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husham123
husham123


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posted May 06, 2015 01:23 PM

Finally, I finished this umm s***. I sent the reasons to Jiriki, so I think I am done with it. I also have the exams at school, so PLEASE wait for me
Or at least, umm...
Homewer publish them, it tooks long for the results.
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leiah2
leiah2


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posted May 06, 2015 05:29 PM

Yay! : D I know my faction won't get a high score since it's not that good but it will be interesting to see what other people have thought of my faction : D And it wil be fun to know who wins : O

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husham123
husham123


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posted May 06, 2015 07:52 PM

I would tell my impression about it, not the score, of course with the permission of Jiriki.
Your town didn't kicked that out as other towns. It was original, and I enjoy the ideas. You did a nice job, as the others done too
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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


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posted May 06, 2015 10:44 PM

When Did I give that permission?

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husham123
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posted May 07, 2015 11:06 AM

I know you didn't, sorry, I spelled wrong. I meant that I will tell this only if you will allow me to keep it. Homewer, there is no score, and the judge is already done. It's just one tip.: You could do better
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articun
articun


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posted May 10, 2015 11:50 AM

And thus, we've come the long way. Today is the time of the results!

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Geny
Geny


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posted May 10, 2015 06:26 PM

Or is it?...
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articun
articun


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posted May 10, 2015 07:10 PM

It... should... have been...

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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


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posted May 11, 2015 08:03 AM
Edited by Jiriki9 at 09:54, 11 May 2015.

Quote:
and latest on May 11 I will release the scores.




Gimme half an hour to wake up and another short time to sum up the scores

EDIT: Sorry, it delays a bit, hopefully not more than a day, because I just now realized not all judges did all factions.

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husham123
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posted May 11, 2015 01:16 PM

First of all, Sorry, Jiriki, and second of all, Sorry everyone
I forgot the 'Loft', the 'Portal Cores' and the 'Refugee/Wanderers'...
Sorry for late-ness... Homewer, I had an exam at school, so it needs some eh, time for this.
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Articun
Articun


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posted May 11, 2015 01:32 PM

I was forgotten... :'(

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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


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posted May 11, 2015 03:57 PM
Edited by Jiriki9 at 17:23, 11 May 2015.

So, the scores are here...and actually, there are surprisingly many same-scoring entries. Spoilering a bit ahead, we got a tie for first, third, fourth and sixth place, and none of these resulted of all judges agreeing on one score.

Well, I will babble a bit about statistics further down, for now, here are the scores, beginning with...the last. To keep suspense up for the higher field. Also, I will give the score rounded to two decimal places and name who gave which score.

Rank 17: The faction that sadly was not even named: "tba" by Darkem - 0 points (0 from all^^)

Rank 16: Only one pic, but not pointless: rootrocka's Tribe - 0,33 points (1 from Steyn, none from Husham123 & Jiriki)

Rank 15: The lineup of a Chinese-based faction: "Summit" by JeremiahEmo - 2,33 points (1 from Husham123, 2 from Jiriki, 4 from Steyn)

Rank 14: Bugs with guns: "Forge" by Mediczero- 2,67 points (3 from Husham123, 1 from Jiriki, 4 from Steyn)

Rank 13: The Inquisition as its own faction: Kimarous' "Oubliette" - 3,67 points (2 from Husham123, 2 from Jiriki, 7 from Steyn)

Rank 12: The story of the Swarm: "Hive" by Articun - 4 points (5 from Husham123, 2 from Jiriki, 5 from Steyn)

Rank 11: Faction of Flyers: HiddenElephant's "Loft" - 5,33 points (8 from Husham123, 4 from Jiriki, 4 from Steyn)

So, from now on, we get to the top 10 - ranks, not factions.

Rank 10: The unfinished vision of the Shantiri reborn: "Ancient Shantiri" by LightAvatarX - 6,33 points (11 from Husham123, 5 from Jiriki, 3 from Steyn)

Rank 9: Of Rebels and Necromancers: "Necromancer's Guild" by Husham123 - 7,5 points (6 from Jiriki, 9 from Steyn)

Rank 8: Mages, Money, Mercenaries: The "Guild" by DagothGares - 8,33 points (6 from Husham123, 7 from Jiriki, 12 from Steyn)

Rank 7: The nomads of Ranaar: Steyn's "Free Folk" - 11 points (12 from Husham123, 10 from Jiriki)

Now, we come to the first rank with 2 factions in it, and through this, we do not really have a top 10 factions, but from now on, well, we are within the "top eleven".

