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dredknight
Honorable
Supreme Hero
disrupting the moding industry
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posted June 25, 2015 07:55 PM |
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Giving some thoughts on the last posts:
Growth: the BETA 2 setting is just perfect!
Not tested for small maps though. the big maps (impossible) are outrageous! I like them, real challenge.
Artifacts: I like that you get only small artis on starters and dwelling zones. It really make you think when fighting and picking up the 2-3 fights you are going to do this week - is it going to be a dwelling, resources/mines or that minor artifact which is really nice for my hero. Also great work with those little bonuses to the previously useless one!
I am currently playing EPIC map on PvP Sylvan vs Fortress and I am trying some amazing build. I will share with you battles and more info when we finish.
After that I will test this and the previous battle with the new INDEX.
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lotihoti
Famous Hero
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posted June 26, 2015 01:10 PM |
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Do you plan to implement some Caves (like demon Tower etc.) with ncf creatures (separate to install)?
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klosarmicko
Hired Hero
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posted June 27, 2015 01:02 AM |
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Some thoughts on campaing. I am playing the will of asha - necro on heroic.
It took me a lot hours to beat mission 2. Main enemy hero was so strong I had to attack him with my 2 suicide heros (puppet master + 7 stacks of 30 skeletons) before I could kill him with my main...
Now mission 3. I bought every monster from the day 1. From town and from all small buildings on the map.
How am I supposed to defeat this: 
I got full necro set also (which is the worst set ever, no enemy monster is gonna ever have bad moral, so the final effect is useless...)
In my opinion necros are the weakest of them all. These 175 champions could crush my whole army by themselves...
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magnomagus
Admirable
Legendary Hero
modding wizard
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posted June 27, 2015 11:27 AM |
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@loti:
It's too early for that it has not yet been implemented and thoroughly tested.
@klosarmicko:
That's an interesting question, puppet master the paladins, then frenzy the zealots?
According to my files, experience & resources and neutral stacks were actually a little more favorable to you then in TOE heroic. Technically that is a small bug i need to fix, but maybe I better not
Most important question, was this hero preset or did it build up all the way by herself to this and with how many towns? vs how many towns for you?
Also if morale is lowered from 5 to 3 it helps because now positive trigger chance is 30% instead of 50%
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Nordos
Known Hero
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posted June 27, 2015 04:47 PM |
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Please give Wulfstan a Ballista. In the missions, even though he has a Balliste related special, he would often go without the ballista for a long period, sometimes aquiring it only shortly before the end.
On a sidenote: Why do Engineers have such a high chance for leadership? They can't aquire the perk of letting War Machines aquire good morale ...
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klosarmicko
Hired Hero
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posted June 27, 2015 04:47 PM |
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magnomagus said:
@klosarmicko:
That's an interesting question, puppet master the paladins, then frenzy the zealots?
According to my files, experience & resources and neutral stacks were actually a little more favorable to you then in TOE heroic. Technically that is a small bug i need to fix, but maybe I better not
Most important question, was this hero preset or did it build up all the way by herself to this and with how many towns? vs how many towns for you?
Also if morale is lowered from 5 to 3 it helps because now positive trigger chance is 30% instead of 50%
1. There is no frenzy in campaign only puppet.
2. First move of their hero is to cast magic immunity on the puppeted creature.
3. When I puppet paladins they cant even kill 100 grifins ^^
4. I builded him up from the start. With this:
-expert enl
-expert dark
-advance nec
-advance log
-advace luck
I also have swift mind
Mission 3 starts with 1 town for me and 3 towns for him. Mine town is empty and his are all max upgraded except for angels, he cant build that.
I managed to capture 2 of his towns and to keep him from buying more monsters. But its no use, he still has 1 more town and he is just moving from 1 to other town I captured and recapturing them.
I can finish mission by capturing his main town and automaticly winning which i did, but thats somehow not fair. I just wanno try defeat him somehow...
