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artu
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posted July 17, 2015 07:18 AM
Edited by artu at 07:19, 17 Jul 2015.

Feral Cats of Australia

Okay, so what do you make of this? Looks like the feral cats in Australia, the run-to-wilderness grandchildren of the domestic cats carried around the 19th century by European settlers have gotten quite larger over some generations in a few centuries. They have no natural rivals there, especially after the Dingo population was reduced for very similar reasons. (It's basically the dog version of the same story.) So now, cats populated greatly and posses immediate threat to many of the original wild life in the continent, causing hundreds of species to go extinct year by year. In return, the Australian government decides to mass terminate them in millions.

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posted July 17, 2015 08:03 AM

It's really not that big. It's the size of a large house cat, nothing more. Don't compare its size to the hunter, compare its size to the hunter's fist or the rifle on the ground.
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posted July 17, 2015 08:13 AM

exterminate exterminate

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posted July 17, 2015 08:25 AM
Edited by blizzardboy at 08:31, 17 Jul 2015.

Geny said:
It's really not that big. It's the size of a large house cat, nothing more. Don't compare its size to the hunter, compare its size to the hunter's fist or the rifle on the ground.


They're larger than your average domestic cat and probably the equivalent to a red fox. They have a lot of invasive potential, similar to raccoons spreading into central Europe.


Domestic cats are kind of unique among domestic animals because they weren't actually domesticated by humans; cats domesticated themselves as they lived in multi-generational immediate proximity to early human civilization. If you wanted to really stretch your terminology, you might say it is a symbiotic pairing: cats get food & protection, and humans get fluffiness and cuteness. If these feral cats are close descendents to domestic cats, they're still going to more easily "warm-up" to humans if the opportunity is there. It's just the fact that they live in the wilderness as opposed to alleyways.

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posted July 17, 2015 08:54 AM

Geny said:
It's really not that big. It's the size of a large house cat, nothing more. Don't compare its size to the hunter, compare its size to the hunter's fist or the rifle on the ground.

Okay, while I do agree that photo has a bit of an optic illusion, many indeed got quite bigger over generations, some are even said to scare off the dingos in previous stuff I read. Here's a more accurate picture to give you an idea, they are not tigers but they are not Garfield either:


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posted July 17, 2015 11:43 AM

artu said:
Geny said:
It's really not that big. It's the size of a large house cat, nothing more. Don't compare its size to the hunter, compare its size to the hunter's fist or the rifle on the ground.




That smile!

Seriously, though, couldn't the other creatures adapt to these cats? Surely these other animals are tougher and above them.

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posted July 17, 2015 12:00 PM

cats is a type of animal that hasn't existed in Australia and brings adaptations that other animals does not have an answer for. True, they could adapt for it but that would take thousands of years and species.

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posted July 17, 2015 06:12 PM
Edited by artu at 18:24, 17 Jul 2015.

Exactly, under normal circumstances, species around an area evolve gradually developing skills and specialties against one another over time, as the predators get sharper teeth and bigger claws etc, just like that, prey with faster legs, better eyesight, better stamina, bigger horns and so on, have better chance to pass their genes to the next generation. All of this happens mutually with very slight modifications accumulating through hundreds of generations.

When a predator specie is artificially transported to a new area with different ecology and prey defenseless to its specialties though, it creates an impact like the horse riding Spanish with their cannonballs and musket rifles, fighting the barefoot Aztec spear-hunters. (Actually, even in that case, biology was the real killer. Most natives died because of bacteria the Europeans had gotten immune to over thousands of years, living with domestic animals of Eurasia.)  
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posted July 17, 2015 06:44 PM

Better get rid of them. Given it is in Australia, they might simply start developing a deadly venomous bite anytime soon.
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posted July 17, 2015 06:51 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 18:57, 17 Jul 2015.

Not hardly. New Zealand possesses the world's most retarded animal:





It wouldn't take much for species outside of the Oceanic continental region to upset the local animal ecology. They're... uhhh... "special". This thing would have been sent through an animal's meat grinding maw about 50 times over if it lived anywhere in the Americas, Eurasia, or Africa. New Zealand has a unique environment for supporting mentally retarded lifeforms.

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posted July 17, 2015 06:59 PM

PandaTar said:
Better get rid of them. Given it is in Australia, they might simply start developing a deadly venomous bite anytime soon.