Rank 6: Geny's fun factions both get 13,67 points. They were... The union of Droid and Core - The "Portal Cores" (16 from Husham123, 15 from Jiriki, 10 from Steyn) ...and... The old badass buddies from the "Retirement Home" (17 from Husham123, 10 from Jiriki, 14 from Steyn)

Rank 5: The Guardians of the Underworld: "Hades" by Fauch - 14 points (18 from Husham123, 11 from Jiriki, 13 from Steyn)

Rank 4: On this rank we actually have 3 different factions in a tie! They will be handled alphabetically - and they all got 14,33 points (which of course means they only narrowly outdid Hades). And they are...

...The Empire of Elementals - "Conflux" by Sleeping_Sun (13 from Husham123, 17 from Jiriki, 13 from Steyn)
...Demons as perverted Elements - "Inferno" by Articun (16 from Husham123, 11 from Jiriki, 16 from Steyn)
...The Union of Merfolk and Lizards - leiah2's "Moors" (15 from Husham123, 11 from Jiriki, 17 from Steyn)


We now come to the top five factions and the top 3 ranks...suspense is rising!

Rank 3: Another tie here, anda gain only a third of a point above rank 4. With 14,67 points...

...The Armies from the Void - "Oblivion" by Gnomes2169 (14 from Husham123, 16 from Jiriki, 14 from Steyn)
...The freedom-loving people of Ylath - Articun's "Wanderers" (16 from Husham123, 14 from Jiriki, 14 from Steyn)

We are now really closing in on the top factions this year - the top 3 factions, to be precise. And surprsingly, the score gaps are a tiny bit higher again...

Rank2: The only top-scoring faction claiming a score for itself, the only collaborative work this year - I present you the scaled inhabitants of the swamp. Applause for ... "Bastion" by Minastir and Articun -  16,67 points (17 from Husham123, 18 from Jiriki, 15 from Steyn)

And now, we are already at our top score and it indeed is a shared one here, again! This, to me, is fortunate in many ways including the fact that the factions were presented in quite a different way. Enough babbling, on to ...

Rank 1
Our top 2 factions got an equal score of 18 points. I want a hearty applause for...

...the united realm of Air and Water: PandaTar's "Foundations" (19 from Husham123, 16 from Jiriki, 19 from Steyn)
AND
...the Towns of the Elementals: Minastir's "Polis" (20 from Husham123, 16 from Jiriki, 18 from Steyn)

*applauds wildly* Congratulations by me to our two victors, as well as to all other participants. Now, before I come to some statistics that came to my mind, a couple of announcements:

1) I will open a poll about how well the restrictions have been received, shortly. The threat with that poll will, I think, also suffice as a place to discuss the contest and its outcomes.

2) I plan on hosting a friendly, fun contest on HC after I'm ready with my master thesis and will probably shortly also open a poll about which kind of contest people would like. (IF you have suggestions, feel free to HCM me)


Now, enough announcement, time for a bit of "Statistic" fun.

First, the judges. The average scores we gave were quite different, maybe we are differently "strict" or such I gave the lowest average score (8,8), Steyn was the middle ground (10,1) and Husham gave the highest average score (10,9). The average of the average scores was 9,9, which, I think is a good indicator we did not do such a bad job, as it is pretty close to the middle. More from the judges...the highest score given was also different amongst us. Husham was the only one to give a 20, Steyn gave scores up to 19, and I gave only 18 points to the faction I deemed best. The lowest score was always the same - 0^^
Then, let's see which score spans the factions had, to see how much we (dis)agreed The biggest gap was at the ancient Shantiri, with a span of 8 between hushams and steyns scores. Hades and the Retirement home were really close, with a span of 7 and moors, portal cores and guild followed with 6. Seemingly, there was quite some disagreeing on how good these factions were. THe other side, exists too, though. We all agreed to give  no score to the faction which remained unnamed and only one of us disagreed on this when juding the tribe. The least disagreement on factions with more score were on the wanderers the Free Folk and Oblivion (though maybe one should not count the Free Folk here because only 2 people had to agree.
And now, let's see what happens if we did not rank by average score, but by highest given score We'd have a slightly clearer top 3, with Polis being the first, Foundations the second and Hades and Bastion sharing third place. It is notable here, that our top 2 factions would be the same! *applauds again* And Bastion would as well stay close to the top, while hades would rise quite a bit. If we took the lowest given score as measurement, still the top 3 factions would be Polis, Foundations and Bastion. I think that really shows how well received these factions were! An interesting this about the lowest score-ranking is that it is really not much different from the average scores with only Conflux stepping the htird of a step forward away form Inferno and moors, the Free Folk rising up to the same level as Geny's factions, the Necromancer's Guild pushing aside the Guild to share a rank, teh Loft exceeding the Shantiri, and the Oubliette rising up to the hive. But noone would gain or loose much in this. Looking this way at the Highest scores gained by a faction, we would have even more ties and things would be a bit more messed up in comparison to the average-score-ranking.

