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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted September 04, 2015 01:51 PM |
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Poll Question:
Heroes VII - a game for 2015?
I am wondering, is Heroes VII a game for its time?
If one compares the games for the time they were made, it is obvious Heroes 3 and 5 take the lead. Heroes 1 was still in the core, while Heroes 2 improved gameplay and graphics from Heroes 1. Heroes 4 still had good gameplay, but the gamepplay differs a lot from other Heroes. (Guess that is why the story is off the charts.) Heroes 6, as you can see, has improved graphics, but the gameplay staggered a lot.
From my opinion, Heroes VI failed to be the game for its time. I am aware the devs claim games these days need more money and time for development, and I agree, even with the claim that they want to appeal other people's standards (probably because of this new approach of graphics over gameplay).
So, now that you have experienced the second beta, and taking the entire in consideration [bugs (though not all of them have been fixed yet], gameplay, graphics, story (best to wait until the vanilla)], do you think Heroes VII is a good (or bad) game for 2015?
If you don't want to vote yet, then you could wait until the vanilla is released.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted September 04, 2015 02:03 PM |
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It is a game of its time but its publisher. Ubi has no faith in Heroes not the genre, meaning much gets cut, however they are mislead or just stupid.
It could be a great game if they cared, but they do not.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted September 04, 2015 03:26 PM |
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I made my statement clear. No. Not anymore. There's a place for these games on the market, but not on its very top.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted September 04, 2015 03:43 PM |
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Dave_Jame said:
I made my statement clear. No. Not anymore. There's a place for these games on the market, but not on its very top.
So what you are saying it is a game for, say, 2010?
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted September 04, 2015 04:03 PM |
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IMO Team Erwin and Limbic probably have plenty of money to create a great TBS but are just using it incompetently,
I think the crap "TBS is a dead genre and we get no budget" excuse would have been gotten away with a few years ago, but today it is nothing but a moronic and tired excuse because Kickstarter has proven what a rancid lie it is lol
if we are routinely able to get games like Massive Chalice, The Banner Saga, War of the Overworld etc made for under $1m then whining about low budgets will not really fly any more from a rich multinational publisher with a billion dollars lol
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted September 04, 2015 05:15 PM |
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EnergyZ said:
Dave_Jame said:
I made my statement clear. No. Not anymore. There's a place for these games on the market, but not on its very top.
So what you are saying it is a game for, say, 2010?
2005 aprox.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted September 04, 2015 08:49 PM |
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verriker said:
IMO Team Erwin and Limbic probably have plenty of money to create a great TBS but are just using it incompetently,
I think the crap "TBS is a dead genre and we get no budget" excuse would have been gotten away with a few years ago, but today it is nothing but a moronic and tired excuse because Kickstarter has proven what a rancid lie it is lol
I thought Ubi gave them some cash. But it wouldn't be that much, since it is a franchise they just "bought rights away from".
Or the reason just lies in profit from MMX and H6, considering they are just "shadows of Might & Magic series".
But yeah, they could at least launch a Kickstarter. But, wouldn't people be afraid, fearing where the money may actually go into?
So I doubt it is all black and white.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 04, 2015 09:15 PM |
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I wouldn't exactly call it a 2015 game.
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Manta
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 05, 2015 05:44 AM |
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Edited by Manta at 05:46, 05 Sep 2015.
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I'd call it a 2015 game for sure, despite all the flaws it has...I'm still confident this game will succeed
Though, its not my favorite heroes game...My favorite heroes game is Heroes 2, and likely will always be.
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Danny
Famous Hero
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posted September 05, 2015 07:19 AM |
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Dave_Jame said:
EnergyZ said:
Dave_Jame said:
I made my statement clear. No. Not anymore. There's a place for these games on the market, but not on its very top.
So what you are saying it is a game for, say, 2010?
2005 aprox.
Does seem like it. Town screens are 1990s though.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted September 05, 2015 01:18 PM |
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Danny said:
Dave_Jame said:
EnergyZ said:
Dave_Jame said:
I made my statement clear. No. Not anymore. There's a place for these games on the market, but not on its very top.
So what you are saying it is a game for, say, 2010?
2005 aprox.
Does seem like it. Town screens are 1990s though.
Yeah, that's what you get when devs say "townscreens are unimportant".
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 05, 2015 01:31 PM |
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Karnatak
Tavern Dweller
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posted September 07, 2015 01:53 PM |
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EnergyZ said:
I am wondering, is Heroes VII a game for its time?
If one compares the games for the time they were made, it is obvious Heroes 3 and 5 take the lead. Heroes 1 was still in the core, while Heroes 2 improved gameplay and graphics from Heroes 1. Heroes 4 still had good gameplay, but the gamepplay differs a lot from other Heroes. (Guess that is why the story is off the charts.) Heroes 6, as you can see, has improved graphics, but the gameplay staggered a lot.
From my opinion, Heroes VI failed to be the game for its time. I am aware the devs claim games these days need more money and time for development, and I agree, even with the claim that they want to appeal other people's standards (probably because of this new approach of graphics over gameplay).
So, now that you have experienced the second beta, and taking the entire in consideration [bugs (though not all of them have been fixed yet], gameplay, graphics, story (best to wait until the vanilla)], do you think Heroes VII is a good (or bad) game for 2015?
If you don't want to vote yet, then you could wait until the vanilla is released.
Yes, I agree. I lost my interest in Heroes6 within 1 year. Am now still playing Heroes5. And the graphics of 7 not really my taste.
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bitmaid
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 09, 2015 08:42 AM |
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EnergyZ said:
I am wondering, is Heroes VII a game for its time?
Thing is, this isn't the *time* of TBS, which is sad. When there are not many games of its kind on the market, the only one/few lack motivation/incentive to innovate.
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Doomhammer
Known Hero
Smasher of pasties
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posted September 09, 2015 08:58 AM |
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A game for 2015...probably.
As good as it should be....probably not.
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The_Green_drag
Supreme Hero
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posted September 09, 2015 03:34 PM |
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I don't really understand what the OP is trying to say. Is 2015 deemed the year of epic gaming? New games come out all the time that suck so what does a game worthy of 2015 mean beyond the game's graphics?
Its a fun game and It's got good graphics imo, and it's coming out in 2015...so yea....
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted September 09, 2015 03:35 PM |
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The_Green_drag said:
I don't really understand what the OP is trying to say. Is 2015 deemed the year of epic gaming? New games come out all the time that suck so what does a game worthy of 2015 mean beyond the game's graphics?
Its a fun game and It's got good graphics imo, so yea...2015....
It is meant if the entire game is suited for 2015. This means if the game follows the trends of the other games and retains its "original value", so to speak.
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The_Green_drag
Supreme Hero
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posted September 09, 2015 03:50 PM |
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So is it a worthy successor to the past games as well as keeping up to date with software improvements? To that I would say only time will tell. Heroes is a game that should shine in the long run with #replayability
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