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Stormcaller
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posted January 29, 2015 12:50 PM |
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Cove like faction in h7 expansion/h8?
The horn of the abyss faction is badass, featuring pirates and sea creatures in one, as well as lizardmen ( well something similar ) Who wouldn't want to see a similar faction in an expansion?
Or do you think it's impossible because we already have Sanctuary as a water themed faction?
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War-overlord
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Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted January 29, 2015 01:03 PM |
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Stormcaller said:
The horn of the abyss faction is badass, featuring pirates and sea creatures in one, as well as lizardmen ( well something similar ) Who wouldn't want to see a similar faction in an expansion? Or do you think it's impossible because we already have Sanctuary as a water themed faction?
It would indeed be very easy for this to clash with Sanctuary.
If we want to push for Lizardmen, push for Swamp-Fortress Lizardmen. Less clashing as Swamps are still untaken.
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Greenlore
Known Hero
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posted January 29, 2015 03:07 PM |
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I doubt we'll see that in H7(I think that fortress and inferno are the most likely dlc-expansions there since they were both considered for the main game),but maybe in H8
I mean yeah we've got sanctuary already,but sanctuary looks more like a faction related to ponds,rivers,etc.not the ocean itself and a pirate themed faction could be different enough to be its own thing.
I mean the sea elf is already a thing,that one would kinda fit into a pirate faction
However I dunno how its line-up would look like,I mean the sea elf could be a fitting creature for it,a pirate would also be somewhere in the line-up,the mermaids could be elite shooters and maybe something like a kraken or leviathan for champion(or davy jones?) as champion?
But aside from those I dunno what creatures could be added to make the faction a bit more outstanding.
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Stormcaller
Famous Hero
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posted January 29, 2015 08:04 PM |
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Yeah, I would like to see swamp " fortress again, obviously under a different name since Fortress are now dwarves.
The japanese sanctuary doesn't sit well with me. While they had some interesting units like kappa, kensei and kirin, others were relatively boring and generic ( too much of floating spirits ) and their colours were either shades of blue or sea green, again way too mono coloured for my taste.
The reason I mentioned cove is because they are a nice combination of human mercenaries ( aka " evil " humans ) that we all like, and would like to see them as more than just occasional neutral units, and of course reptilian sea creatures that would combine the two into one.
Obviously Fortress already lost a lot of units to other towns ( wvyerns, chances are gnolls and basilisk may appear in stronghold as well, and so on )
And besides, who wouldn't like to have a huge sea serpent or a kraken as a tier 7 champion?
Something like this would be perfect I think
Core:
1. Pirate/Sea Dog
2. Lizardman warrior/ Lizardman Brute
3. Serpent fly/ Dragon Fly
Elites:
1. Mermaid/ Mermaid Enchantres
2. Sea Element
3. Corsair
Champion
1. Sea Serpent ( Not kirin, but like an actual drake lie serpent )
2. Kraken
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War-overlord
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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted January 29, 2015 08:09 PM |
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Stormcaller said:
Yeah, I would like to see swamp " fortress again, obviously under a different name since Fortress are now dwarves.
Obviously Fortress already lost a lot of units to other towns ( wvyerns, chances are gnolls and basilisk may appear in stronghold as well, and so on )
Of Course it will need a new name, but that should not be the main problem.
And as far as the lost creatures are concerned, those can be replaced.
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Stormcaller
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posted January 29, 2015 08:11 PM |
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Im mostly curious to see where will they go with H7 Sanctuary, if it appears at all. As long as they tone down the japanese influence a bit, the faction can go great lengths.
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War-overlord
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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted January 29, 2015 08:17 PM |
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Stormcaller said:
As long as they tone down the japanese influence a bit, the faction can go great lengths.
I don't expect them to. If anything I expect them to go further down that route.
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Stormcaller
Famous Hero
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posted January 29, 2015 09:12 PM |
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I hope not. As someone who watches anime and reads manga regulary, I can tell you there's a limited number of japanese mythological creatures that would actually fit within heroes games, and they were already pushing it in H6.
What's weird is that Sanctuary wasn't even proposed as an option in pools, opposed to Inferno and Fortress, meaning they currently dont have plans for it?
I don't know but I would prefer an old fashioned swamp theme. Maybe they can fit swamps within Sanctuary? Not everything has to be crystal pure ponds and lakes.
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War-overlord
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Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted January 30, 2015 11:08 AM |
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Stormcaller said:
I hope not. As someone who watches anime and reads manga regulary, I can tell you there's a limited number of japanese mythological creatures that would actually fit within heroes games, and they were already pushing it in H6.
What's weird is that Sanctuary wasn't even proposed as an option in pools, opposed to Inferno and Fortress, meaning they currently dont have plans for it?
I don't know but I would prefer an old fashioned swamp theme. Maybe they can fit swamps within Sanctuary? Not everything has to be crystal pure ponds and lakes.
I don't think the limits of Japanese myth are that constricting. I've come up with with a 13 creature Sanctuary line-up 2,5 years ago with only the minor bending the Oni. If one were to start interpreting Japanese Myth even more liberaly, I'm certain one could come up with even more.
As far as it not appearing in H7 vanilla, that it didn't realy fit into the storyline they had planned does not mean there are no plans with them.
And I would prefer Sanctuary not ever going the Swamp route. While that may seem like a nice compromise, that greatly lessens the chance of ever getting a Sovereign Swamp Faction, cause they're part of Sanctuary now.
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Greenlore
Known Hero
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posted January 30, 2015 02:49 PM |
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yeah,while some japanese creatures would definetly not fit into heroes(or the sanctuary itself,I mean I couldn't imagine something like an oni in the sanctuary),its not like they don't have enough creatures that would fit into heroes(or sanctuary for that matter).
Not to mention that sanctuary is not strictly restricted to asia,I mean the spring spirit isn't based on a specific creature as far as i know and nagas(or coral priestresses,who are basically gorgons) aren't even japanese.
Duels of champions also adds a nine-tails and some giant seabeasts to their creature pool(like a giant crab or turtle),even a yeti(although i think that one seriously looks out of place and should be more of a dwarven thing)
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