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Fauch
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posted October 16, 2014 02:55 PM |
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fred79 said:
personally, i say, let plagues run their course. as stevie said, one disease to fight a bigger disease. even if it was possibly invented by humans, as a "cure" for overpopulation; it should run it's course. it's high time something like this came along, regardless of how it came to be.
the only issue i have with this possible culling, is that rich people will most likely survive any such deadly outbreak. and that isn't right. it should be across the board, in my opinion.
wow that's cold. also depopulation seems to happen mostly in africa, which is far from being overpopulated.
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Doomforge
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posted October 16, 2014 02:59 PM |
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I don't get this conspiracy stuff at all. What kind of profit can you get from a cure for Ebola exactly? how many people get ill in civilized countries so that they can buy your stuff? Because last I checked, every person getting Ebola in a civilized country gets into the news. So we're looking at what, 100, maybe 200 sick people every year at best? Compared to the effort, both financial and scientific, needed to develop such a cure, it seems a waste of time and they are pretty much doing it pro publico bono instead of developing another painkiller drug (or rather the same as 10 others, just with a different name) that's bound to sell in metric tons every day. Or releasing anything containing codeine to any of eastern piss-poor countries so that junkies can produce their home made drugs off it. Now that's money grubbing.
Vaccination isn't in the same boat exactly, but it isn't obligatory, and it would take joint efforts from many many independent groups (like - not just pharmacy giants, but also all politicians, police, all kinds of gov' agencies and even the army, lol) to pull this off on a national scale, and way more on global scale. It just isn't doable, unless you believe in NWO and that sort of crap.
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posted October 16, 2014 03:11 PM |
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I believe that the Pharmaceutics made a pretty penny when they sold bird flu vaccines to our Government. Didn't even mattered what happened after that.
And as I already said, I'm not placing any blame on anyone. Can you at least understand that much people?
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Doomforge
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posted October 16, 2014 03:28 PM |
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Vaccination was voluntary. If government guys overrated the scale of the problem and bought a ton of those (useless) vaccines, is this really some sort of conspiracy, or just (like usual) the dumbness of politics? 
Pooland also got that stuff and it turned out to be useless, but that's the price we pay for incompetent government.
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kipshasz
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posted October 16, 2014 04:26 PM |
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the whole thing is just bloated out. same panic was with the <insert animal type/name here> flus, smallpox in an envelope and other crap.
Turn off the TV and give it away to electronics recyclers.
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fred79
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posted October 16, 2014 06:01 PM |
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Fauch said:
wow that's cold.
as opposed to continuing overpopulation and the future effects it will have? it's actually caring, when you think about the big picture. humans do the same thing to animals that are in overabundance, when they're destroying the environment/eating all the food/starving out other species/reproducing like a virus.
it's called balance, and it's a natural thing. if ebola becomes a real problem for masses of humans, it will be a real(if only relatively temporary)solution to a MUCH larger issue; which is mostly uncaring, overpopulating, destructive humans.
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posted October 16, 2014 06:07 PM |
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I am surprised that it was Corribus who opened this thread. You should know how small scale Ebola actually is. It's got under 10000 cases so far.
Shouldn't you be far more concerned with traffic safety or something? 
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fred79
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posted October 16, 2014 06:15 PM |
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the potential of ebola is what makes it important. 
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posted October 16, 2014 08:32 PM |
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Even if ebola spreads on a level that is critical, it wont be on a depopulating scale to "balance" the Earth as you suggest. There are more than 7 billion people on this planet, just imagine the magnitude of alertness and the precautions people will take, if only 10 million die.
But for the sake of argument, let's say half the people on Earth perished because of ebola, the population will quickly multiply again in a few hundred years. On an evolutionary basis, that's like minutes, you can see a graphic displaying how even mass extinctions take millions of years from this link.
About 1/3 of Europeans died during the spread of plague in a few hundred years and those were medieval times when people didn't even know germs exist. Just look at the population of those days and compare it with today:
Humans are too widely spread around to be wiped out by a disease, no matter how contagious it is. If (when) we go extinct, it will most probably be because of something much more cosmical like the sun dying or if we travel to other planets, universe growing colder to a freezing level etc..
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JoonasTo
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posted October 16, 2014 09:22 PM |
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Stevie
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posted October 16, 2014 10:16 PM |
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Neraus
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posted October 16, 2014 10:30 PM |
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Or Fatima's secrets...
