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Thread: Steam Workshop now lets modders sell their Skyrim mods for real money This thread is 8 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 · «PREV / NEXT»
Darkshadow
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posted April 26, 2015 10:19 PM
Edited by Darkshadow at 22:20, 26 Apr 2015.

kiryu133 said:
question: if modders/steam start charging for mods, will Bethesda be able to sue them? Or is this a gray area?


Bethesda is in on this obviously

They take the majority of money from each mod sale
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kiryu133
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posted April 26, 2015 10:32 PM

Darkshadow said:


Bethesda is in on this obviously

They take the majority of money from each mod sale


not sure how i feel about this, but it's certainly not positive

ok, if moders started taking payment outside this system? would that be legal, illegal or some sort gray area? I assume that would be some kind of copyright-infringement?


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Darkshadow
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posted April 26, 2015 10:33 PM

kiryu133 said:
Darkshadow said:


Bethesda is in on this obviously

They take the majority of money from each mod sale


not sure how i feel about this, but it's certainly not positive

ok, if moders started taking payment outside this system? would that be legal, illegal or some sort gray area? I assume that would be some kind of copyright-infringement?




As I understand it, sale without bethesdas approval=infringement

Workshop sales=ok

Donations=ok
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kiryu133
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posted April 26, 2015 10:47 PM

Darkshadow said:


As I understand it, sale without bethesdas approval=infringement

Workshop sales=ok

Donations=ok


suspected as much.

well, this is a mess. so much stuff to keep in mind when forming an opinion

i don't like it, what's stopping bethesda/anyone from forcing all modders to charge and then taking a cut of the profits? long way there, but still i guess there's nothing wrong per se, but still, ugh.
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Darkshadow
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posted April 27, 2015 09:18 AM

More top quality of paidshop explored: http://imgur.com/gallery/bqcla/new

I can't wait to see more
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posted April 27, 2015 01:36 PM
Edited by Datapack at 13:38, 27 Apr 2015.

husham123 said:
Well, Steam Crew is really selfish. They ask for money for everything, maybe the only free game is Team Fortress 2

This is not true, Dota 2 has the best free to play model out there.
The only thing you can buy in that game are cosmetics.
TF2 on the other hand has different weapons and such which affect the gameplay.

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posted April 27, 2015 01:48 PM

Darkshadow said:
More top quality of paidshop explored: http://imgur.com/gallery/bqcla/new

I can't wait to see more


One good thing: Now I understand why a lot of the modding tutorials I've read tell me to do the things they do.
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kiryu133
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posted April 27, 2015 06:54 PM

Jim's on it

thinking this could help a bit.
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husham123
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posted April 27, 2015 10:01 PM

STOP TALKING ABOUT SELLING THINKS WITH NO SENSE, OR GIVING MONEY FOR NO SENSE.
It aches my head now
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Darkshadow
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posted April 27, 2015 10:02 PM

Kareeah_Indaga said:
Darkshadow said:
More top quality of paidshop explored: http://imgur.com/gallery/bqcla/new

I can't wait to see more


One good thing: Now I understand why a lot of the modding tutorials I've read tell me to do the things they do.


A lot of the stuff seems like it was made from a modding tutorial
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Kareeah_Indaga
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posted April 28, 2015 12:47 AM

I must read/watch better tutorials than those mod makers then.
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Adrius
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posted April 28, 2015 06:44 AM

Victory.
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Darkshadow
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posted April 28, 2015 07:38 AM

Adrius said:
Victory.


*Salute*

A good won victory indeed

Now, if only Valve paid attention to the second front and got around to fixing Greenlight as well
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posted April 28, 2015 09:04 AM

Adrius said:
Victory.


Good job, lads. I'm proud of each and every one of you.
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posted April 28, 2015 10:21 AM
Edited by xerox at 10:21, 28 Apr 2015.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

Capitalism will return and it will claim all that is public!
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posted April 28, 2015 10:23 AM


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posted April 28, 2015 12:41 PM

Adrius said:
Victory.


*cheers*

Now can anyone tell me why my new eye colors aren't working in the Creation Kit?
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Datapack
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posted April 28, 2015 01:02 PM

I did not expect this...

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posted April 28, 2015 01:16 PM
Edited by Kareeah_Indaga at 01:00, 29 Apr 2015.

I went and read the blog post from Bethesda and this worries me:

Quote:
In our early discussions regarding Workshop with Valve, they presented data showing the effect paid user content has had on their games, their players, and their modders. All of it hugely positive. They showed, quite clearly, that allowing content creators to make money increased the quality and choice that players had. They asked if we would consider doing the same.

This was in 2012 and we had many questions, but only one demand. It had to be open, not curated like the current models. At every step along the way with mods, we have had many opportunities to step in and control things, and decided not to. We wanted to let our players decide what is good, bad, right, and wrong. We will not pass judgment on what they do. We’re even careful about highlighting a modder on this blog for that very reason.


They've been looking at this idea for three years and managed to FUBAR it as badly as they did. This does not bode well for Elder Scrolls VI. But I'm glad they at least saw sense in the end (or at least the large groups of rioters outside their digital windows).
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Corribus
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posted April 29, 2015 01:59 AM

This sounds like the outcome of a bad public relation strategy more than anything else. Reminds me a little bit of the Forge fiasco. Companies should in the future consider pitching their ideas to the fanbase BEFORE they become policy rather than the other way around.  Even if the outcome is ultimately the same, the company would emerge looking like the good guy rather than getting a black eye.
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