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Danny
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posted November 09, 2014 09:01 PM |
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^What is the issue in having both a core and an elite shooter? Most H6 factions were like that already, except Haven & Dungeon.
The lack of flyers are more alarming, Haven and Dungeon only have a flyer in the Champion level, Sylvan has two core flyers. Academy is likely to have 4, I guess Necropolis will be the other flyer faction.
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted November 09, 2014 09:28 PM |
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I guess fliers are scarce because of the flanking system - too easy to exploit perhaps.
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blizzardboy
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posted November 10, 2014 12:00 AM |
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2 shooters per faction has been about average since H3 (a handful of them have even had 3) If a faction has 1 shooter they often have extra mobility to compensate.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
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On the Other Side!
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posted November 10, 2014 12:22 AM |
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and then you have Fortress 
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blizzardboy
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Nerf Herder
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posted November 10, 2014 02:49 AM |
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Yes. H3 Fortress has an iguana with a bow and then a bunch of swamp monsters that eat at McDonald's 3 times a day, but they're on the far end of the spectrum. 7 out of 9 H3 factions either have 2 or more shooters or good mobility, and I think every faction in H4 and beyond is that way too.
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Protolisk
Promising
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posted November 10, 2014 03:52 AM |
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Storm-Giant said:
and then you have Fortress
There was also H3 Necro. And H4 Necro, if I'm right.
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natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted November 10, 2014 07:09 AM |
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Yes, Danny, you were the only one who understood me correctly. It will be more interesting if a faction has 1 core shooter only or 2 shooters but in core creatures.
It is boring for all of them to have 1 core and 1 elite except Academy which will have Titans as shooters most probably.
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted November 10, 2014 07:20 AM |
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natalka said:
Yes, Danny, you were the only one who understood me correctly. It will be more interesting if a faction has 1 core shooter only or 2 shooters but in core creatures.
It is boring for all of them to have 1 core and 1 elite except Academy which will have Titans as shooters most probably.
I've seen Titans shooting some kind of energy beam in demo battles, so it's pretty much confirmed at this point.
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blizzardboy
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posted November 10, 2014 07:56 AM |
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natalka said:
Yes, Danny, you were the only one who understood me correctly. It will be more interesting if a faction has 1 core shooter only or 2 shooters but in core creatures.
It is boring for all of them to have 1 core and 1 elite except Academy which will have Titans as shooters most probably.
That's because they're creating a sense of balance as you level up your town. You don't get 2 or 3 shooters at the very beginning as core creatures. You have a core shooter and an elite shooter, and since there's flexibility in the order of building, you can still get 2 shooters fairly quickly (or maybe a different unit if you want, such as a spellcaster or saboteur). You no longer have a distinct tier 1-7, but there are still going to be certain core and elite creature dwellings that are more difficult to purchase early than others.
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natalka
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posted November 10, 2014 10:05 AM |
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Who said 2 shooters from the beginning is imbalanced?! They are creating sense of boredom by creating a core and elite shooter in every faction. In the end they will play the same in creeping at least.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted November 10, 2014 10:39 AM |
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natalka said:
Who said 2 shooters from the beginning is imbalanced?! They are creating sense of boredom by creating a core and elite shooter in every faction. In the end they will play the same in creeping at least.
+1 for me. The fact tha H6 dungeon had all their shooters at core level made the faction somewhat unique
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JollyJoker
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posted November 10, 2014 11:10 AM |
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Not bothering to vote. Don't care for both line-ups. Golems in Dungeon? Unicorns? Vampire Hydras? Minotaurs with no retaliation and preemptive strike?
As bad as Sylvan line-up with elite dancers, Bambi, and Cores that need a specific champion.
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blizzardboy
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Nerf Herder
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posted November 11, 2014 01:54 AM |
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natalka said:
Who said 2 shooters from the beginning is imbalanced?! They are creating sense of boredom by creating a core and elite shooter in every faction. In the end they will play the same in creeping at least.
No that's not necessarily true. In H6 you'll notice that there are certain core and elite creature dwellings with each faction that are easier to get than others, and you could just buy an elite dwelling while neglecting a core. The core/elite/champion system is somewhat more flexible in that respect so you can have multiple army options for creeping.
Of course, one of the big justified criticisms of H6 in general was that creeping was so much easier. Necro epitomized this to an embarrassing degree but it was easier for every faction. Hopefully H7 will acknowledge this error and return closer to the H3-5 format.
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RMZ1989
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posted November 11, 2014 10:42 AM |
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blizzardboy said:
natalka said:
Who said 2 shooters from the beginning is imbalanced?! They are creating sense of boredom by creating a core and elite shooter in every faction. In the end they will play the same in creeping at least.
No that's not necessarily true. In H6 you'll notice that there are certain core and elite creature dwellings with each faction that are easier to get than others, and you could just buy an elite dwelling while neglecting a core. The core/elite/champion system is somewhat more flexible in that respect so you can have multiple army options for creeping.
Of course, one of the big justified criticisms of H6 in general was that creeping was so much easier. Necro epitomized this to an embarrassing degree but it was easier for every faction. Hopefully H7 will acknowledge this error and return closer to the H3-5 format.
Yeah, all because of stupid resurrection spells, creature and faction abilities.
Every faction got hands on something, regeneration/heal/drain life etc. and every faction had some sort of healer(Sisters/Specters).
And about Necro, well, with Regeneration, Necromancy and Specters healing you could attack a stack of units that would usually be 3x stronger than you and it would be shocking if you lose a few units. 
Yeah, embarrassing is great word here.
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Pawek_13
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Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted November 11, 2014 11:01 AM |
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Edited by Pawek_13 at 11:05, 11 Nov 2014.
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blizzardboy said:
Hopefully H7 will acknowledge this error and return closer to the H3-5 format.
It was already stated that Necromancy will be Necromancy, not a new iteration of spell "Raise Undead".
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supertommy
Known Hero
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posted November 11, 2014 09:12 PM |
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Blade up 3% just today. Cheating again? If so, I don't see why people bother, since they'll be counting them over again.
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jeremiahemo
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted November 11, 2014 11:38 PM |
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^ wtf?! so everytime Blade increases a few percentage, it's cheating? What kind of logic is that?
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supertommy
Known Hero
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posted November 12, 2014 12:17 AM |
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No, go wtf-ing somewhere else. It's been standing still for 5 days, and today in about 6 hours it has gained 3%. I find it hard to believe.
Edit: Oh, look. As we speak, 4% since this morning.
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Hermes
Famous Hero
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posted November 12, 2014 12:19 AM |
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Maybe it's Faces who stopped their cheating have hence Blade increase
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Stormcaller
Famous Hero
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posted November 12, 2014 12:41 AM |
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What fascinates me is that people actually think cheating will accomplish something.
Some people just can't be helped.
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