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dredknight
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disrupting the moding industry
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posted August 26, 2015 01:34 PM |
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magnomagus said:
I never thought they were overpowered, the only problem is the initiative boosts from artifacts are more valuable than the other possible effects.
Correct there are some that really could be a bit better.
Regarding the bug I didnt explain the situation correctly.
It is not END TURN adventure map issue.
This time it is on the battleground while we fight the battle against each other desync happens.
We tried multiple times today - change the place of the battle, tried autocombat from both sides. But it still happens. It is always near the end of the battle.
P.S. I have a hunch. My hero has Expert light all the way till Guardian Angel. May be the perk sucks in PvP? I will test later today.
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Nordos
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posted August 26, 2015 01:36 PM |
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Edited by Nordos at 14:44, 26 Aug 2015.
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Is there a Hertetic that starts with Combat?
That would enable him to aquire *Preperation and Dark Magic (Vampirism), something that works pretty well with the alternate Griffin Upgrade 
Its more or general idea to have some heroes having skills which aren't normally attainable by default, enabling more tactics and adding to diversity. Though it may be hard to balance
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ldongder
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posted August 26, 2015 02:06 PM |
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@Magno：
To perfect this project by vulenteering is not that effective , because it's very hard to do it by a few vulenteers who's techniques may not be good enough and who's priority may not be this project. But crowd funding may likely make a difference as the fund can attract more specialists to join the team.
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zmudziak22
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Heroes 3 Fan
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posted August 26, 2015 02:13 PM |
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I would like a Nival to share source code of Tribes of The East.
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verriker
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Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted August 26, 2015 02:17 PM |
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ldongder said:
@Magno：
To perfect this project by vulenteering is not that effective , because it's very hard to do it by a few vulenteers who's techniques may not be good enough and who's priority may not be this project. But crowd funding may likely make a difference as the fund can attract more specialists to join the team.
uh crowd funding of this project would be illegal dude, there is no license from Ubisaft to do that lol
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magnomagus
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posted August 26, 2015 02:38 PM |
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Is there a Hertetic that starts with Combat?
That would enable him to aquire Retribution and Dark Magic (Vampirism), something that works pretty well with the alternate Griffin Upgrade
You can play this tactic with laszlo and andreas
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I would like a Nival to share source code of Tribes of The East.
That would not even work actually, because Nival doesn't have the source code of the AI, only Quantomas has. Simultaneously Quantomas doesn't have the source code of the 3.1 RMG and LAN.
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ldongder
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posted August 26, 2015 02:46 PM |
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verriker said:
ldongder said:
@Magno：
To perfect this project by vulenteering is not that effective , because it's very hard to do it by a few vulenteers who's techniques may not be good enough and who's priority may not be this project. But crowd funding may likely make a difference as the fund can attract more specialists to join the team.
uh crowd funding of this project would be illegal dude, there is no license from Ubisaft to do that lol
I am wondering:
Is there possibility that Ubisoft would agree to the crowd funding campaign if the part of the fund goes to Ubisoft via a competition and negotiation ? And crowd funding without permission of Ubisoft is illegal forever as long as this franchise belongs to Ubisoft?
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dredknight
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Supreme Hero
disrupting the moding industry
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posted August 26, 2015 03:00 PM |
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Hey guys here is some info on the battle issue. We found the root.
Basically what happens is that there is some wierd desync in what both Applicatoins (mine and the other player one) have.
We did multiple battles and all of them couldnt finish due to desync.
At one point we found out that what one of us see is not what the other one do. For exmaple he hits my mages and then there are 14 left at his aside and 17 left at my side. We thought mages are the issue (specialization ??). But it was not the case then we realized that the stats on my hero are not the one the other player sees on the other side.
What I see is A13 D13 S27 K32 what he sees is A13 D12 S28 K32.
Then I tried the following - removed all artifacts and got into the battle. Same result - he sees one defense less and 1 sp more on my hero.
