity you. Do you realize that you're dragging Sylvan into a defensive line-up because of pure nostalgia?
Whatever. I think that the fault lies with the presentation tho. It's insufficient, and I understand that Limbic couldn't do anything about it because they didn't make any assets for it before the previous vote. Still, this is to me that sort of a situation where I have to take a decision based on some general lines. It's ok, I can cope with that, but I might as well regret it later.
That said, I voted for Fury. I don't really care about creatures as much as I do about the line-up's playstyle. Defensive is just out of the question for me. Why did I chose an agile faction if what they have to do is turtle? So Strength, no thank you. Balance? maybe. Yet I don't quite like the Phoenix/Moonix with Sylvan. But Fury is imo the true nature of Sylvan. Fast but frail damage dealers. Glass cannon.
But with the vote going in the direction of the first two options I might reconsider. Although it's a shame. Fury would've been best, and maybe with some pressure they might've tweaked the line-up a bit. Dryad and pixies? Whose smart idea was that. I never hated on Blade Dancers per se, on the contrary I thought the concept was quite cool, just their models being so feminine. And I think Moon Doe would be a nice breath of fresh air, so might as well give them a chance. Not gonna happen.
My only hope is the future insights coming next week as Marzhin said. If that won't make people change their minds and vote for Fury, then I'll change my vote to Balance.
All is atmosphere! They ruined enough for the sake of gameplay! VOTE STRENGTH! We dont need more magic bird creatures. 1 is enough.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted September 13, 2014 12:34 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 01:40, 18 Sep 2014.
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Naze said: From Russian forums, for some inspiration:
Thx for sharing
Okay if those are what creatures will look like... Definitely not Fury and I never said anything about giving Ashan a chance.
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Stormcaller
Famous Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 12:36 PM |
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Nobody should pick strength of the forest, defense is dwarves' territory god damn it. Go either for earth's balance or sylvan's fury.
It's like it's not enough they didn't make it in the game, and now their specialty is being overtaken as well.
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foxxxer
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 12:45 PM |
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Once again Ubi caused confusion among the fans with the insufficient info they gave. Now the vote is basically Unicorn vs. Phoenix not the line-ups as a whole and almost nobody asks about the new units - Root snake, Emerald warrior, Sun Deer and more or less the Dryad (the differences to the Pixie). There are no artworks; the abilities are vague and so on. Ubi at least could’ve made artworks for the new guys so the fans can judge what they want. Marzhin said that there aren’t artworks. But I’m pretty sure that at least they have some sketches otherwise what are they doing if don’t know how the creatures look already. So throw those sketches to the fans even if they are drawn with pencil on a paper. Photoshop fancy artworks are more or less advertisement/support of the game during the development. Marzhin also said that they are gonna make clearance about the descriptions of the units next week but we also need some ideas how they’re gonna look.
Imo the three proposals are broken. What is this blasphemy about the Unicorns. Along with Elf/Master Hunters, they have 5 out of 5 appearances in the series. In the Ubi’s desperate attempts to establish “unique” Ashan world they are willing to throw away iconic creatures. Unicorns should’ve been in at least 2 line-ups – THE STRENGTH OF THE FOREST (SF) and EARTH’S PERFECT BALANCE (EPB) replacing here the Emerald Warrior. Even if you look closely will understand that the EPB’s Elite tier (Druid/Treant/Emerald thingy) is more defensive than SF one (Druid/Unicorn/Emerald thingy).
I don’t mind the Phoenixes. It only depends how they will be implemented in the game – as a Moonix they can fit somehow. Also I’m pretty sure they’ll be different in their appearance compared to the Academy’s Magic Birds.
For now I’m leaning more toward Balanced version though I’m gonna miss the Unicorns a lot. It’s the lesser evil. Here we have a good alternative between the Champions, Treant is Elite where its place is imo and you can avoid the obligation for champion when you have Dryads (the Synergy ability).
The other two options look less satisfactory imo. In SF case we have 1 average movement range champion (the dragon) and one most likely slow (the Treant). Also if you build dragons the function the Dryad is pointless (according to the limited description). I’m not gonna go with this option only for the Unicorns. In the Fury case I see too many similar creatures (Pixie/Dryad and Blade Dancer/Emerald thingy). If the Emerald warrior doesn’t have a mount then it’ll be too similar in its appearance to the Dancers imo, even though the one has strike-and-return, the other causes multiple targets damage. Maybe the Pixies will have wings and the Dryad will be wingless but still…
The balanced version would’ve been something like that:
CORE
Hunter (range)
Root thingy (super-fast saboteur with poison damage and entangling ability)
Dryad – (a support unit for the Trants)
ELITE
Druid (range/cast)
Unicorn (semi-offensive, antimagic)
Treant (tank, healed by the Dryads,) – you avoid the obligation to be a champion here
Champion
Phoenix (big movement range, self-resurrection, but lower damage dealer and less defence (and/or hitpoint) compared to the dragons)
Green Dragon (tough damage dealer with average movement range and area of effect damage)
VOKIALBG said: VOTE STRENGTH! We dont need more magic bird creatures. 1 is enough.
I think we have to wait for the additional info (and possibly some sketches) and decide then what will be.
