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cleglaw
cleglaw


Famous Hero
posted January 23, 2015 05:07 PM

Academy culture - guys with turbans

Hello there. I'm a turkish guy and im really disturbed by the usage of word "turban" in h5 +h7.

turban is an uniformal head-dress of over-religious, exterist islamists. it is a tool to fight with secular people. even in turkey, this is the annoying reality for last few decades. this thing, turban, was never a religion/culture cloth, but was a political/extremist cloth.

and by the way this cloth is only for woman. to cover their hair, to cover their sexuallity.

it is basically a bullsnow invention, a very disgusting tool in real world.

so can i please want ubisoft to stop using it in MMH?

a thing which is incredibly annoying in real world, is in academy page.. and is not pleasing me. not at all.

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supertommy
supertommy


Known Hero
posted January 23, 2015 05:11 PM
Edited by supertommy at 17:14, 23 Jan 2015.

Never seen a woman use a Turban. According to Wikipedia, some Christians in Kenya use Turbans. Also Sikhs in India.


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Stormcaller
Stormcaller


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posted January 23, 2015 05:13 PM
Edited by Stormcaller at 17:14, 23 Jan 2015.

Turban is also used by some african cultures as well as indian, you dont get to monopolise it just cause you're turkish. Also, you're wrong. It's a primarily male headpiece, atleast in India even if it's used by women nowadays.

I know all of this yet im croatian and christian, lel.

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Avirosb
Avirosb


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posted January 23, 2015 05:14 PM
Edited by Avirosb at 17:14, 23 Jan 2015.



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Kimarous
Kimarous


Supreme Hero
posted January 23, 2015 05:20 PM

We've known about this bit of text for quite some time. I don't recall you making a fuss when it was first revealed.

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Sorts
Sorts


Known Hero
posted January 23, 2015 05:24 PM

Is this a turkish thing or are you just trolling?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turban (If anybody has a better source about different nations, cultures and religions using a turban, please share.

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cleglaw
cleglaw


Famous Hero
posted January 23, 2015 05:26 PM
Edited by cleglaw at 17:32, 23 Jan 2015.

türban

see? this is why im againts direct world referances in homm universe. call it in other name, just no "turban" please.

any guy in turkey would laugh from their ass when they see such artifact like "turban of enlightment", since it is used for opposite in real life.

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Stormcaller
Stormcaller


Famous Hero
posted January 23, 2015 05:29 PM

And that is supposed to accomplish what? You clearly stated it's only worn by women, when it's clearly not.

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cleglaw
cleglaw


Famous Hero
posted January 23, 2015 05:35 PM

im againts the word, not this head-dress in india.

i dont want turban word. thats all. simple. dont use turban. please. its like saying "snow you secular people".

not trolling or anything im deadly serious about this.

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supertommy
supertommy


Known Hero
posted January 23, 2015 05:37 PM
Edited by supertommy at 17:40, 23 Jan 2015.

You're against the word? It's a headpiece, used by many people in many different religions. It's the name of the item.. It's like banning the word "Luger" since Nazi-Germany used the gun.

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cleglaw
cleglaw


Famous Hero
posted January 23, 2015 05:48 PM
Edited by cleglaw at 17:49, 23 Jan 2015.

i explained how türban is used in turkey. its a symbol of extremists.

extremists are putting preasure on female like "you are with-turban or you are a snow" this what turkey struggling for a while.

this usage of turban word, is just like promoting this extremists. we, secular people in turkey, dont like türban. we hate türban. we hate to see it in every corner of our social life.

i ll say no more about this, just please someone from ubisoft read this. its super easy to confirm my words, ask any people from turkey.


@Kimarious

i was very disturbed even back then, but i didnt want to hesitate about this.

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Greenlore
Greenlore


Known Hero
posted January 23, 2015 08:37 PM

Overall the academy seems to be more based on india and such is the use of the turban,where the turban simply is a symbol of honour and respect.

Also how else should they call it?Head-wrap-thingy?

And from what you posted it actually looks like Turban and Türban actually have different meanings,cause I only find pictures of women wearing a headscarf if i search for türban,not turban
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Steyn
Steyn


Supreme Hero
posted January 23, 2015 09:01 PM

cleglaw said:
türban

see? this is why im againts direct world referances in homm universe. call it in other name, just no "turban" please.

any guy in turkey would laugh from their ass when they see such artifact like "turban of enlightment", since it is used for opposite in real life.

turban
It's all in the way you spell it. You seem to be confusing turban and türban, which are apparently slightly different forms of headgear.
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Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
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posted January 24, 2015 12:25 AM
Edited by Maurice at 00:27, 24 Jan 2015.

