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jhb
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posted September 21, 2014 10:26 PM |
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Edited by jhb at 22:58, 21 Sep 2014.
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Galaad said:
Edit : when I say this voting drives us crazy !
agree lol
I just want this voting ends to see what they will do next.
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@FuChris
fuChris said:
Lets hope for another vote.
If small changes to the elves cause this kind of havoc than I can't wait to see the fanrage the DeathKnight-Wight-Lich-Lamassu-Mummy-Vampire rollercoaster is gonna unleash
ROFL! You're right.
Edit2: Man, after this, I think people will start to respect the developers more...
It's already very hard to please a "majority" of fans, imagine to try to please a big crowd of customers AND the fans.
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fuChris
Promising
Supreme Hero
Master to the Speed of Light
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posted September 21, 2014 10:32 PM |
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jhb said:
Galaad said:
Edit : when I say this voting drives us crazy !
agree lol
I just want this voting ends to see what they will do next.
Lets hope for another vote.
If small changes to the elves cause this kind of havoc than I can't wait to see the fanrage the DeathKnight-Wight-Lich-Lamassu-Mummy-Vampire rollercoaster is gonna unleash
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted September 21, 2014 10:33 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 22:36, 21 Sep 2014.
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Stevie said: @Blob2: My fellow Elven brother. I congratulate you for your vote for Fury. I welcome you amongst us. Let us learn together the totally awesome martial art of the blade dance. And slice bread perfectly with our swords
I guess to each his own...
Hmm, maybe a Sun Deer/Blade Dancer combo as a unit Face the flurry of Blades and Antlers, and be amazed by the blinding flash of the creatures fur (BD dark glasses included)!
PS: Though if I smell a chance for Unicorns I will go back to Strength like the double-crosser that I am
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted September 21, 2014 11:05 PM |
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fuChris said:
If small changes to the elves cause this kind of havoc than I can't wait to see the fanrage the DeathKnight-Wight-Lich-Lamassu-Mummy-Vampire rollercoaster is gonna unleash
No, no, no! If they will do the voting for Necropolis this will be a bloodbath, so no, Ubi, no!
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 22, 2014 12:46 AM |
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Pawek_13 said:
fuChris said:
If small changes to the elves cause this kind of havoc than I can't wait to see the fanrage the DeathKnight-Wight-Lich-Lamassu-Mummy-Vampire rollercoaster is gonna unleash
No, no, no! If they will do the voting for Necropolis this will be a bloodbath, so no, Ubi, no!
I might be mistaking, but I think that the first 4 factions introduced prior to voting have their line-ups already made. I think the voting will mostly concern the other 2 remaining factions and maybe some other features, dunno.
But if we indeed get a line-up vote for Necropolis... WW3. There will be no fanbase left to purchase the game.
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted September 22, 2014 01:23 AM |
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Stevie said:
Pawek_13 said:
fuChris said:
If small changes to the elves cause this kind of havoc than I can't wait to see the fanrage the DeathKnight-Wight-Lich-Lamassu-Mummy-Vampire rollercoaster is gonna unleash
No, no, no! If they will do the voting for Necropolis this will be a bloodbath, so no, Ubi, no!
I might be mistaking, but I think that the first 4 factions introduced prior to voting have their line-ups already made. I think the voting will mostly concern the other 2 remaining factions and maybe some other features, dunno.
But if we indeed get a line-up vote for Necropolis... WW3. There will be no fanbase left to purchase the game.
Yeah, Marzhin already said that there won't be any voting for Stronghold, and I expect the same for Necropolis.
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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
Fear me..
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posted September 22, 2014 04:13 AM |
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Edited by DarkLord at 04:14, 22 Sep 2014.
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ooi no voting for necropolis!!! pretty please!
otherwise i will end up with heart attack! ....
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jackson
Known Hero
Random Spirit Lover
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posted September 22, 2014 04:31 AM |
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Elvin said:
Valen-Teen said: Oh, yeah, gay dancers are better than blue chickens
Similarly, this is not cool. Comments like this can be offensive to a part of the posters here, whether they are gay or not. Please avoid such terms.
Thank you for standing up to this and thank you for also including that one doesn't have to be gay to find such comments offensive.
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blizzardboy
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Nerf Herder
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posted September 22, 2014 04:42 AM |
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The tentative artwork for the Bladedancers, I have to admit, is quite good. I'm kind of hypocritical in saying this because I've played so many dual-wielders in fantasy games over the years (I'm just attracted to the speed of the carnage) but I never liked them too much in the Heroes universe. I just prefer units to be more "real" in their fighting style, and let's be real here: dual wielders aren't a standard unit in any army. I would just prefer an elf with a large spear or a sword & bone shield, etc. They can add some kind of trapper/ranger ability to make them distinct from a human sword & board. Or they can be content with an archer and a druid and then set aside the rest for other mythological creatures.