I have Expert enlightment i will try to unlearn it and test again. But this will happen tomorrow.
Regarding the crowdfunding idea this will be good to "buy" the code from Ubisoft if they own it. May be we can send them a letter to ask for the cost first.
One more thing - Swift Mind perk requirements are not the one pointed in the guide.
I could get it by having Eagle Eye only. The logistic perk is not required.
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magnomagus
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posted August 26, 2015 03:13 PM |
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Is there possibility that Ubisoft would agree to the crowd funding campaign if the part of the fund goes to Ubisoft via a competition and negotiation ? And crowd funding without permission of Ubisoft is illegal forever as long as this franchise belongs to Ubisoft?
There is a difference between commercial exploitation of a mod and paying people to do stuff for you. For example I could send a large pack of text files to a professional translator and say I give you X amount of money if you translate it all into french. That's not illegal.
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Regarding the crowdfunding idea this will be good to "buy" the code from Ubisoft if they own it. May be we can send them a letter to ask for the cost first.
I guess my previous post wasn't sufficiently clear: Ubisofts code is years behind in development in comparison to Quantomas code, so their code isn't even that interesting.
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I could get it by having Eagle Eye only. The logistic perk is not required.
With enlightenment nerfed this extra complexity could be dropped, it is chnaged in the manual as well.
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At one point we found out that what one of us see is not what the other one do. For exmaple he hits my mages and then there are 14 left at his aside and 17 left at my side. We thought mages are the issue (specialization ??). But it was not the case then we realized that the stats on my hero are not the one the other player sees on the other side.
This suggests you are having different game files for some reason, so unsynchronized installations.
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StevenAus
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posted August 26, 2015 04:00 PM |
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magnomagus said:
That would not even work actually, because Nival doesn't have the source code of the AI, only Quantomas has. Simultaneously Quantomas doesn't have the source code of the 3.1 RMG and LAN.
Does anyone have the source code for the 3.1 RMG and LAN?
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magnomagus
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Legendary Hero
modding wizard
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posted August 26, 2015 04:11 PM |
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zmudziak22
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Heroes 3 Fan
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posted August 26, 2015 08:30 PM |
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Hopefully not. They left game files easy to mod. Maybe some contact to Nival would be possible?
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dredknight
Honorable
Supreme Hero
disrupting the moding industry
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posted August 26, 2015 10:07 PM |
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xuxo
Responsible
Known Hero
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posted August 26, 2015 10:53 PM |
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It would be great, but I doubt k contracts allow Ubisoft to distribute the game code xDD still sold in GOG.
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zmudziak22
Supreme Hero
Heroes 3 Fan
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posted August 26, 2015 11:58 PM |
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Also heroes 5 can be bought on Steam.
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StevenAus
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 27, 2015 12:43 AM |
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Let's not assume that it can't be done - where there's a will, there's a way. And crowdfunding is definitely an option if necessary.
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ldongder
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posted August 27, 2015 02:05 AM |
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StevenAus said:
Let's not assume that it can't be done - where there's a will, there's a way. And crowdfunding is definitely an option if necessary.
Totally agree! We should try doing it.
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zmudziak22
Supreme Hero
Heroes 3 Fan
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posted August 27, 2015 10:52 AM |
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But look into Horn of the Abyss Expansion, is free made by Russians(HotA Crew), done by reverse engineering.
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StevenAus
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posted August 27, 2015 11:28 AM |
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And how long did that take? H5 is a lot newer than H3, and doesn't have the overwhelming popularity that H3 had and has. Also, H3 had lost source code for anything but RoE, so they had no choice. It is quite possible that all the source code that relates to H5 still exists.
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zmudziak22
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Heroes 3 Fan
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posted August 27, 2015 01:49 PM |
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We could ask Marzhin, if Ubisoft still have TOE Code. If we could rebuild Tribes of the East(like VCMI did to Heroes 3). The best choice is remove Initiative and return to standard battle system.
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