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Thread: The right mod for me
Pollo2002
Pollo2002


Famous Hero
posted September 24, 2015 10:51 PM
Edited by Pollo2002 at 22:58, 24 Sep 2015.

The right mod for me

After years of no heroes, i Decided to come back to heroes and start playing single player RNG maps. I never played singleplayer in the past, but Im researching good strategy games to play singleplayer and thought heroes may be one.
So I want to use mods, but i dont want new creatures features etc.
So why i want mods?
Because I want higher resolutions but more important better interface
I know late mods have a lot of ways to make unit transfer, split, etc easier with hotkeys extra buttons, more information, etc.

So I just want to play Classic heroes 3 Shadow, but i want my life to be easier with higher resolution to see more of the map and all the hotkeys and buttons for an easier experience. If there is a mod that makes more balanced or interesting RNG maps for singleplayer.

So, whatīs for me, and what isnīt for me?
What should install? with all this ERA, WOG, PHOENIX, TOURNAMENT Edition, FORGE, ABYSS, and who knows what and what nots im confused, and most seem to bring a lot of NEW stuff, i have 0 interest with.

The only part that may interest that modifies the game , as an option a mode that somehow changes the magic system in anwyay, I always felt the magic system to be the weakest part of heroes 3 I dislike how completly random magic guilds, how overpowered expert magic is, and  I dislike how useless spellpower is for anything that isnt damage spells. so if a mod does play with that, im interested to hear about

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frostymuaddib
frostymuaddib


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posted September 24, 2015 11:16 PM

Pollo2002 said:
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So I want to use mods, but i dont want new creatures features etc.
So why i want mods?
Because I want higher resolutions but more important better interface
I know late mods have a lot of ways to make unit transfer, split, etc easier with hotkeys extra buttons, more information, etc.

So I just want to play Classic heroes 3 Shadow, but i want my life to be easier with higher resolution to see more of the map and all the hotkeys and buttons for an easier experience. If there is a mod that makes more balanced or interesting RNG maps for singleplayer.


Heroes 3 HD mod is a thing for you. It enhances the game greatly (interface, resolution, bug-fixes), but you can still play Shadow of Death. Although, I suggest installing Horn of the Abyss mod. It preserves original Heroes 3 gameplay, adds new town, plenty of map objects and it has some balance changes. Even if you install HotA, you will be able to play classic heroes 3.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted September 24, 2015 11:22 PM

What about you start to read what each of those mods proposes, one by one, then figure out what to pick and what to skip? Because the "I don't want changes" but "I want magic system better" are antonyms, you know.
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Pollo2002
Pollo2002


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posted September 24, 2015 11:34 PM
Edited by Pollo2002 at 23:39, 24 Sep 2015.

Maybe to someone wet in this community its an easy thing salmander.
But for someone new the amount of mods is daunting, i did see what each mod does I did spend a few hours now watching all the new mods, and the list never ends.
But that is the problem, every mod that does something i like, it does 10 things I do not.

Yes, I want IMPROVEMENTS to the game, but i donīt want ADDITIONS to the game.
Now you may see it as similar but i do not. I like heroes as a strategy deep game, not as a simulation experience.
Most mods around seem happy to add more creatures, more towns, or just add features that I feel heroes do not need to be a deeper game. (units that gain levels or commanders, and who knows what)
If anything i feel heroes 3 has too many things, too many resources, too many abilities, too many artifacts. I would be happy to find a mod which goals is to simplify , streamline and remove anything unnecessary to Heroes 3, but given the tendency of the goals of most mods around i dont even ask because i dont even have the hope.
If I get hooked i may make myself my own streamlined mod, I did a lot of scripts in the past (so I have experience with ERM). But after more than 6 years of not touching heroes i want an easy comeback, exploring singleplayer heroes 3, something I never did before.

However, I feel the magic system of heroes 3, was flawed.
I donīt want MORE spells, if anything i want less.
If someone remade the magic system, so there is less luck involved in how one get the spells or just balance how spell works so Expert magic is op and spellpower underpower, im interested, because its a balance change, not just a Add more change.
In fact one of the reasons i left heroes is that When I wanted to do such magic mod, i find out that the change I wanted to make to the magic system, were not possible at the time, and Actually decided VCMI project to finish to continue with my mod. I didnt thought VCMI project would last that long, in the meantime, My HD fried and i lost all my mods with them, oh yes, i had online backup in megaupload...remember megaupload?

Summary:
- I did read what most mods do after hours, but most of the time the changes are not detailed unless i download the mod and read the changelog, i spent 3 hours just investigating the mods and reading the summaries. If i go read everychangelog that could take days. I hoped someone more wet in the community could help me to streamline my comeback experience.
I want to play Shadow of death random maps singleplayer with all the ease of life features I can get.

-At least for now I want to try how shadow of death singleplayer experience is in Random generated maps, but after A while I may be interested in a change to the magic system, as I never liked the magic system of heroes 3.

EDIT: Oh also if there are mods that make the RMG better, surely im interested,

Btw frost, thanks for the hd recommendation.

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Salamandre
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Wog refugee
posted September 24, 2015 11:43 PM

Well, there ARE mods changing the way the magic works, but surely they might add one or another thing you don't want. Then there are mods simplifying the game, but they might add one thing you wouldn't like neither. Because when people start modding, they don't ask Pollo what are his exact preferences, so maybe for Pollo -who has 0 interest in mods additions- the best way to please himself is to start modding, himself.
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Pollo2002
Pollo2002


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posted September 25, 2015 12:28 AM

You are confusing two different requests, the first is Classic HOMM3 with updated interface, which for what im reading, HOmm3 HD is exactly that.

So we are good there.
though its lacking a few interface features i saw somewhere else , like having a bar at the top of combat to easily see the order of combat.

But overall it seems HD mod did exactly that, i thought it only allowed higher resolutions, so its great and exactly what i was looking for.

Beyond that, I may be interested in a mod that modifies the magic system, if it has OTHER stuff that i dont care, then fine, I can extract the scripts i like and make my own mod.

These are two different request, the first was "a mod to play NOW classic h3 with upgraded interface" Which it seems HD version does for the most part

and the other was "im intersted in mods that modify the magic system" for future reference.


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