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posted November 18, 2014 12:35 AM |
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I think that for comic book superhero lovers the Nolan Batman trilogy will stand strong for a long while as a genre-defining standout movie series. Especially the 2nd part.
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posted November 18, 2014 01:10 AM |
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I think the "Hunger Games" trilogy, too.
The chick is over rated but the movies are a good transition from the books and those are definetively classic material.
Of course, when in heard that now we have an international reality show in Europe called "The Hunger Games" (where people play paintball matches), I feel confused about what part of the message as arrived to the "great" public but what ever...
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posted November 18, 2014 01:23 AM |
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posted November 18, 2014 02:55 AM |
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I saw the first one I think. the whole time I was thinking it's like a toned down version of battle royale.
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posted November 18, 2014 07:16 AM |
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Thanks for mentioning Battle Royale, that's a really good one. It's basically a story about how adults can't connect with children and college entry exams. Definitely a classic if you can stomach the violence. It's rather distasteful if contrasted to hollywood's standards.
I think it's an insult to Battle Royale to say that Hunger Games is anything like it. Hunger Games is just the latest big name in the young women's genre where the "nothing-special-about-me-ordinary-white-girl" suddenly becomes the center of the entire world and is surrounded by hunky guys that all really want her love. DISGUSTING 
I wouldn't mind Hunger Games if the main character was actually doing anything meaningful. Her function in the plot seems to be more like that of a mcguffin than a protagonist.
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posted November 18, 2014 08:19 AM |
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PULP FICTION - for being a masterpiece.
JURASSIC PARK for being the blueprint for how to employ up-to-date computer animated graphics for a stunning experience (THEY LOOK SO REAL!!! OOOOH, HOW CUTE!)
BLADE RUNNER - for being a masterpiece.
TERMINATOR - for demonstrating that you don't need a lot of money to be able to make a genre-defining nerve-wrecking tour-de-force.
ALIEN - because it worked.
FOOTNOTE: Considering that James Cameron made Terminator in 1984 and ALIEN II in 1986, he should have known that employing a multitude of Terminators or Aliens in any kind of story or movie could only result in CRAP.
FOOTNOTE 2: Personally, I think Star Wars is CRAP. Seriously bad crap, actually - but crap well done; it's a fairy tale with way too many clichés, starting with recreating carrier battles of WW 2 and not ending with letting the Imperial stormtroopers look like Imperial Japanese.
THE SHINING - That's an interesting one. SK said, while Jack Nicholson was of course a great casting for the role, trouble was, he starred in Cuckoo Nest right before that, so everyone made him a nutter, once he started showing signs of being one, which isn't what's going on, actually. Still, from a directing perspective, The Shining is perfect. It doesn't even shy away from sacrificing the rescuer.
EVIL DEAD - For being everything a horror movie can be, at the same time.
NOLAN'S BATMAN TRILOGY - Because it's the closest any movie(s) can come to successfully compress such a rich comic universe into 150 minute pieces. And of course because it ultimately showed that MOVIES ARE DEAD, and how there is no alternative to making TV shows at least out of all those Comic Heroes (what a waste to have them in movies).
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posted November 18, 2014 12:27 PM |
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Edited by artu at 12:34, 18 Nov 2014.
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Once again, I think Blade Runner, Shining and the Alien are already classics, too old to qualify. There is only two years between Blade Runner and Terminator, yet Blade Runner made it fast. Reasonable list though. (Except I haven't seen Footnote 1 and 2, yet )
Btw, Star Wars is a fantasy tale with sci-fi decor, so it's literally a fairy tale just like LotR and Lucas in most documentaries openly explains how he took the dogfights from WW1-2 plane movies, the Jedis from Douglas Fairbanks style sword fights, Han Solo from the Westerns and the archetype of the lone-gun (think how we are introduced with him in a Saloon), Stormtroopers and the empire officers in general are of course mostly influenced by the Nazis and the actual Stormtroopers (SW stormtroopers really look a little Japanese though). It's how he managed to embed all these elements into one consistent fictional universe with taste that is part of the charm.
Evil Dead can turn into a "Cat People" kind of movie, at this age the popcorn guy does not watch it anymore since Horror genre gets old quickly but the movie is remembered for starting the formula of "don't show them the monster, let them imagine" which is also used in Alien and Jaws.
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posted November 18, 2014 12:47 PM |
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That Star Wars is a fairy tale, wasn't the point of criticism, but only a statement of fact - it's given the form of a classic fairy tale that comes in sci-fi clothing. You name all the elements that are part of it, and while I agree that STAR WARS has a certain charme as a standalone brew concocted of all these elements, it's a bit sparse to blow it to what it became. You know, one movie with the dashing Han Solo in his supposed wreck of a ship and a handful of rebels destroying a super weapon of an evil empire has been fine - but more of it was the curse of making a truckload of money, so I consider the Star Wars SERIES and the Star Wars UNIVERSE as CRAP.
Evil Dead, on the other hand is my nomination, because it plays on every instrument and with every emotion a horror movie can possibly play. Shock, disgust, Horror, building up expectations only to "disappoint" and so on.