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ShardofTruth
Hired Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 12:50 PM |
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I'd really like the Phoenix to become a regular unit again (even if it's the moonix) but I'm also bugged by the fact that then we would have two blue birds as champions units.
So either put the phoenix in the academy roster (which would make more sense lore-wise) or let us also vote for the academy line-up.
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JeremiahEmo
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 12:50 PM |
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if that's what emerald knight looks like then Fury all the way for me.
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Danny
Famous Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 12:53 PM |
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Even though I like the artwork for Sylanna, it's a cop out to have a Green Dragon looking like that, they already pulled this off with Malassa/Black Dragon and another retcon since H5 that they are wingless, just like they are retconning Rakshasas, I'm not against Ashan but these things are just silly.
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 12:54 PM |
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Edited by RMZ1989 at 12:55, 13 Sep 2014.
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ShardofTruth said: I'd really like the Phoenix to become a regular unit again (even if it's the moonix) but I'm also bugged by the fact that then we would have two blue birds as champions units.
So either put the phoenix in the academy roster (which would make more sense lore-wise) or let us also vote for the academy line-up.
We might even have three (blue)birds as champions as I heard that Thunderbirds are making a comeback as Stronghold champions. Now that would be pathetic...
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 12:55 PM |
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I'm slightly torn. On the other hand the strategy of Strength of the Forest seems most appealing + it has Unicorns as many has stated. Earths perfect balance could be a versatile line-up and I want some color "splashed" into a faction so Phoenix could be a very welcome addition to otherwise mono-green faction. I really hope they don't do the stupid color coding of H6...
I am favoring Strenght of Forest atm, because it gets me exited about the faction for some reason.
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JeremiahEmo
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 01:03 PM |
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Galaad said:
JeremiahEmo said: if that's what emerald knight looks like then Fury all the way for me.
With gaydancers and wtf is this deer lol
Nah. I don't think they'll make them gaydancers this time around. That's the biggest criticism blade dancers got from h5.
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Kronos1000
Promising
Supreme Hero
Fryslân Boppe
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posted September 13, 2014 01:06 PM |
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People, I don't think these are real. I don't know where the art for the new creatures come from, but most of the others come from Heroes 5 and the dragon is just the Sylanna artwork. (With the exception of the Treant of course, because it was posted on the website)
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Nocturnal
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 01:09 PM |
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exodustpa said: Have to agree with jeremiah on the H5 blade dancers being god damn sissy, either u have manlier ones or just make them female :X
My favourite video game character being Vega from SF series, I'm totally against this "effeminate and strong man" hate. Whic of course is traced to real life thingies, but I won't get into that OSM snow. Make Blade Dancers even more effeminate I say. We'll have enough brutes in the game. Actually we have a whole faction of brutes AKA Stronghold. Play them then, not Sylvan.
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Stormcaller
Famous Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 01:10 PM |
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All Elves are sissies. You voted for them, now play with them.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted September 13, 2014 01:17 PM |
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Kronos1000 said: People, I don't think these are real. I don't know where the art for the new creatures come from, but most of the others come from Heroes 5 and the dragon is just the Sylanna artwork. (With the exception of the Treant of course, because it was posted on the website)
The new artwork is actually very close to realy. It's taken from the Lore book Ubi produced back at the tim of H6. The rest is as you know H5 artwork, since this s the only lead we have
Marzhin already stated that Emerald dragons will be wing-less and so it is not unreasonable to extimate that they will have some similarities to the Sylana artwork.
Even the treant, the only true artwork we got sofar is taken from the lore book.
Only the python is not part of ubies art portfolio
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VOKIALBG
Honorable
Legendary Hero
First in line
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posted September 13, 2014 01:18 PM |
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Edited by VOKIALBG at 13:21, 13 Sep 2014.
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And do you not that the whole think is WoW copy? Where else you have that strong connection between elves and emeralds?
Somehow the snakes are not in place in Sylvan. Sylvan must be somehow peaceful and etc. The snakes just fit more evil town. Inferno have the snake as symbol along with the pentagram.
EDIT: 38%-36%-28%! Keep voting! Unicorns are now leading!
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red_flag
Known Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 01:19 PM |
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Edited by red_flag at 13:28, 13 Sep 2014.
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Kronos1000 said: People, I don't think these are real. I don't know where the art for the new creatures come from, but most of the others come from Heroes 5 and the dragon is just the Sylanna artwork. (With the exception of the Treant of course, because it was posted on the website)
Guys, it's just speculation based on some artworks from Heroes 5, Ashan Compendium and some more not related.
This is made for the easely visual understanding of Silvan's line-up conceptions. Of course it's can't be totaly matched with official conception, that i hope we will see on next week, but makes some impression.
Actually the biggest uncertainty with the Emerald warrior/Emerald knight concept-art...
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 01:19 PM |
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Hmmm if Emerald Dragon is not a flyer then Phoenix makes more sense!
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Nocturnal
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 01:24 PM |
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Stormcaller said: All Elves are sissies. You voted for them, now play with them.
I'll do that gladly. I love sissies.
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Lexxan
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
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posted September 13, 2014 01:27 PM |
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Having the public vote on a line-up is incredibly stupid, like... just make one yourself for heaven's sake.
STRENGTH OF THE FOREST MUST WIN!!!!
Seriously, if you snows rob me of my precious unicorns, there will be riots.
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