I can see the confusion for certain and while I disagree on the usage of the actual word, I can fully well understand the sentiment that is behind it. Here in the Netherlands, the piece of headgear that's used to suppress female freedom is commonly called a "headcloth" (literal translation).

It's been a topic of heated discussions from time to time; one of our politicians even once suggested to institute a "headcloth tax" against more religious traditional families who insisted that women in their family had to wear it when leaving the house. There have even been lawsuits against companies because they either turned down a job candidate because she refused to put away the headcloth, or because she was fired for wearing one in a job that demands a uniform or a representational, official public function. Many women claim they wear the piece of headgear out of their own volition. It's unclear just how many say this because of the pressure of the men in their family, or because they've been brainwashed in their early life with regards to that piece of clothing.

That last part is a slippery scale, because we all have been brainwashed about certain subjects throughout our early years. Case in point: the topic of nudity. We're all born completely naked and yet many people feel uncomfortable with seeing other people naked, even if there's zero sexual intent behind that nudity. Yet, no one can say why they're uneasy about it.

In any case, female suppression is something that goes up against my personal moral standards. I believe in equality between men and women; men and women may be biologically different and thereby have different interests and talents (men are usually better in physically taxing jobs, women in healthcare), but that doesn't make them unequal. We're all human beings and you need both to procreate. I find it completely absurd that women are still structurally getting paid less for a job than men performing that same job. On the other hand, I also find it absurd when they're setting gender quota for positions within a company or government agency. The best person should be selected for the position, regardless of gender. The main issue lies in giving men and women equal stimulation and opportunity to prove they're capable of performing according to the demands of the function in question.

The funny thing is that about a hundred years ago, it was common for Dutch women to wear a piece of headcloth when leaving the house; it made them show they were "proper", in the eyes of the Christian/Catholic church. After the second world war and the rise of the "Flower Power" period, it was luckily discarded and women managed to seize at least partial freedom from male dominance. There's still a way to go, however.

Anyway, for me the word "turban" doesn't equate to the "headcloth". For me (and I assume for most people living in the western world), a turban conforms to the type of headgear as described in this text (found on the Wiki page linked by someone else here in this topic):

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The origins of the turban are uncertain. Early Persians in modern Iran and Phrygians in modern Turkey wore a conical cap (Phrygian cap) encircled by bands of cloth, which historians have suggested was developed to become the modern turban, but other theories suggest it was first widely worn in Egypt. An early attestation for knowledge of the turban is found in the Roman author Ovid's Metamorphoses, dating to the 1st century BC. Ovid recounts the myth that Midas king of the Phrygians, an Indo-European people of central Turkey, wore a royal purple turban to cover his donkey ears.[2][3] A style of turban called a phakeolis continued to be worn in that region by soldiers of the Byzantine army in the period 400-600,[4] as well as by Byzantine civilians as depicted in Greek frescoes from the 10th century in the province of Cappadocia in modern Turkey,[5] where it was still worn by their Greek-speaking descendants in the early 20th century. The Prophet Muhammad, who lived 570-632, is believed to have worn a turban in white, the most holy colour. Many Muslim men choose to wear green, because it represents paradise, especially among followers of Sufism. In parts of North Africa, where blue is common, the shade of a turban can signify the tribe of the wearer.[6] There have been over sixty-six types of turbans[vague]. Hindus tend to reserve their turbans for ceremonies and significant occasions. Some Sikh men and also some Sikh women wear them all day with the exception of sleeping. It should be noted however not all Sikhs wear turbans and many only wear head coverings when they visit a temple. In Islamic countries, the headgear is regarded as Sunnah Mu'akkadah [clarification needed][according to whom?]. Sikh men commonly wear a peaked turban that serves for the purpose of covering their long hair, which in respect for God's creation is never cut. Devout Sikhs do not cut their beards either, so many instead twist them and tuck them up into their turbans.

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mvassilev
mvassilev


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
posted January 24, 2015 01:14 AM

"Turban" is the accepted English word for that kind of Arabic headress. Not to mention, including something in the game isn't an endorsement.
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Stevie
Stevie


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posted January 24, 2015 01:17 AM

Omg here we go again.....
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Storm-Giant
Storm-Giant


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posted January 24, 2015 01:22 AM


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Pawek_13
Pawek_13


Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
posted January 24, 2015 01:24 AM
Edited by Pawek_13 at 01:27, 24 Jan 2015.

Stevie said:
Omg here we go again.....

Yes, 'Here we go again'. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

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Avirosb
Avirosb


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Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted January 24, 2015 03:06 AM

Storm-Giant said:


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esvath
esvath


Known Hero
posted January 24, 2015 03:16 AM
Edited by esvath at 03:16, 24 Jan 2015.



Now, this is a good model for a genie heroine. Can I have her in game, please?

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