Mind you, this squirrel still voted Fury. The main reason is that those magic deer just sucked me right in, but I'm also happy enough with treants on top. I think a motherloving living, fighting tree is perfectly acceptable for a champion unit, even if treants/dendroids haven't been utilized as top tier units in the past. Has anyone went outside and looked at a fully grown tree lately? Yeah. They'll do fine.
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EPICUSDOOMICUS
Known Hero
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posted September 22, 2014 08:54 AM |
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DarkLord said: ooi no voting for necropolis!!! pretty please!
otherwise i will end up with heart attack! ....
makes 2 of us
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted September 22, 2014 10:03 AM |
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fate weaver vs bone dragon
i so want this voting to end. i'd rather have a poll for a faction and not a line up again.
P.S. i'm glad we are all adults and in the end we calm down.
faith restored.
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted September 22, 2014 10:06 AM |
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ChrisD1 said: P.S. i'm glad we are all adults and in the end we calm down.
faith restored.
We still have several days to go. Hold on to that faith.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted September 22, 2014 10:31 AM |
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War-overlord said:
ChrisD1 said: P.S. i'm glad we are all adults and in the end we calm down.
faith restored.
We still have several days to go. Hold on to that faith.
it's funny how we are all sober now and in those three days we will be out for blood! can you imagine all of us in a big room discussing the line ups?
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted September 22, 2014 10:34 AM |
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ChrisD1 said: it's funny how we are all sober now and in those three days we will be out for blood! can you imagine all of us in a big room discussing the line ups?
Not without a proper moderator chairing the discussion. Without one, everyone would be shouting and the cacophony would horrible and drowning out every coherent thought.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted September 22, 2014 10:40 AM |
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Edited by ChrisD1 at 10:42, 22 Sep 2014.
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War-overlord said:
ChrisD1 said: it's funny how we are all sober now and in those three days we will be out for blood! can you imagine all of us in a big room discussing the line ups?
Not without a proper moderator chairing the discussion. Without one, everyone would be shouting and the cacophony would horrible and drowning out every coherent thought.
in this case the moderator should be a really large person with high defense and HP...
btw i've been meaning to tell you that you needn't go anxious about the unicorns. i want fury to win with all my heart,but i have a feeling balance wil go to strength the last day. you should be happy!(btw strength is my second best)
i just don't understand why balance went over to strength when they were actually winning.
also balance's numbers are still high enough and in the end we might see nor uniconrs neither deers
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted September 22, 2014 10:50 AM |
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ChrisD1 said: in this case the moderator should be a really large person with high defense and HP...
Plus a loud voice, much authority and something to back that authority up with.
ChrisD1 said:
btw i've been meaning to tell you that you needn't go anxious about the unicorns. i want fury to win with all my heart,but i have a feeling balance wil go to strength the last day. you should be happy!(btw strength is my second best)
i just don't understand why balance went over to strength when they were actually winning.
also balance's numbers are still high enough and in the end we might see nor uniconrs neither deers
I dunno. I do indeed suspect/hope that either balance or strength will pull through in the end, due to many switching their vote to one or the other. The dislike of fury is rabid enough to warant that. Which one it's gonna be, I cannot tell. But at the very least, for my peace of mind, there is always the possibility of getting the Emerald Knight mounted on something.
The like of balance is much due to the phoenix I suspect, which was a semi-staple in ye olden days. It was part of the line-up in Heroes I, II and IV. It doesn't have the seniority that the Unicorn or the Elven Archer have, heck not even the seniority that Druids and Sprites have, but some people focus on champions. And for what it is worth, the Phoenix always was great value for money in ye olden days.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 22, 2014 10:53 AM |
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War-overlord said:
Unicorns are something different. Unicorns are animals that are sacred to a God. In most cases Sylanna, in case of the Pristine Unicorn Elrath. As divine creatures, they act to the whim and guidance of their parton-God. Therefor the one to hold accountable to for the action of a Unicorn is their God.
Unless you somehow prove permanent divine guidance there is no reason for us to believe that. It does not follow as a necessary conclusion from being sacred to a God, which is not even an active action taken by the Unicorn. It can well be interpreted as the God considering it sacred, in which case the whole argument falls apart.
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Therefor, I conclude, that it is not impossible for a Root Snake to be a plant. And untill I get confirmation that it is not, I choose to believe it is a plant.
That comes flying in the face of several other factors.
First, in the context of art, the Snake has an organic head. It has teeth, it has eyes, it has nostrils, can bite and constrict its prey which I suspect is not a random habbit but for survival which means he eats and has a metabolism. So it's a Snake.
Secondly, I have not claimed that motor functions prove or disprove biological composition, so your Treant example is irrelevant.
Thirdly, I beg to differ that the name is only based on behavior. It has clear biological basis.
