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articun
Supreme Hero
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posted July 03, 2015 02:00 PM |
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Edited by articun at 14:01, 03 Jul 2015.
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Future Factions
So, just to keep the conversation alive, i would like to discuss opinions as to what the next Faction of the game will be with sufficient justification.
P.S.: Please avoid one word comments and Ubisoft cursing etc. If you want to post, i can't stop you, but i'd like to make this a fine discussion. Thank you 
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted July 03, 2015 02:23 PM |
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Edited by kiryu133 at 15:01, 03 Jul 2015.
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Dwarftown (i refuse to call them Forretress. that name belongs to the lizardmen).
I'm kinda curious where they'd go with them, TBH. What creatures and abilities and designs they would get. I feel they would also work rather well against the other factions even if Haven has sort of taken over the turtling gameplay Dwarftown seem more fitted for (why, oh why does a defensive faction have the viking influences?)
I also really like the Valkyrie design, so that's something.
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted July 03, 2015 02:39 PM |
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Forge Faction
Core:
Zombie cyborgs, goblin shooters, policia with clubs
Elite:
Technomage, Stinger, Terminator (flying drone)
Champion:
Mechanical Dragon, Siege Tank (destroing walls and shooting area 2X2)
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted July 03, 2015 02:41 PM |
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kiryu133 said:
Dwarftown (i refuse to call them stronghold. that name belongs to the lizardmen).
Stronghold is a Barbarian (yes, barbarian, not just orc) town. 
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Mediczero
Famous Hero
Warlord of the sea
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posted July 03, 2015 02:55 PM |
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Well I suppose if I could come with something, I'll guess it would be my
more or less original faction, an insect based faction called Asylum!
That is the origin option, Sanctuary still an option...
Macron1 said:
Forge Faction
Core:
Zombie cyborgs, goblin shooters, policia with clubs
Elite:
Technomage, Stinger, Terminator (flying drone)
Champion:
Mechanical Dragon, Siege Tank (destroing walls and shooting area 2X2)
Seriously, I all for a forge faction, but it needs to be altered. And with altered, I mean scrapping the Sci-Fi part and actually make it make sense together with the other factions...
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articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted July 03, 2015 02:56 PM |
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@Macron 1
Unfortunately, i doubt we will ever see a cyborg or sci-fi faction of any kind as long as we are on Ashan. Now, if the universe somehow is allowed to expand and acknowledge other worlds, there might be hope.
Personally, i am also interested more in Sanctuary and Fortress, because i think that these are the two newer factions that have received the least love out of their developers. Fortress or Dwarvetown or whatever we might call them deserves a return to the franchise more than Inferno in my opinion. There is much potential to be utilized with Runecrafting racial ability, artifact building in their towns etc.
Sanctuary also deserves another look to their story. Story wise, we know way few about Dwarves or Nagas. So i would really like to learn more about them and for once see stories revolving around them and not humans or any interaction with humans.
So my reasoning for wanting Fortress and Sanctuary is because they have already been introduced but never expanded on. I believe they deserve to be explored better. And Heroes VII gives great setting for the dwarves as Dark Elves are present already in the game.
A side-note: I find that Troglodytes and Cabirs should be in Fortress and not in the Dungeon and Academy.
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MiniaAr
Hired Hero
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posted July 03, 2015 02:56 PM |
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Bastion: Lizardmen /Swamp town -> My personnal favorite of H3, I'd like to see them again. It's alright that Gnolls and Wyverns moved to Stronghold, they look better there. Articun/Minastir made a great work on what the faction could/should look like. (also Ashan-compatible).
Fortress: Dwarves /Mountain town -> They should get a second chance if they're not making the same mistake as last time: dwarves, dwarves, even more dwarves and then a giant Dwarf 
Sanctuary: Nagas / Water town -> I'd like to see a second try for them, as it was one of the good thing happening with H6, a new faction.
Free Cities is they can be made to work.
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articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted July 03, 2015 03:01 PM |
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@MiniaAr
Thank you for your kind words
For fortress i would prefer a Volcano town much like the Heroes V but without the snow. I'd prefer them to have either a scorched land terrain or a mountain terrain but their faction Town screen should be more of a volcanic mountain i guess.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted July 03, 2015 03:01 PM |
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Edited by kiryu133 at 15:03, 03 Jul 2015.
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Avonu said:
kiryu133 said:
Dwarftown (i refuse to call them stronghold. that name belongs to the lizardmen).
Stronghold is a Barbarian (yes, barbarian, not just orc) town.
i keep confusing them, aaaah!
Macron1 said:
Forge Faction
Core:
Zombie cyborgs, goblin shooters, policia with clubs
Elite:
Technomage, Stinger, Terminator (flying drone)
Champion:
Mechanical Dragon, Siege Tank (destroing walls and shooting area 2X2)
ok, you win. i want this.
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted July 03, 2015 03:09 PM |
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Night Elves town, Pandaren town and a Skaven town, please, lol
just kidding, I'd rather see a moon town where one of the three moons of Ashan invades Ashan with extraterrestrial life, and is all, like, aliens and crap lol
the race is moon elves, the heroes will be Astronaut and Astrologist, and we could have the LGM, clangers and moon dog for core, zerg, xenomorphs and werewolf in elite, and Moon Dragon and moon spirit on tier 7 lol
after infringing everybody's copyright and being torn apart by the fans, they will plan to spice up the lineup with UFOs in Heroes 8, but the game will be cancelled mid-development because of very low preorders, that's my vision and I'm sticking to it lol
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Datapack
Famous Hero
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posted July 03, 2015 03:10 PM |
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I want to see a faction dedicated to spiders... never mind.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted July 03, 2015 03:47 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 15:48, 03 Jul 2015.