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posted November 18, 2014 12:57 PM |
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Edited by artu at 12:58, 18 Nov 2014.
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I think like that about the prequels in the 2000's and the animation series etc, anything other than the original trilogy is indeed an attempt at milking a successful merchandise dry. Empire Strikes Back is better than A New Hope though, to many including me and Return of the Jedi is all right.
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posted November 18, 2014 01:48 PM |
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Keksimaton said:
It's basically a story about how adults can't connect with children and college entry exams.
Done with a very nice analogy 
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posted November 18, 2014 03:19 PM |
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Keksimaton said:
I think it's an insult to Battle Royale to say that Hunger Games is anything like it. Hunger Games is just the latest big name in the young women's genre where the "nothing-special-about-me-ordinary-white-girl" suddenly becomes the center of the entire world and is surrounded by hunky guys that all really want her love. DISGUSTING
it's not what I meant. the setting reminded me of battle royale, but the treatment was far less interesting, much more mainstream.
I haven't seen it yet, but according to the trailer, the maze runner seems to be the same in comparison to cube, a toned down and more mainstream version. btw, cube could be in the classics, if it isn't already.
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posted November 22, 2014 08:21 PM |
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They might be old enough to be considered "classics" already by some, but the movies I think will continue to have appeal in the long term:
Titanic
Ghostbusters
Saving Private Ryan
Jurassic Park
Forrest Gump
Indiana Jones (#1 & #3)
Dances with Wolves
Shrek
Movies like the Avengers or Avatar have a huge initial impact in the theaters but I expect their appeal to degrade fairly quickly over time. Dramas and/or campy movies are what can survive long-term.
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posted November 22, 2014 08:30 PM |
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Pulp fiction. first and foremost.
other than that... nothing trully comes to mind.
maybe Forest Gump and The Green Mile.
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posted November 22, 2014 08:58 PM |
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Edited by artu at 20:59, 22 Nov 2014.
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I'd say Toy Story already surpassed Shrek in this regard and Dances with the Wolves is already quite forgotten compared to the hype it once started. Btw, I cant believe everybody goes as old as early eighties yet nobody once came up with the Fight Club. There have been so many references to that movie in popular culture, it's like the Mona Lisa of movies in that regard.
And if movies such as Ghostbusters are in, Die Hard made it ten times to the list.
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posted November 22, 2014 09:51 PM |
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Fight Club is a good one.
The Sixth Sense?
I think I forgot
ANGEL HEART. Total Masterpiece. Brilliant plot - you just don't see it coming. De Niro as Mr. Louis Cyphre. Lisa Bonet screwing up her career, having too good and too believable explicit sex scenes as 20-year old Bill Cosby show star, Mickey Rourke on the way to superstardom, except he botched it later.
(I also think that Johnny Handsome is a pretty cool, punky film noir (with Rourke, featuring Ellen Barkin and Lance Henriksen as a really, really punky, evil Bonny & Clyde version.)
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posted November 22, 2014 09:58 PM |
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I watched Angel Heart as a 17 yo or something, can't remember much to be fair, I was about to become a great admirer of Robert De Niro at that time; he used to only act in good stuff and I was renting every VHS of all the De Niro films I could find. I remember it was a different and original movie, not your typical Hollywood characters. But it left no significant impact on me. Maybe, I was too young.
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posted November 22, 2014 10:15 PM |
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Alan Parker's movie before Mississippi Burning which got a lot of nominations for a lot of stuff, but, well. Angel Heart is probably too dark, in the end to be successful in mainstream movie business.
If you can't remember it, give it another go, it's fun. (Since it came to me with Fight Ckub and Sixth Sense it's clear that there is some kind of twist.)
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Edited by VokialBG at 23:15, 22 Nov 2014.
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Sleepy Hallow 
Caligula (1979)
House of Tolerance - if it was famous.
Stalingrad (1993)
Euro cinema was always with better value then the american.
There will be not really new classics. Not really. With time classics will disappear. You cant keep so much movies in that "section".
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posted November 23, 2014 08:46 AM |
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The pixar movies are definitely going to go down as classics. I'm thinking Wall-E, Up, and the 3 Toy Stories, though I have nothing bad to say about any of them.
I've never seen Frozen but gathering from the way everybody keeps talking about it, it must be quite the ****.
Definitely "Fight Club". It's both highly memorable and its also achieved a type of permanent cultural cache.
Also definitely "Matrix" for the same reasons.
The only comic book movies that I think are going to become classics are The Watchmen and The Dark Knight. Heath Ledger immortalized both himself and the film with his performance.
Also, the Star Wars prequels have kind of become classics just out of their sheer horribleness.
haha, I just scanned through this thread and didn't see LOTR anywhere. Seriously, **** Peter Jackson.
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posted November 23, 2014 09:03 AM |
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I've never seen Frozen but gathering from the way everybody keeps talking about it, it must be quite the ****.
It's actually quite generic in all regards.
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