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Heroes Community > Heroes 7 - Falcon's Last Flight > Thread: Medusa Vs. Matriarch
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Hired Hero
posted November 07, 2014 06:42 PM

Poll Question:
Medusa Vs. Matriarch

Hello Heroes

While reading the comments to Dunegon line-up vote, I figured out there are 2 groups of people :

- 1st group of people that loves the return of Medusas to Dungeon, mostly because H3 nostalgia

- 2nd group of people that says Medusas now lives in Sanctuary and it should stay there, and they prefer Shadow Witches/Matriarchs over the Medusas

I am interested which unit is more popular, so my question is, Do you prefer Medusas or Matriarch as a Dungeon unit ?

(I know this vote will not change anything in H7, I was want to know)

Responses:
I prefer Shadow Witch/ Shadow Matriarch
I prefer Medusa
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Storm-Giant
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posted November 07, 2014 06:44 PM

Where's the "Why not both?" option?
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alcibiades
alcibiades


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posted November 07, 2014 06:47 PM

I liked the Matriarch concept to begin with (minus the SM looks), so that's where I'm inclined. And that's without mentioning the problem of having a Naga (water creature) in a Dungeon ...
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Hired Hero
posted November 07, 2014 06:51 PM

I think Medusa is very nice for Dungeon because is big manipulator (it takes enemy unit out of game) but if there will be Sanctuary in DLC i think is good idea to move them from Dungeon to Sanctuar a put Matriarch in Dungeon for exchange.
But storm-giant I agree both will be best

(my choice is matriarch but i dont vote)

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Protolisk
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posted November 07, 2014 06:55 PM

While I don't entirely like the idea of Naga in Dungeon, why not put them there? People were annoyed that each faction is rather homogenous in species and that a faction was composed of a single faction plus periphery units, which made it strange when a Human hero controlled the military entirely composed of a different specie *cough*H6*cough*. Having more mixed factions makes them just that: Factions, not races.

And further more, I always thought that having a unit that literally means "leader" being a units that is lead around by the masses by a sole person ahead of the , the Hero, a little misleading. I'd think that the Matriarch should be a hero class themselves, as I don't feel there should be too many of them.

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Storm-Giant
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posted November 07, 2014 06:57 PM

Protolisk said:
While I don't entirely like the idea of Naga in Dungeon, why not put them there? People were annoyed that each faction is rather homogenous in species and that a faction was composed of a single faction plus periphery units, which made it strange when a Human hero controlled the military entirely composed of a different specie *cough*H6*cough*. Having more mixed factions makes them just that: Factions, not races.

I agree with this post so much. I don't get the fuss of having some 'corrupted' Naga in Dungeon, duh.
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Jiriki9
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posted November 07, 2014 06:58 PM

I go for Medusa, probably mainly because the Shadow Matriarchs were not my fav unit in H5.

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Danny
Danny


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posted November 07, 2014 07:01 PM

Shadow Witch/Matriarch all the way.

The Medusa is a lazy concept and I can't believe the devs even considered this, let alone it's about to be voted into the game! Looks like they reached the limits of the Ashan concept by the 3rd Heroes game already (see also rotating the same factions)...

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Protolisk
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posted November 07, 2014 07:11 PM

Danny said:
Shadow Witch/Matriarch all the way.

The Medusa is a lazy concept and I can't believe the devs even considered this, let alone it's about to be voted into the game! Looks like they reached the limits of the Ashan concept by the 3rd Heroes game already (see also rotating the same factions)...


You are right. It's not like 3DO had to double back on their setting after their third Heroes game and then decided to detonate a planet, and then reset their factions back to the factions they had in their second game (knight=life, barbarian=might, wizard=order, necromancer=death, sorceress = nature, warlock=asylum) which had the same kinds of units from those games, along with having to shove 3 units from a different race into another to keep it stable (infernopolis) thus keeping pretty much the same factions and trashing the ones that didn't work.

It's not like it's a lame concept of a unit being named "motherly one who leads" and then having that unit being in ample sized groups being lead around by another person, as well as having a dreadful naming sequence that is the same as "adjective/noun" + "noun" that is a general cop-out when it comes to all the elementals, plus "magic bird" and "shadow Unicorn" and such. Yes, very faction, much concept, wow.

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fuChris
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posted November 07, 2014 07:17 PM

I'm all for a dungeon that is full of beasts so the medusa would be my choice if only they got the stonegaze ability. Let the matriarch get the mesmerizing abilities but a medusa is not the same without the stonegaze.
A walker/caster martiarch would be awesome tho. It would allow both to be in the same lineup.
One can only dream...
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GenyaArikado
GenyaArikado


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posted November 07, 2014 07:22 PM

I wont vote since i love  both


And having the medusa here might mean that if we get nagas: 1- the naga queen might return or 2 - another snake haird girl which would  be lazy but  not too annoying 3- no naga females (no  me gusta) - any of these girls might happen
 
 

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Sleeping_Sun
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posted November 07, 2014 07:54 PM

I like/want both, so I can't vote. You did not put that option.

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War-overlord
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posted November 07, 2014 08:00 PM

Storm-Giant said:
Where's the "Why not both?" option?

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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


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posted November 07, 2014 08:07 PM

Medusa.

I hate that SM snow. Never liked it and I hate everything dark-elvish.

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Hired Hero
posted November 07, 2014 08:08 PM

Sleeping_Sun said:
I like/want both, so I can't vote. You did not put that option.


I´m sorry, but I couldnt put this option, because if I would, nobody would vote the other options

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kiryu133
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posted November 07, 2014 08:58 PM

I do like both, but i feel a compromise is more than possible: as i wrote in another thread you could easily just say Medusas are Shadow Matriarchs that underwent some transformation turning them draconic/snakey for power or some shizz which leads to medusas.

Matriarchs are cool and all, but medusas man. Just 2 kool 4 skool.

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Minion
Minion


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posted November 07, 2014 09:19 PM

Matriarch for me, by a slight margin. I really love dem both haha.
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Kronos1000
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posted November 07, 2014 09:47 PM
Edited by Kronos1000 at 21:58, 07 Nov 2014.

Medusa. I am not a big fan of the Matriarchs, the fact that they were in a higher tier than Hydras felt a bit ridicules to me. I am not a fan of the 'SM' style either, these points do not particularly count in their favour. I don't particularly hate them or anything, but I don't think they can beat the Medusa.
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kiryu133
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posted November 07, 2014 10:43 PM

i kinda want matriarchs as champions actually. Getting Dungeon back  to their offensive spellcasting roots so to speak through a unit.

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NACHOOOO
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posted November 07, 2014 10:45 PM

I don't dislike the Medusa, I just prefer the matriarch. She shoots balls of lightning what's not to like?
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