I think that this creature is fairly simple to understand. It's a hybrid, half animal half plant, half Snake half Root. If you chose to disregard it's animal aspect for the sake of your argument of defending the Unicorn, that's just fine by me. You can believe it's Slithering Spaghetti as far as I'm concerned. But you're clearly on the wrong side of things.
Sorry for the late reply. Believe me, I'm tired.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted September 22, 2014 10:57 AM |
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War-overlord said:
I dunno. I do indeed suspect/hope that either balance or strength will pull through in the end, due to many switching their vote to one or the other. The dislike of fury is rabid enough to warant that. Which one it's gonna be, I cannot tell. But at the very least, for my peace of mind, there is always the possibility of getting the Emerald Knight mounted on something.
The like of balance is much due to the phoenix I suspect, which was a semi-staple in ye olden days. It was part of the line-up in Heroes I, II and IV. It doesn't have the seniority that the Unicorn or the Elven Archer have, heck not even the seniority that Druids and Sprites have, but some people focus on champions. And for what it is worth, the Phoenix always was great value for money in ye olden days.
exactly that! if we were still in enroth hell i would go for balance too! but my discomfort for the phoenix comes third. first comes my love for the treant as a champion, i thought this poor guy was always underrated:/
and sedond my curiosity about deers and elite blade dancers. what will deers too? will they be able to hop obstacles like in CoH?
but i really think that strength is more secure than fury.
Also i really really think that ubisoft does orchestrate the polls a little.
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jhb
Famous Hero
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posted September 22, 2014 11:11 AM |
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Good morning, gentlemen.
ChrisD1 said:
btw i've been meaning to tell you that you needn't go anxious about the unicorns. i want fury to win with all my heart,but i have a feeling balance wil go to strength the last day. you should be happy!(btw strength is my second best)
i just don't understand why balance went over to strength when they were actually winning.
also balance's numbers are still high enough and in the end we might see nor uniconrs neither deers
My hypothesis is that, the Strength people lost their faith too soon. I'm not sure, but I saw so much balance propaganda there, like:
Strength, come to balance! (because you can't win)
That's why I think people should the vote for what they like most.
But I agree with Chris here, things might change a lot in the last day.
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted September 22, 2014 11:28 AM |
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Stevie said:
Unless you somehow prove permanent divine guidance there is no reason for us to believe that. It does not follow as a necessary conclusion from being sacred to a God, which is not even an active action taken by the Unicorn. It can well be interpreted as the God considering it sacred, in which case the whole argument falls apart.
Then still, by it's, even supposed, divine nature, it is above base animals.
And as further proof of the Divine Nature, or at the very least, proof of the Unicorn being more then simply a base animal, I give you this excerpt from the compendium, page 119.
Quote: ...Unicorns from scared groves, all join the Elves willingly in their battles. Tied to the Elves and beholden to Sylanna, they instinctively appear when and where they are needed.
This shows that, Unicorns, as wel as the other creatures spoken of, join the Elves in war by free will. Which in turn, leads us to believe that they have the intellectual capacities to make such decisions. Further more, by being at the very least beholden to the God Sylanna, shows that they are, like the sentient races, capable of having such interaction with the gods. And as a further, yet lesser, argument. The instinctive appearing where and when needed, could be very well due to divine guidance.
Stevie said: First, in the context of art, the Snake has an organic head. It has teeth, it has eyes, it has nostrils, can bite and constrict its prey which I suspect is not a random habbit but for survival which means he eats and has a metabolism. So it's a Snake.
Carnivorous plants have teeth and need to capture and feed off of prey. Carnivorous plants have a metabolism, due to them digesting their prey. So neither it's need to feed nor it's teeth, are proof it is not a plant. The eyes and nostrills, may very well be due to it's non-sedentary lifestyle. If it needs to go about to find prey, it needs ways to locate it. Furthermore, Treants have eyes as well. And unless you are willing to question the conception that Treants are plants, eyes are no proof of it not being a plant as well.
Plus, Heroes, and in fact Sylvan, has a bit of a history with fielding actively hunting carnivorous plants, in the form of the Waspwort
Stevie said: Secondly, I have not claimed that motor functions prove or disprove biological composition, so your Treant example is irrelevant.
Consider this a preemptive argument. And it is in fact an argument by negation.
Stevie said: Thirdly, I beg to differ that the name is only based on behavior. It has clear biological basis.
Based on what?
Stevie said: I think that this creature is fairly simple to understand. It's a hybrid, half animal half plant, half Snake half Root. If you chose to disregard it's animal aspect for the sake of your argument of defending the Unicorn, that's just fine by me.
If this were the case, and the Root Snake is indeed a plant-animalhybrid, then by it's partially plant nature, it has more justification of being in the Sylvan line-up then if it were a base animal.
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