LOL, man, that's so true. that continent is one i'd never visit myself. that's a dangerous place.

as for the cats, i just have to shake my head at people again. if you ask me, after they exterminate the poor kitties before they further upset the balance of the environment they've come to call home, exterminate the humans next. at least a bunch of cats aren't going to build multiple factories that pollute the land, sea, and air; or cut trees down by the thousands each year, or produce garbage at a rate that the environment of the whole world can't handle anymore, or eat more food and drink more water and use more resources than they provide. cats would actually do less damage, if they wholly replaced humans.

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posted July 17, 2015 08:53 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 21:14, 17 Jul 2015.

I think it goes without saying that somebody should carpet bomb & invade Australia and get them to stop massacring kittens. I didn't really mention it because it just seems like common sense. The newly developed & modernized Indonesian Navy could use the experience on somebody weak and unimportant before they start having confrontations with China. They just need to mention kittens and nobody on the outside with a sliver of a heart will interfere with their liberation of wild kittens. I never liked the name "Sydney" anyway. It sounds like the name of a trailer park teenage blonde girl with two kids. Seriously, it's a horrible name. They just need to keep the opera house because it would be sad if a famous building in Finding Nemo were to be destroyed.
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posted July 17, 2015 09:11 PM
Edited by Ghost at 16:19, 18 Jul 2015.

No Australia but the Australasia ie. Notogaea, when there have own form of life and the formed area. In Australia have different types of native. A man brought a dog to Australia, and later it became wild animals, Dingo. Special isn't that man grow a wolf, and later it turned into a dog. We can look at Tasmanian wolf. It could be the reasons for the tiger quoll.

Kiwi isn't undeveloped species, because there are emu, little penguin or had been the giant moa, where was a giant eagle was able to eat people. We destroyed the myth of the eagle's threats. The kakapo is also an interesting bird species.

They don't know how develop to the meat industry

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posted July 17, 2015 10:13 PM

idk, guys with rifles posting next to an animal carcass make my stomach turn.

Disgusting. We're supposed to be the pinnacle of Earth's evolution, and that just downgrades us to a pathetic ape-like joke.
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posted July 17, 2015 10:44 PM

Doomforge said:
idk, guys with rifles posting next to an animal carcass make my stomach turn.

Disgusting. We're supposed to be the pinnacle of Earth's evolution, and that just downgrades us to a pathetic ape-like joke.


Hey, it was the human's mistake to set cats into the wild. Now they have to take care of the mess someone else made, else more (endangered) animals would be dead.

Besides, who set the dogs cats loose?

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posted July 17, 2015 11:07 PM
Edited by Ebonheart at 23:12, 17 Jul 2015.

Poor cats.
It is understandable though seeing how they can grow more adverse in the long run, perhaps even towards humans who live there. Still posing like that is a bit cheeky.
What's even more disturbing are the methods to be used for hunting them. Using poison...do it quickly. If something must die then at least make it quick.

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posted July 18, 2015 07:27 AM

I don't see the bloody point.
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posted July 18, 2015 10:25 AM

EnergyZ said:
Besides, who set the dogs cats loose?

They may have not set free. Maybe a group of cats brought by Englishmen just walked out of their compounds and never returned. You know what cats are like.

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posted July 18, 2015 11:58 AM

off-topic/

i say we turn australia into a prison farm for all the idiots/snows/snowes of the world. you could televise dropping people like me in, just like in that movie with ray liotta(i forget the movie), only a crystal-lake version of it, with me playing jason. the ratings would be magnificent. and so would the bloodshed.

of course, i'd get to pick my weapons. and i'd get unlimited fire support, in case i'm overrun.

maybe they could put me in an advanced stealth cloaking suit that provided me with superhuman strength/reflexes/abilities, and as an added bonus, alerted me to nearby natural dangers. that would be cool. of course, the people watching the boob tube could see me. they'd have special glasses made specifically for the show.


world? make it happen. stat.

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posted July 18, 2015 12:06 PM
Edited by Doomforge at 12:06, 18 Jul 2015.

EnergyZ said:
Hey, it was the human's mistake to set cats into the wild. Now they have to take care of the mess someone else made, else more (endangered) animals would be dead.

Besides, who set the dogs cats loose?


It's not the cat issue I'm talking about - it's more about the mental state of a person that shoots selfies with a rifle and animal carcass in hands.
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