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kipshasz
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posted October 16, 2014 11:21 PM |
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Or goverment imbeciles just launching nukes at each other for one of the following reasons:
* Threat of "terrorism"
* Fight over fossil fuels
* dispute over nuclear fuels
* struggle to control the major dope industries
* squabble over precious metals/gems/rare earth minerals
I'm kinda disappointed that the thread was opened by our old chap Cor here. He seemed just to smart to fall to another panic spread by the media.
It'll be like all the bird/swine flu panic, trust me.
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fred79
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posted October 17, 2014 12:21 AM |
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i wonder if it'll ever become airborne. that might change the positive outlook on the dangers of ebola in a hurry.
of course, if terrorists could ever get their hands on some competent scientists, they could also weaponize it.
just some food for thought, for all you glass-half-full guys. 
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Fauch
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posted October 17, 2014 12:30 AM |
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Edited by Fauch at 00:30, 17 Oct 2014.
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they don't even need to send nukes when you see how they deal with terrorism. fight it with one hand, support it with the other one.
also, how do you deal with fanatics in europe? just send them to middle east, that's fine if they cause trouble, as long as it is far away...
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posted October 17, 2014 12:36 AM |
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kipshasz said:
I'm kinda disappointed that the thread was opened by our old chap Cor here. He seemed just to smart to fall to another panic spread by the media.
I didn't say I was falling to panic. I do think any new viral disease is concerning, and all signs are that are hospitals and national disease control infrastructure is not equipped to deal with a real epidemic. I also don't think Ebola is something to dismiss out of hand. It's a serious lethal illness that thankfully is not (yet) as transmissible as some other serious lethal illnesses that have killed millions in the past.
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fred79
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posted October 17, 2014 01:09 AM |
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exactly. there's no point in really worrying(because if it goes viral(lol) there isn't much people could do about it. but it is something to keep an eye on. the potential for something like this is quite catastrophic.
i wonder, how the world as it is now, would deal with such a thing. humanity has coasted on easy-street for a long time, and the ease with which humanity travels nowadays, the freedoms that people have now, and the ease with which something like this could spread(especially if it goes airborne)...
back when the bubonic plague was a thing, they didn't have airports that could cause a disease to jump from one continent to several in only a DAY. this many people didn't exist in nearly every corner of the world, either.
and think, of all the trade that happens around the world. all those people, packaging all that food, and other things you would ingest without wondering if it is really safe or not. just one "mistake"...
really, the potential for a thing like this, in this day and age, is catastrophic.
not that you could really do anything about it. in the very least, it will bring the world of humanity to a near-grinding halt, while something like this runs it's course.
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posted October 17, 2014 06:12 AM |
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Corribus said:
...and all signs are that are hospitals and national disease control infrastructure is not equipped to deal with a real epidemic. I also don't think Ebola is something to dismiss out of hand...
I share the same view. What bothers me is that major countries including the U.S. have done little to fight the Ebola "where it IS." Weeks and Months go by and the outbreak is left to "spread" while some of the African Government heads are saying; "We're in trouble folks, we're near collapse."
What has the U.S.done? Brought the crap here so a Drug Company could test a cure. Does every freaking thing have to be motivated by a business now? Where the heck is common sense? Why not test it THERE. And now, as Cor pointed out; the handling of the 3rd or 4th? U.S case wasn't handled well at all.
For me personally it's not the Ebola, it wouldn't take that much to take my butt out, it's the lack of action and organization that I find unnerving.
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Doomforge
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posted October 17, 2014 10:42 AM |
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Corribus said:
I didn't say I was falling to panic. I do think any new viral disease is concerning, and all signs are that are hospitals and national disease control infrastructure is not equipped to deal with a real epidemic. I also don't think Ebola is something to dismiss out of hand. It's a serious lethal illness that thankfully is not (yet) as transmissible as some other serious lethal illnesses that have killed millions in the past.
I'd rather worry about the drug-immune superbacteria. Ebola is hard to catch if you live in a civilized place, and there's a vaccine on the way. The "middle finger to antibiotics" bacteria on the other hand can cause way more problems especially for the civilized world.
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markkur
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posted October 17, 2014 12:44 PM |
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Agreed but doesn't that make the point? If a lesser cannot be contained...maybe much better efforts are needed no matter what?
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