So, this is it for now, reasons will follow shortly, but these are the scores!

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Articun
Articun


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posted May 11, 2015 04:20 PM

Ranked 2, 4, 12, not bad! Too bad i couldn't evolve more the factions, but oh well! For a first try it wasn't bad. Maybe next time i could find more time. The idea of the Hive is still very much active in my mind and you may see it again

Gongratulations to both PandaTar and Minastir for their thorough and extensive work on their factions!

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Geny
Geny


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posted May 11, 2015 05:49 PM

"Top eleven", baby.
What's interesting is that they both got different individual scores from the judges, but averaged the same. Conspiracy?

Congratulations to the winners. You did great job. Same goes for the runner-ups, there is real quality in those factions.

And thanks to the judges who saw this through, and especially to Jiriki who organized the whole thing.

@Articun
You've made some great things. Maybe next time you should focus on finishing one faction instead of branching up so much.

@Jiriki
If there's any verbal feedback on my factions I would love to hear it.
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Articun
Articun


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As i dream, so shall it be!
posted May 11, 2015 06:02 PM

Geny said:
@Jiriki
If there's any verbal feedback on my factions I would love to hear it.


So would i!

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Minastir
Minastir


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posted May 11, 2015 06:08 PM

Thank You to the judges and congratulations to PandaTar !

Thank you also to Articun who created Bastion with me, maybe we should keep this collaboration alive and make another new faction next time Articun you have forgot about the third place You're ranked 2,3,4,12 !

and thanks to Jiriki9 for for taking time to organise this and for inviting me to the contest because I didn't knew about it before

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leiah2
leiah2


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posted May 11, 2015 06:37 PM

Congratulations to PandaTar and Minastir! Your factions were awesome And an applaude for the judges for taking the time to judge all of the factions! And I'm very happy with my score as well :]

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PandaTar
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posted May 11, 2015 07:08 PM

Oh, I'm delighted and pretty much surprised!

Also, congratulations to Minastir and all other competitors in equal measure.

And I appreciate for all the kindness of every one of you. I did what I could with the time I had. Entered the fray 1 month before the deadline and I didn't have some things finished as I wanted, but did put some effort on what it's there. I was a bit worried because it was not very popular. Only Minastir had commented there, and some mechanics were a bit different from the usual.  

The line of thinking was that "if was to make a Heroes game, I would make it somehow like this", something that I would actually enjoy playing in the line of depths of mechanics, even if it would be much more complex than what it is. So, it was my way of voicing what I would expect and hope for this franchise, which made me a bit more willing to propose this idea.

Hopefully, rules allowed such freedom (although I ran out of space to write in only 1 post ^^, so I had to cut here and there to make it logically presentable) of creation.

Again, thank you. It has really improved my mood.
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Heroes-based proposal thread On hold, while I'm writing my book. =)

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articun
articun


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As i dream, so shall it be!
posted May 11, 2015 07:19 PM

Minastir said:
Thank You to the judges and congratulations to PandaTar !

Thank you also to Articun who created Bastion with me, maybe we should keep this collaboration alive and make another new faction next time Articun you have forgot about the third place You're ranked 2,3,4,12 !

and thanks to Jiriki9 for for taking time to organise this and for inviting me to the contest because I didn't knew about it before


My friend, i am always one PM away You also have my email, so any time you get an idea you want to get going, i'd be happy to expand on it!

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DagothGares
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posted May 11, 2015 08:47 PM

My judgement has been disqualified, anyone who wants a judgement on their faction, just hcm me.
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