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Hence I've been wanting to see what would happen if nobody ever got any points in offense as they went up levels-reconfigure all classes to put all leveling into defense, spellpower, or knowledge, and thus make battles much more of a longer drawn out affair where the first significant attack doesn't effectively decide the battle right then and there.

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That wont work that way. You will have to unlearn Learning with the Memory Mentor first, save the game, apply the patch, load the game and then learn it again.

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I would decrease the staff and ring to 10 + 10% and the little onse to 5%...

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Have in mind that Daughters start with blood rage lvl 1 because of the abilities. Also I have the dragon scale armor which gives further 5% to small creatures.

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Wow that's a lot of homework

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I would decrease the staff and ring to 10 + 10% and the little onse to 5%...

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Actually most creatures have initiative between 8-11 and the effect on them is very small. I think a better fix may be to change the creatures with excessive amounts (14/15/16) to have -1 because they are much more affected by these artifacts than the other creatures and I'm not sure this was taken into account when Nival calculated their power ratings. Maybe that combined with 15%/7.5%. Then all dragon artifacts also 7.5%.

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Second one is that by increasing/decreasing army initiative the hero is pushed backward in the ATB.

+10% initiative may not seem that much but when you have 7 creatures (some of which act twice or trice!) VS one hero acting once it is a lot.

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Hence I've been wanting to see what would happen if nobody ever got any points in offense as they went up levels-reconfigure all classes to put all leveling into defense, spellpower, or knowledge, and thus make battles much more of a longer drawn out affair where the first significant attack doesn't effectively decide the battle right then and there.

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This is not possible, maybe you could try increasing all creature HP by 20-30%?

EDIT: Wait, possibly a much easier way in defaultstats, effect of A & D:

<combat>
<DamageIncrease>0.05</DamageIncrease>
<DamageIncreaseCap>3</DamageIncreaseCap>
<DamageDecrease>0.05</DamageDecrease>
<DamageDecreaseCap>0.1</DamageDecreaseCap>

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Second one is that by increasing/decreasing army initiative the hero is pushed backward in the ATB.

+10% initiative may not seem that much but when you have 7 creatures (some of which act twice or trice!) VS one hero acting once it is a lot.

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So what you are basically saying is that in your opinion generally heroes in this game don't get enough turns? Because this game is build on the idea of having many initiative modifiers which are equally available to all factions, so there isn't really a faction vs faction issue (leaving stronghold out of the equation for this question).

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lotihoti said:

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Most of this spells can be changed using defaultstat.xdb:

<RPForLevel1>500</RPForLevel1>
<RPForLevel2>800</RPForLevel2>
<RPForLevel3>1750</RPForLevel3>
<StartRP>0</StartRP>

<DamageAbsorbtionPerHeroSkill>
<Item>4</Item>
<Item>8</Item>
<Item>12</Item>
<Item>16</Item>
<Item>20</Item>
</DamageAbsorbtionPerHeroSkill>

-20% DMG for a skill is still a lot... Imagine with defence - you can still compensate a lot of incoming dmg...
With MMH5.5 your able to get ultimate rage (+500rage) with lvl 6(if your a bit lucky). Then your on rage lvl 2 and still farming for ressources. I wont call that balanced. Thats why i increased the required Points of lvl 2 rage to 800.
Another Point is: Rage lvl 3 gives stronghold creatures a lot power (orc chiefs and executors - 1 of them gets double strike - he hits 4 times then with his massacre ability and gets 200 rage each attack). 1700 is still a lot... but reachable.


<RPToArmyOnWarcryLevel1>10</RPToArmyOnWarcryLevel1>
<RPToArmyOnWarcryLevel2>20</RPToArmyOnWarcryLevel2>
<RPToArmyOnWarcryLevel3>30</RPToArmyOnWarcryLevel3>
<RallingCry_MoraleBonus>
<Base>1</Base>
<LevelDivisor>20</LevelDivisor>
<PerDividedLevel>1</PerDividedLevel>
3 Moral with lvl 40 is a LOT! Still compensaiting leadership, but better then actual 5 Moral at lvl 30!
</RallingCry_MoraleBonus>
<RallingCry_Duration>3</RallingCry_Duration>
<CallOfBlood_RPPerCasterLevel>4</CallOfBlood_RPPerCasterLevel>
<WordOfTheChief_ATBBonusBase>0.1</WordOfTheChief_ATBBonusBase>
<WordOfTheChief_ATBBonusPerCasterLevel>0.005</WordOfTheChief_ATBBonusPerCasterLevel>
<WordOfTheChief_RPBonus>20</WordOfTheChief_RPBonus>
<Battlecry_SpeedBonus>
<Base>1</Base>
<LevelDivisor>1</LevelDivisor>
<PerDividedLevel>0</PerDividedLevel>
1 Speed for all lvls + Attack is nice
</Battlecry_SpeedBonus>
<Battlecry_OffenceBonus>
<Base>1</Base>
<LevelDivisor>8</LevelDivisor>
<PerDividedLevel>1</PerDividedLevel>
</Battlecry_OffenceBonus>
6 Attack for a Mass Spell is slightly enough - for a non Magic faction(stronghold)
<ShoutOfMany_DamagePerCreatureInArmy>0.4</ShoutOfMany_DamagePerCreatureInArmy>
0.4 is way enough: Imagine you get a lot of goblins. You hit soon 1k creatures. And thats more then most of the spells do!
<ShoutOfMany_ShockwaveMoveTime>0.5</ShoutOfMany_ShockwaveMoveTime>

This are at least my values... I call them a bit more balanced then the original ones. Stronghold heroes nature is hard hitting, thats why i crippeled there war cries a bit...

And all my spells got this durations:
<duration>
<Item>
<Base>0</Base>
<PerPower>0.05</PerPower>
</Item>
With 20 Spellpower the spell lasts for 1 turn which is sufficient for a base power.
<Item>
<Base>0</Base>
<PerPower>0.075</PerPower>
</Item>
<Item>
<Base>0</Base>
<PerPower>0.1</PerPower>
</Item>
<Item>
<Base>0</Base>
<PerPower>0.125</PerPower>
</Item>
With 20 Spellpower the spell lasts for 2.5 turns which is good for a expert power - good because mass spells only take 0.5 ATB
</duration>

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