5. About moral I know that and that is good. But I was talking about final effect 4/4 set. That one that lower att and def by 20% if the bad moral is triggered. Normal army has 3/4 positive moral and with this necro set there is no way its gonna be negative. So final effect was always useless for me...
6. also Pendant of Mastery doesnt work. I tried even restarting the game
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magnomagus
Admirable
Legendary Hero
modding wizard
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posted June 27, 2015 05:38 PM |
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If it is 1 vs 3 towns I'm not surprised the QAI has made this mission significantly more difficult.
EDIT2:  Necromantic Transformer
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6. also Pendant of Mastery doesnt work. I tried even restarting the game
Retested, it works, scripted effects are visible after closing the artifact slot screen.
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Please give Wulfstan a Ballista. In the missions, even though he has a Balliste related special, he would often go without the ballista for a long period, sometimes aquiring it only shortly before the end.
will look into this for campaigns, but in multiplayer: no
EDIT: ok easy to fix for campaign, thank you for pointing that out.
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On a sidenote: Why do Engineers have such a high chance for leadership? They can't aquire the perk of letting War Machines aquire good morale ...
because they are might heroes
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klosarmicko
Hired Hero
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posted June 27, 2015 06:32 PM |
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magnomagus said:
Retested, it works, scripted effects are visible after closing the artifact slot screen.
Maybe its bug in the campaign. Won't change stats for me
1. Is this text bug: ?
2.invisible hero?
You can see red cursor on the map but I cant attack him. You can see him on the mini map. He is weak and is going to attack my town. Ones he triggers the battle i can defeat him but on the map i cant do anything to him Mission 4 necro.
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klosarmicko
Hired Hero
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posted June 27, 2015 06:38 PM |
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magnomagus said:
EDIT2: Necromantic Transformer
No good. The map is like a line. And there are 4 towns on the line. So there is only 1 way for me to get to his town and vice versa. So he usualy kills my caravans or recaptures town in less then a week. Because of how the map is made, 80% of the time he has 2 towns at the end of the week. And there is no way he could be defeated with equal forces.
Necros worst nightmare- queen of light magic ^^
2. Can warlords learn prayer?
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dredknight
Honorable
Supreme Hero
disrupting the moding industry
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posted June 27, 2015 07:36 PM |
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klosarmicko said:
2. Can warlords learn prayer?
Just checked them all and there is no class named Warlord.
Basically every hero that can get leadership can get Prayer.
I personally think lorewise prayer should be disabled for Stronghold and Necromancers.
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magnomagus
Admirable
Legendary Hero
modding wizard
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posted June 27, 2015 07:42 PM |
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magnomagus
Admirable
Legendary Hero
modding wizard
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posted June 27, 2015 07:47 PM |
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I personally think lorewise prayer should be disabled for Stronghold and Necromancers.
Not possible, but for stronghold not a big deal, tribes do pray, Necromancers a bit silly, although according to Erwan they are buddhists, so it should be renamed to meditation for them, unfortunately that is not possible either.
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klosarmicko
Hired Hero
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posted June 27, 2015 09:54 PM |
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I meant stronghold hero ^^ sorry
Warlord just appeared in my head ^^
2. It says trice. I thought thats a bug
3.invisible hero- yea its Deleb. Its just that I was not able to see him on the map or attack him. I think thats just campaign bug.
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dredknight
Honorable
Supreme Hero
disrupting the moding industry
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posted June 27, 2015 10:05 PM |
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magnomagus
Admirable
Legendary Hero
modding wizard
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posted June 27, 2015 11:23 PM |
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2. It says trice. I thought thats a bug
3.invisible hero- yea its Deleb. Its just that I was not able to see him on the map or attack him. I think thats just campaign bug.
For some reason I suspected more than a typo
Looking through the map.xdb i cannot find an issue with deleb so far, the frenzy spell was activated btw, so bad luck you didn't get it.
@Dredknight:
Great!
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klosarmicko
Hired Hero
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posted June 28, 2015 09:19 AM |
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Oh man... I had like 5 necro towns in the first 3 missions and i never got blindess or frenzy...
