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Thread: [Official Thread] VCMI Mod Design Team This thread is 21 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 ... 10 ... 17 18 19 20 21 · «PREV / NEXT»
Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
posted January 09, 2018 09:14 PM

Perhaps without the green, but keeping the red? A bit of contrast with the rest of the lineup is nice, but I think the green is a tad too much.

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Ancientdruids
Ancientdruids


Known Hero
BEware THe DRuids
posted January 09, 2018 09:44 PM

I for one welcome the change
The previous snake was too similar to the Roc or the Behemoth. The green feathers make him pop out more and fit the name of the "winged serpent" better.

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fred79
fred79


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
SCOURGE OF THE H-SEA
posted January 09, 2018 09:44 PM

i like how the coloring is more subtle in this one:



, but i agree with maurice on the green(it looks out of place), if you guys are moving in favor of more color. the red(from the more colorful new version) should at least be toned down, though. especially on the headdress(i forget what it's called) of the upgrade. the upgrade pictured above was perfect in that regard. my 3rd cent on it.

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FfuzzyLogik
FfuzzyLogik


Adventuring Hero
posted January 09, 2018 09:45 PM
Edited by FfuzzyLogik at 21:47, 09 Jan 2018.

Maurice said:
Perhaps without the green, but keeping the red? A bit of contrast with the rest of the lineup is nice, but I think the green is a tad too much.
I personnaly like the green on there. Its not "not according" with goblins, orks or ogres ?
I find this creature absolutely magnificent ! Very nice work ! But with no "more colours" I find it very beautiful too. You may distribute both and let players choose the one they prefer ?
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fred79
fred79


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
SCOURGE OF THE H-SEA
posted January 09, 2018 09:47 PM

no, just that the green's more fortress-faction colored(yellowish green, instead of darker green).

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Mistrz
Mistrz


Hired Hero
posted January 09, 2018 09:59 PM

I like new colors. Not over the top and I like green, it in line with color of orks. Goid job.

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Lord_Immortal
Lord_Immortal


Famous Hero
posted January 11, 2018 09:38 PM

Witchking said:
We try upgrade color:



I like this version more. Seems perfect to me with the lineup in general.

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Winston
Winston


Adventuring Hero
posted January 12, 2018 12:42 AM

fred79 said:
i like how the coloring is more subtle in this one:



, but i agree with maurice on the green(it looks out of place), if you guys are moving in favor of more color. the red(from the more colorful new version) should at least be toned down, though. especially on the headdress(i forget what it's called) of the upgrade. the upgrade pictured above was perfect in that regard. my 3rd cent on it.


I like this version more as well, the colors are more natural and faded to fit in with the stronghold color palette. The snake looks amazing by the way.

Does it replace cyclops? Where did he go then?

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acidchalk
acidchalk


Promising
Known Hero
posted January 12, 2018 06:37 AM

You've really nailed their art style, it's quite impressive and fits into the game very nicely.

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Nephretes
Nephretes


Promising
Known Hero
posted January 12, 2018 09:23 PM

Quote:
Does it replace cyclops? Where did he go then?
I am already tired of explaining what the project is all about. Please check first page of the thread for the explanation

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FfuzzyLogik
FfuzzyLogik


Adventuring Hero
posted January 12, 2018 11:57 PM

Nephretes said:
Quote:
Does it replace cyclops? Where did he go then?
I am already tired of explaining what the project is all about. Please check first page of the thread for the explanation
One objective here is to make alternative creatures. This may increase strategy ; some choices can be done according to situation ; you can choose to build one or other of (here) level 6 creature. The problem in my eyes is : if you find some other town of your race ; if  someone made cyclops and if you choose this serpent, you cannot stack them... And you can't even have all these creature in your army because there is only 7 slots of creature and here if some towns have one and other have the second option, you'll need 8 slots to get them... Out of this, its very intresting and this creature is really splendid !
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Nephretes
Nephretes


Promising
Known Hero
posted January 13, 2018 04:45 AM

You have actually addressed interesting question here. Other thing is that for example if you are playing map with 3rd dwelling built it will be always default one. We will see what can be done about it in a future. If mod gets popular I am sure we will have even more support from VCMI team than there is already, as we are already cooperating

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Ancientdruids
Ancientdruids


Known Hero
BEware THe DRuids
posted January 13, 2018 06:03 AM
Edited by Ancientdruids at 06:06, 13 Jan 2018.

