kiryu133 said:

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First of all, Faketress need to move away from nordic/norse styles. While It's certainly a cool aesthetic it does not suit a defensive faction. I'd say give that to stronghold or Rampart. Maybe have faketress be more Mesopotamian or even Egyptian style? Big walls and statues along with robust, heavy buildings.

Sanctuary needs to be more subdued and not "super samuraiX90000" or some snow. It's way too over the top. Tone it down and add other influences as well. Personally i would like them moving to a swamp and being Mayan, Inca and Aztec and turn into the true fortress with less nagas and add lizardmen and several wild beasts.

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kiryu133 said:

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I'm thinking Faketress with buildings like these(except snowy and without the culpure) and general unit armament looking like this

would work really well.

While statues and music and such can stay about the same, having a faction so heavily focused on turtling, defensive siege be primarily (and only) viking themed (especially in architecture) makes absolutely no sense to me. That should be reserved for factions that are more offensively minded or at least not those who prefer hiding behind thick walls. Particularly Stronghold and Rampart, Stronghold because the whole "barbarian" vibe would fit very well and Rampart due to viking designs looking very natural. Tell me this wouldn't look fantastic for a nature town.

And a ring fortress would work so much better with stronghold/rampart too.


Anyway, I'v already told people what my preferred ideas are (here. Am particularly proud over fortress) even though some of them are kind of out of the question, like cyber-preserve and non-medieval-Europe haven. In general, those are the directions I'd like the factions to take.

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Rakshasa92 said:

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I dislike putting all creatures from one mythology into one town.

HATE that only the sanctuary can have Japanese monsters and Dungeon can have only Greek monsters.

That destroys the possibility for many cool creatures in there.

I'm all for a good mixture, just forget their earth-roots, this is a game-world not the real world.

I hate the Naga with all my heart, the only place I like Naga is in Dungeons and Dragons strangely, in the real myth I dislike them beyond anything else.

Together with Hupia and Hippogriff, Naga are among my most hated creatures of mythology, probably warcraft helped me with that.

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Rakshasa92 said:

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Naga's only got popular because of Warcraft.

In in the myth they are just chaotic serpent shapehifters that can take any form they desire, not even coming close to the awesomness of other snake creatures.

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Mediczero said:

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Rakshasa92 said:

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Naga's only got popular because of Warcraft.

In in the myth they are just chaotic serpent shapehifters that can take any form they desire, not even coming close to the awesomness of other snake creatures.

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In fact, that sounds pretty cool, though I prefers the more mordern version. I disagree that most other snake creatures are more awesome, most of the are just giant snakes.

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Rakshasa92 said:

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Mediczero said:

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Rakshasa92 said:

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Naga's only got popular because of Warcraft.

In in the myth they are just chaotic serpent shapehifters that can take any form they desire, not even coming close to the awesomness of other snake creatures.

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In fact, that sounds pretty cool, though I prefers the more mordern version. I disagree that most other snake creatures are more awesome, most of the are just giant snakes.

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Uhm, you are American? Only Americans like Jean Grey/Expodus monsters that make all other creatures useless. Naga's have all the forms and all the powers, no need for any other creatures anymore, they ruin Doppelgangers and Baldanders, together with their mythology brothers, I HATE chaotic shapeshifters that can take any form (spare for Doppelganger and Baldanders which makes sense) such as Hupia, Al, Vila, Naga, Most HIndu monsters, Sarkany, Ala/Hala and such boring all-shapeshifters. They ruin other monsters, just like Jean Grey ruins many other x-men and villians which share her endless abilities and powers, BORING.

There are much better snake monsters out there.

Dipsa, which poison makes you so thirsty that you drink your own blood in the end when you go without water, or you drink yourself to death on actual water, drowining in your own thirds.

Seps, with poison so vile it will turn you into a pool of acid, slowly disintegrating into nothing but vile acid bile.

Haermorrhois, which poison will make you sweat blood, eventually sweating all the blood from your body though pores.

Boitata, they can see the lives of everything they have eaten and they are anaconda's on blue or red fire.

Lamia, Medusa, Basilisk, Hvidslangen, so much better snakes than Naga's.

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Rakshasa92 said:

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I dislike putting all creatures from one mythology into one town.

HATE that only the sanctuary can have Japanese monsters and Dungeon can have only Greek monsters.

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Rakshasa92 said:

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I know, but some people go berserk if you put a Valkyrie outside of a norse-based town, I find that stupid.

Also which Naga entry did you read? There are like 20.000 types of Naga's in Hindu mythology alone, so that makes them chaotic shapeshifters.

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kiryu133 said:

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The weirdest one to really decide is probably Dungeon. Greco-roman works, but feels a tad weird underground and above ground it only works for select dwellings (gorgon, argos). generally, I think the H3 aesthetics work the best. But it's mostly the colours. rich, earthy browns n' grays primarily with small specks of warmth. No real source of architecture.

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Mediczero said:

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because I do quite like the idea of having Dark Elves in dungeon.

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kiryu133 said:

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I think boring or at the very least functionality over form is a good direction for Dungeon, hence why I find H3 to work the best. It's not pretty nor does it really catch your eye but it does make sense for a subterranean faction to not focus much or at all upon trivial beautification. H5 was ok in general direction however I hated it (together with most H5 towns) since all buildings were the same: stalactites with some statue on haphazardly put around in an empty space. H6 was terrible for having too much snow in the way of spikes, detailing and light sources. It couldn't make up its damn mind!

anyway, kinda dull is a good choice for dungeon. If they're underground that is. otherwise I'm not sure. H2 kinda works in that case though so does H3 with some minor changes.

Mediczero said:

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because I do quite like the idea of having Dark Elves in dungeon.

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Let us never speak of this again

If Dark elves are too be in dungeon it can NOT be the dominant race. Dungeon should be a faction without a dominant race but rather several races all vying for power, whether they be humans, gorgon or Minotaur.

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kiryu133 said:

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Viking/Hun/mongol stronghold! Norse architecture and some creatures (trolls for example) with some more standard fantasy barbarian forces and locations. Mongol heroes and culture. I think that could be a good mix.

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