Btw according to every page on internet its thrice ^^
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magnomagus
Admirable
Legendary Hero
modding wizard
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posted June 28, 2015 10:21 AM |
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klosarmicko
Hired Hero
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posted June 28, 2015 11:36 AM |
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magnomagus said:
I think I can add them to start bonus options to make the difficulty more bearable.
Thats ok, but I dont think it will change the output of the battles. Coz he is always gonna clear the spell from his monsters...
magnomagus said:
Also you can make screenshots by PrintScreen, open paint ctrl+v
1. Can't. In game ss are always black in paint. win 8.1 64 bit.
2. I am too lazy to minimize the game to take ss and then to enter full screen again
3. Even with razers ss option in razer synapse software, it makes and automaticly saves black shots...
like this: (first one is from the in game)
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Forsberg
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 28, 2015 11:46 AM |
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Edited by Forsberg at 11:47, 28 Jun 2015.
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magnomagus said:
this is a known unfixable issue from the default RMG
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OK
if you find only magic wands there must be something wrong, but probably just a random occurrence.
Not only wands but yesterday a lot of artifacts repeated. I also see a lot of them (overall), I remember in Heroes 3 artifacts were less often on map. Artifact should be rare IMHO - not one per quoter map but not so often like now.
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yes that's why they were severely overpowered and banned in multiplayer mostly. I did not make changes to the much better balanced TOE necromancy.
Good to know
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Yes the H5 adventure map is intentionally harder, you can activate quick-combat to keep up the speed. i did not make changes to this.
Yes for me it is waste of time for playing with poor stacks when having full army. Is there way to make quick combat via one click without having to go to the options?
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To me race-based factions make a lot more sense, also hydra was in h2 dungeon. In any case creating a whole new faction is an extreme amount of work.
For me real Heroes started with III series, thus I have that point of view.
For me personally Nival made weird things moving units from castles to other or changing units for castles - example Gargoyle's look in H5 is ridiculous, same to Nagas, called other in H5.
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You will have to use the turban tribunal for issues with HCs forum design.
Well this forum really needs an update. It looks time stopped in 1995 or so.
klosarmicko said:
3. @Forsberg ----- did you use original hero 5 exe to create a map? Not patched one 5.5. Coz the things you described happend to me also when i made few maps with 5.5 exe.
I use original maps "epic" added by devs of H5.5.
I would like to play multiplayer. I am noob so not rush in third week 
I prefer private LAN mode (Hamachi ect.).
Is there way to better understand skills ect of heroes? I have hero X. How do I know what is best for him? I have skill wheel but I do not know how to read this.
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magnomagus
Admirable
Legendary Hero
modding wizard
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posted June 28, 2015 12:32 PM |
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Thats ok, but I dont think it will change the output of the battles. Coz he is always gonna clear the spell from his monsters...
While having a magic hero it seems to me your current build lacks any measure to act more often than your might enemies.
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Not only wands but yesterday a lot of artifacts repeated. I also see a lot of them (overall), I remember in Heroes 3 artifacts were less often on map. Artifact should be rare IMHO - not one per quoter map but not so often like now.
If you ask a machine to generate random numbers between 1 and 10, it is possible it comes up with three times 5. This handicap cannot really be avoided in computer generated mapmaking. I already lowered the artifact density a little compared to the original generator, but couldn't go further because there wouldn't be enough monster placements in starting zones and generally the maps would become too empty. Duplicate crap should just be considered gold/exp, valuable artifacts are more rare. You can experiment with experience setting 4 in the ARMG to make maps with less but more valuable artifact placements, it does however not always work out well.
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For me personally Nival made weird things moving units from castles to other or changing units for castles - example Gargoyle's look in H5 is ridiculous, same to Nagas, called other in H5.
NWC did the same thing between H2/H3/H4, I once googled what gargoyles and rakhasas actually are and then it totally made sense this way and I'm very happy with them.
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