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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted October 28, 2015 10:48 PM |
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Something very weird just happened!
I was playing my map against the ai, when something really weird happened:
I was playing Castle and my main hero was Tyris, I faced an ai hero which somehow had ARMAGEDDON'S BLADE. Weird thing is Armageddon's Blade is not allowed in my scenario. It is however placed in the backpack of the "final boss". This was NOT who I was facing however. The "final boss" is in an isolated part of the map and he CAN'T get out, only other heroes can get in, when they have obtained a specific key at a keymaster's tent.
I continued with the map and defeated the "final boss" and I obtained Armageddon's Blade as I should, since I placed it in his backpack.
But then I had 2 Armageddon's Blades, proving that there somehow was created another Armageddon's Blade, as I know I only placed that one in "final boss's" backpack.
How can another Armageddon's Blade appear, when it is dissabled in the editor?
So anyone have ANY idea how that could happen???
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 28, 2015 10:57 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 22:58, 28 Oct 2015.
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OhforfSake
Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
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posted October 28, 2015 11:16 PM |
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It's not a combo artifact. 
PS. No I don't know, sorry. I suppose the most you have are autosaves from the last rounds?
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted October 28, 2015 11:22 PM |
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Yes, I have a save of the final day, before fight with "final boss" and I have Armageddon's Blade and get another one after defeating final boss. It really does'nt make any sense to me. 
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted October 28, 2015 11:33 PM |
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are you absolutely sure it wasn't placed anywhere else, maybe if you upload a save or something we could double check and verify lol
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted October 28, 2015 11:40 PM |
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Maybe I could do that.
But I am 100% there is only one Armageddon's Blade in that scenario. It is dissabled in map editor and is not given as a quest reward, so seems like it just wanted to clone itself into the hands of the enemy...
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted October 29, 2015 03:54 PM |
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phoenix4ever said:
seems like it just wanted to clone itself into the hands of the enemy...
I never faced this problem but I remember sometimes, even in SoD, to hire an hero and somehow to have it also on the enemy side (I'm guessing cause we both had it on tavern at the same time) and when I leveled it up or give him artifacts, enemy shadow hero would also level up (I think the opposite wasn't happening). As far as I recall it, this would soon crash the game but if it was happening to you, maybe the shadow hero ended a turn with the AB on him and passed it to other hero.
P.S. I'm not sure if I made myself clear here, please ask me for more clarifications if not.
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The_Polyglot
Promising
Supreme Hero
Nuttier than squirrel poo
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posted October 29, 2015 05:56 PM |
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It's extremely unlikely, but the ai could have gotten it from stuff like shipwreck survivors, warrior's tombs or skeleton, unless you specifically banned it in the editor.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted October 29, 2015 06:34 PM |
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@BloodSucker Hmm interesting about the "shadow hero", I have set the "final boss" to random town and hero and in this case the final boss was Ajit. Maybe this hero was hired (again) by another enemy so there was two Ajit's both with Armageddon's Blade? Seems like a bug if the same hero can appear in taverns, if hero is already in use!
@The_Polyglot
I completely banned Armageddon's Blade in editor.
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted October 29, 2015 11:08 PM |
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phoenix4ever said:
Maybe this hero was hired (again) by another enemy so there was two Ajit's both with Armageddon's Blade?
I don't know how it happens, my guess is: an unhired hero is in both yours and somebody else tavern at the same time, then both you and AI player hire him. Now, my second guess is: you were chainning the AB to main and in the process you ended a turn with it in some secondary hero that was also hired by Agit's faction. In his turn this (hypotetical) hero chainned his artifacts to main (Agit) and in your next turn you had him passed the AB to someone else, without knowing a duplicate had also been passed to Agit's faction heroes. If you are dismissing secondary heroes for chainning maybe there were no conflicts causing the crash and all of this could go unnoticed.
I know, it's too many guessing.
P.S. "Shadow hero" was a term I coinned at heat of the moment to better illustrate what I was saying, it has no meanning at all.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted October 29, 2015 11:24 PM |
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It is important to understand that "final boss" Ajit was placed as a random hero from day 1, so he was never bought in a tavern. Also final boss Ajit did not come in contact with any hero as he was in an isolated part of the map, where he could not get out and no one else got in before I did, just before defeating him and winning the scenario. And I know what you meant with "shadow hero" it was the theory I found interesting. 
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted October 29, 2015 11:32 PM |
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phoenix4ever said:
final boss Ajit did not come in contact with any hero as he was in an isolated part of the map, where he could not get out and no one else got in
Well, in that case my guess is wrong.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted October 29, 2015 11:49 PM |
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Well you could be right about the shadow hero part, if somehow ai bought (another) Ajit in tavern and he inherited the traits of final boss Ajit including Armageddon's Blade in his backpack. But something like that really is'nt supposed to happen!
I hope I have solved the problem now, making final boss a specific hero which can't be bought or chosen normally. If the problem still persists I guess I have to remove Armageddon's Blade totally.
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Drakon-Deus
Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
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posted October 30, 2015 01:14 PM |
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I once found Titan's Thuinder in a Warrior's Tomb. But of course this situation is different since you disabled the A's Blade.
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Paulemile
Known Hero
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posted October 30, 2015 08:25 PM |
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Something similar happened to me while I was playing a custom map i created.
There was a computer-only player, pretty strong, designed to be the boss, only fought after 6 or 7 months. He had like 3 towns, without any magic guilds enabled, dimension door banned from everything that can give it to you in the game, including tome of air magic and spellbinder's hat. No grail in Conflux either.
Somehow, on week 3 or so, a hero from this player reaches me while casting dimension door, and of course completely destroys me. 
Never found the reason why he was able to get that spell.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted October 30, 2015 09:18 PM |
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Hmm I guess unexplainable stuff can happen sometimes, but it must be some kinda bugs.
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markmasters
Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
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posted November 01, 2015 06:58 PM |
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sometimes it might just be a bug, i've had that my starting town flagged neutral after loading a game....just bugzzz
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