This is an interesting issue indeed. It was resolved in possibly best way in Heroes 7 - where you could just demolish the alternative Champion dwelling in controlled town and build another one if it suited you. But as Nephretes has already said, where's the will, there's a way. I'm certain that VCMI devs will cook up an equally clever solution. For example, when you capture a city with an alternative dwelling in place, you get to rebuild it once.

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FfuzzyLogik
FfuzzyLogik


Adventuring Hero
posted January 13, 2018 11:49 AM

Some other possibility may be "you can change the building" if there is alternative ? It may be some option like this...
For creature, maybe it shall exist a "command" secondary skill who increase the number of stack of creature ? It shall be fun to have some other secondary skill and to be able to have more than 7 slots of creature... More slots means more strategy to play with them ?
Just some idea like that if it may be of use. If not, no matter, I continue to "dream".
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fred79
fred79


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Undefeatable Hero
SCOURGE OF THE H-SEA
posted January 13, 2018 11:54 AM

in wog/era you can demolish everything, then build it back up(even change the castle once everything is demolished). that'd be a good feature to implement into vcmi; and would take care of any issues like that. of course, i'm not a programmer, so i don't know how difficult that might be.

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Warmonger
Warmonger


Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
posted January 13, 2018 03:17 PM

...There's also multiplayer, where you don't have much time to develop towns - just pick anything that drops and what you can afford.
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Winston
Winston


Adventuring Hero
posted January 16, 2018 01:57 AM
Edited by Winston at 02:00, 16 Jan 2018.

Nephretes said:
Quote:
Does it replace cyclops? Where did he go then?
I am already tired of explaining what the project is all about. Please check first page of the thread for the explanation


Yeah I'm a dummy, I read the whole thread because I wanted to see more of the creatures.
I really like the idea of alternate creatures, and on top of that you're keeping it as close to vanilla as possible. This will be a download for sure for me.

On the "problem" of another town having cyclops so you can't fit all 8.. I don't think this is really a problem to address. It's just a part of the choices and consequences of the alternate unit being there. It's already a choice you have to make in normal gameplay. Like when I capture a dungeon town when I'm playing a different town, I'll drop one of my original 7 units to make room for more shooters if I need them and Black Dragons.

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Nephretes
Nephretes


Promising
Known Hero
posted January 16, 2018 09:52 PM
Edited by Nephretes at 22:21, 16 Jan 2018.

Oh yes, we have not talked much about neutral units which will be making an appearance in the first mod release.

Some of you might know, that at the early stage of game development there was a mysterious creature with a code name "Banshee". There are not many details regarding the purpose, properties or sole reason why it has been dropped in the final release. All what is left is a screenshot of pre-released battle screen.



Feeling nostalgic yet? That's about time "Banshee" will get reintroduced via MDT interpretation in form of "Demilish". And don't you worry, we made sure it is unique one and really dangerous undead for the daredevils who will try to fight it



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Another neutral unit which was already released in a form of mini-mod was mermaid which will be also included in the release. Stay tuned for the some concepts might get renewed in unexpected way



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pellish
pellish


Famous Hero
posted January 17, 2018 07:01 PM

Keep it coming! Great work! Thanks for showing us.

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fred79
fred79


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
SCOURGE OF THE H-SEA
posted January 17, 2018 10:04 PM

@ neph: cool creature. what makes the demilish so dangerous? what are it's abilities?

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