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JeremiahEmo
JeremiahEmo


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posted January 14, 2015 11:49 PM

Poll Question:
What If Sanctuary Looked More Like Snakes?

What if the Nagas looked like this: Of course the lore has to be adjusted to fit their looks. Just add kimonos on them to make them look Japanese.





I never liked H6's Sanctuary. They look too human. Both the men and the women should look something like that. I prefer a little more diversity in the Heroes game but what do you think?

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I Love It! This Should Have Been Sanctuary!
I Hate It! I Prefer Ubi's Snake-Humans!
It's an Improvement but It's not Snake Enough!
Both Ubi's Idea and Your's Suck! I Prefer Something Else!
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Elvin
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What if Elvin was female?
posted January 15, 2015 12:35 AM

I actually like ubi's design but more snake-like wouldn't be bad at all. What this faction misses however is a proper lizardman.
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Stevie
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posted January 15, 2015 01:08 AM
Edited by Stevie at 01:09, 15 Jan 2015.

Compared to that picture the Heroes 6 models are much better lol.

I'm not sure if this thread's legit. I don't see a problem with the Naga designs. Just the water/snow spirits were an issue, but the Kenseis were actually one of the coolest creatures in Sanctuary imo.
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Kimarous
Kimarous


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posted January 15, 2015 01:19 AM

I don't think they need to look more snake-like. That's like asking centaurs to look more horse-like. Think of it that way - that nagas are... snakentaurs.

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cleglaw
cleglaw


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posted January 15, 2015 02:54 AM

i want lizardmen fortrress back, so no i ll pass this.

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Kurush
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posted January 15, 2015 07:35 AM

Kimarous said:
I don't think they need to look more snake-like. That's like asking centaurs to look more horse-like. Think of it that way - that nagas are... snakentaurs.


Rather Censnakes

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JeremiahEmo
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posted January 15, 2015 07:54 AM

but making Centaurs more horse-like won't differentiate it from the regular horse. This is very different from the regular snake.



Plus, I think people are missing the beauty of this type of Naga. It's not human-looking unlike the one in Sanctuary.


The only human-looking faction other than the humans should be elves and dwarves.

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Kimarous
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posted January 15, 2015 09:23 AM
Edited by Kimarous at 09:30, 15 Jan 2015.

JeremiahEmo said:
but making Centaurs more horse-like won't differentiate it from the regular horse. This is very different from the regular snake.

Yes! A horse with arms and abs between its head and legs is very different from a snake with arms and abs between its head and tail!

JeremiahEmo said:
The only human-looking faction other than the humans should be elves and dwarves.

Also the other kind of elves...
And the orcs...
And a few breeds of demon...
And many forms of undead...
Plus the creations of Academy...

...yeah, um, what's the problem again?

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Zombi_Wizzard
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posted January 15, 2015 11:32 AM
Edited by Zombi_Wizzard at 11:32, 15 Jan 2015.

I can immagine orc doing it with a horse to produce a centaur .... but who'd do it with snake ... and how?

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Avonu
Avonu


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posted January 15, 2015 11:43 AM
Edited by Avonu at 11:46, 15 Jan 2015.

But we have already snake and non-so-human Nagas - Sayama Nagas - which live in many oases across Sahaar Desert and seek Tower of Dreamer:



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War-overlord
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posted January 15, 2015 11:43 AM

Elvin said:
I actually like ubi's design but more snake-like wouldn't be bad at all. What this faction misses however is a proper lizardman.

cleglaw said:
i want lizardmen fortrress back, so no i ll pass this.

I agree with these statements. I have advocated the return of a Lizardman (H3 Fortress) faction many, many times. And I'll likely not stop untill we get one.
But I disagree with the sentiment that the Lizardmen should join the Naga in Sanctuary. Swamps, Witchcraft(Voodoo) and Savagery, IMHO miz badly with the Serenity and Shintoistic Composure of Sanctuary.

As for a more snake-like Naga, I'm not certain if we officially know what the 3rd subspecies of Naga looks like, the Lake Naga, but they are, according to the Compendium, the most Snake-like.
But we must keep in mind that Naga are not Beast-men and I think we should not try to make them such.
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Avonu
Avonu


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posted January 15, 2015 11:53 AM

War-overlord said:
As for a more snake-like Naga, I'm not certain if we officially know what the 3rd subspecies of Naga looks like, the Lake Naga, but they are, according to the Compendium, the most Snake-like.


As I asked Marzhin about this long ago, here is what he knew about them:
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The Ashan Compendium lists the third race as the Lake Nagas: "average in size (measuring around 6 feet tall when coiled, and 10 feet long to the tip of their tail. Their scales are of a pale blue-green colour, with brighter streaks, and their faces are more ophidian than those of the Coral Nagas. They are found in lakes, large rivers, and marshes."
I think Olivier Ledroit's "Naga Geisha" is supposed to be a Lake Naga (although I'll have to ask Erwan for confirmation).
The Shanriya Nagas are just another clan of Nagas, not a separate species.


Here is mentioned Oliver Ledroit's artwork:

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War-overlord
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posted January 15, 2015 12:01 PM

That may be the case. But the proof of the pudding is usually in the male of the species. We are all aware of the tendencies in fictional humanoid-species, that the females of the species resemble human women reasonably close, whereas males often hardly resemble humans at all.
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Avirosb
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posted January 15, 2015 01:46 PM

I don't know if I'm ready for a furaffinity faction yet.

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Dave_Jame
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posted January 15, 2015 03:00 PM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 15:01, 15 Jan 2015.

Your idea is not bad, and some of it might be a good addition but I like how ubi made their naga. In my opinion, together With the orcs, they are the among the best of their factions.

I had to give "I hate it" due to the way you constructed the pole, but I think if this rather simple image would be re-mmade to fitt the games style it would not look bad at all.  

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Greenlore
Greenlore


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posted January 16, 2015 02:44 AM

Overall I had no problem with the H6 nagas,although I prefer the ones who had more snake-like features,like the kenshi or some of the naga-heroes.
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Pawek_13
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posted January 16, 2015 08:08 AM

One thing is sure - bagas have a huge potential as a faction in Heroes games (as presented by DoC), it just has to be used in a right way.

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Greenlore
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posted January 16, 2015 06:27 PM

Pawek_13 said:
One thing is sure - bagas have a huge potential as a faction in Heroes games (as presented by DoC), it just has to be used in a right way.


uhm what is a bagas?
I never heard of that before and can't find anything about that.
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Avonu
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posted January 16, 2015 06:28 PM
Edited by Avonu at 18:28, 16 Jan 2015.

These are creatures which live on the left of nagas.
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GenyaArikado
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posted January 18, 2015 04:43 AM

War-overlord said:
That may be the case. But the proof of the pudding is usually in the male of the species. We are all aware of the tendencies in fictional humanoid-species, that the females of the species resemble human women reasonably close, whereas males often hardly resemble humans at all.


its funny because its mythologically accurate

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