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Between inferno, sanctuary and dwarves.. Probably sanctuary. I'd love a faction themed around outmaneuvering the opponent and controlling the flow of battle. Dwarves vs inferno is a toss up but at least one of the two should see the light of day. It would mostly depend on the racial and army synergy as I would enjoy strategically placed runes that affect the battlefield as much as a mix of destructive and saboteur gameplay.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted July 03, 2015 03:50 PM |
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Elvin said:
Between inferno, sanctuary and dwarves.. Probably Lizardmen Town
FTFY
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articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted July 03, 2015 03:56 PM |
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verriker said:
Night Elves town, Pandaren town and a Skaven town, please, lol
just kidding, I'd rather see a moon town where one of the three moons of Ashan invades Ashan with extraterrestrial life, and is all, like, aliens and crap lol
the race is moon elves, the heroes will be Astronaut and Astrologist, and we could have the LGM, clangers and moon dog for core, zerg, xenomorphs and werewolf in elite, and Moon Dragon and moon spirit on tier 7 lol
after infringing everybody's copyright and being torn apart by the fans, they will plan to spice up the lineup with UFOs in Heroes 8, but the game will be cancelled mid-development because of very low preorders, that's my vision and I'm sticking to it lol
Verriker don't tempt me to make such a town
Moon Elves have long been ignored in the fantasy franchise i think
And to help with the spider thing, maybe i will add a Moon Spider and a Moon Bare to the mix! And ofc we cannot forget the Champion!!!! Monty Pythons Murderous Bunny 
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articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted July 03, 2015 04:06 PM |
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Elvin said:
Between inferno, sanctuary and dwarves.. Probably sanctuary. I'd love a faction themed around outmaneuvering the opponent and controlling the flow of battle. Dwarves vs inferno is a toss up but at least one of the two should see the light of day. It would mostly depend on the racial and army synergy as I would enjoy strategically placed runes that affect the battlefield as much as a mix of destructive and saboteur gameplay.
I must admit Elvin though that Fortress is much more probable right now than Sanctuary. Being part of the first vote means, i believe, that the developers already had some drafts as to how they wanted the Faction to be. Sanctuary had no part at all in the voting which i find sad.
But at the same time, dwarves prove for a very interesting faction. Lineup-wise, it is hard to bring forth interesting non-dwarven units except the Dragon and Valkyrie, so i am curious as to how they intent to fill that up. As for the racial abilities and skills, runes prove to be very versatile because as you said, they can range from unit or artifact empowerment to battle or adventure map manipulation, even setting magic traps for enemies.
-In addition, Dwarves can be able to forge their own artifacts (maybe limited to weapons and/or armors but not accessories) that the player can customize to his/her liking. So that could in theory add much more to the faction and also to the game.
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TDL
Honorable
Supreme Hero
The weak suffer. I endure.
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posted July 03, 2015 04:18 PM |
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I'd rather they conceptualized some sort of lizardish town, which isn't too hard to do. They could be an offshoot of nagas (kensei face, two legs instead of naga snake body).
The problem is that I feel there should be a new town among the lineups, in spite of the lore restrictions. Also, Sylvan as an earth/poison user just doesn't cut it for me to be honest.
Out of the conventional batch, I'd pick inferno, which I actively vouched for in the initial votes. Not for campaign purposes of course, but I want efreeti back in any way or form. Also, I want a fast high-damage faction. Since we know we are not getting a spellbook for creatures, we aren't likely to get gifted in the same manner as we had with runic magic in h5. Hence, infernal gating is much easier to implement and it's much more random/chaotic. Heck, there could even be infernal magic or some spells which bring chaos/tie into gating (such as summoning stacks to displace enemy targets, for flanking, etc.)
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cleglaw
Famous Hero
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posted July 03, 2015 04:20 PM |
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inferno.
yeah i know HC members dont like them, but still, inferno for sure. those guys are a must have.
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alexine
Known Hero
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posted July 03, 2015 04:28 PM |
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Inferno must return...or maybe some new faction of demons ? Mutants or something, I like that kind of stuff
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted July 03, 2015 10:31 PM |
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Edited by Maurice at 22:33, 03 Jul 2015.
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Macron1 said:
Forge Faction
Core:
Zombie cyborgs, goblin shooters, policia with clubs
Elite:
Technomage, Stinger, Terminator (flying drone)
Champion:
Mechanical Dragon, Siege Tank (destroing walls and shooting area 2X2)
I would go for a steampunk version. Since they've been leaning on WoW a lot already, they might as well draw good examples from that game and be inspired by it.
I'd make the units do more damage than their counterparts in other factions, but like what happens with the Goblins in WoW, they have a fair chance their creations blow up in their faces and actually damage themselves. Units armed with a blunderbuss, a steam tank, a flying machine with bombs it can drop (but may not be entirely accurate), a crazed zealot with a nuclear fallout area as triggered ability, damaging itself as well as units around it (the upgrade exploding in a miniature nuclear explosion on death), etc ...
Let the units in that faction act like crazed maniacs, pyromancers who are all convinced of their own creations that they're near-suicidal in their application.
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted July 03, 2015 10:44 PM |
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I would like a steampunk themed faction but I would not like a bunch of mindless cyborgs, suicide units and the like.
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