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Kayna
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posted October 29, 2015 09:03 PM |
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Chinese couples now allowed two children.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfSwGVCL0JQ
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EnergyZ
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posted October 29, 2015 09:06 PM |
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Yeah, it is supposed to be that now the companies have less workers and that the whole population started to have more old than young people.
Though I'd correct the statment to say "Chinese parents were allowed to have more children, but had to pay a fine for having more than one." Difference there.
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blizzardboy
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posted October 29, 2015 10:51 PM |
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This is a slippery slope. Give babies an inch and they'll go a mile. Whose to say Chinese couples won't be having 16 babies in another 10 years? This is how it starts. You try it just once, and then after that you say, "Just one more time", and then you get hooked on it.
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted October 30, 2015 01:12 AM |
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Do the babies get stamped with "made in China" I wonder?
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hermes
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posted October 30, 2015 03:16 AM |
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all I can say is.. I'm about 95% sure none of you have children
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kiryu133
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posted October 30, 2015 06:42 AM |
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I've been a child. Does that count?
Not sure about this. On the one hand, yay, girls getting a chance! On the other, OH GOD THE OVERPOPULATION!
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Corribus
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posted October 30, 2015 01:45 PM |
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Thread cleaned. Shall we try that again?
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fred79
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posted October 30, 2015 01:48 PM |
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sure cor, why not.
hermes said:
all I can say is.. I'm about 95% sure none of you have children
what do you mean by this?
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted October 30, 2015 02:01 PM |
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I like how it says they're now "allowed" to have more than one child, the wording suggests that they were prohibited from having more than one kid before, which to my knowledge is definately not the case, they'd simply recieve no government aid for the second child (and IIRC the first child as well).
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fred79
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posted October 30, 2015 02:03 PM |
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i must have been mistaken then; i was led to believe that chinese having more than one child was against the law, and that it would be most likely killed if it was a girl?
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Corribus
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posted October 30, 2015 02:17 PM |
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hermes said:
all I can say is.. I'm about 95% sure none of you have children
I have a child. I'm not sure what your point is, though. Why don't you try explaining what you're trying to say rather than just hinting at it in a way that's deliberately formulated to annoy other people.
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Elodin
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posted October 30, 2015 02:17 PM |
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Why do people put up with a government that dictates how many kids they can have? They should rose up and overthrow the communist freaks and put in place a legitimate government.
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted October 30, 2015 02:18 PM |
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Actually we're both right, it is against the law, and if the mother is caught being pregnant with a second child then it would most likely lead to a forced abortion or sterilization. That, or the family would have to pay extra charges to cover the cost of health care and education.
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Why do people put up with a government that dictates how many kids they can have? They should rose up and overthrow the communist freaks and put in place a legitimate government.
Because they have common sense, knowing that individuals can't stop each other from pissing into the community pool, but a government can. When you have widespread famine and disease due to overpopulation and cause your government is selling your grain (nobody is perfect) who is going to make the call, and more to the point enforce it? Individuals? Don't make me laugh, the libertarian approach is inapt at dealing with reality, and the reality is that humans are not free in society, you can't do and act as you please, breeding and putting a burden on your fellows is an issue that needs a firm decisive solution.
Although, it's funny to see Americans being so suspicious of any governemnt, how can one exist in a state where you don't trust your own elected representatives? (Well from what I know of American politics I can see why lol) Personally, I really don't care what a governemnt's policy is, so long as they have the people's best interest at heart, rather than robbing them blind just so they can line their and their multi billionaire buddies' pockets with money.
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Elodin
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posted October 30, 2015 02:23 PM |
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Edited by Elodin at 14:25, 30 Oct 2015.
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fred79 said:
i must have been mistaken then; i was led to believe that chinese having more than one child was against the law, and that it would be most likely killed if it was a girl?
Forced abortions as well as the killing of already born children if a second child was born is common. Along with falling into disfavor with the one political party that keeps you shackled for your entire life. So sad for a person to live as a slave of the state for his entire life.
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fred79
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posted October 30, 2015 03:10 PM |
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Elodin said:
Forced abortions as well as the killing of already born children if a second child was born is common. Along with falling into disfavor with the one political party that keeps you shackled for your entire life. So sad for a person to live as a slave of the state for his entire life.
i'm with tsar 100% on this. my reason being, that human beings can't take care of and raise the kids they have properly as it is. you would've thought they would get it right after centuries of parenting, even during social evolutions and whatnot. they still haven't gotten it right. until the entire human race can show that it can be responsible and sensible in regards to one another and the environments they inhabit and affect, then they shouldn't be allowed to procreate period.
what gets me, is that there are licenses and laws for drinking, firearms, and vehicles(all of which people are somewhat irresponsible with anyway); and there ISN'T one for parenting??? there isn't even any classes(it's not even taught IN SCHOOLS, ffs): anyone can pop a kid out; even a goddamn kid. the ONE thing that human beings should be the MOST responsible for, and they're not even close; there's no regulation other than china(and now THAT'S gone, because they need more factory workers to produce more garbage for the dumbass inhabitants of theworldisyourshoppingmall.com(a.k.a. the u.s.)). with great parenting(globally) would come infinitely better societies that could work WITH one another and the planet, instead of always AGAINST.
but yeah, those're pipe dreams. until then, procreation should be strictly outlawed globally. until humanity can get themselves under control; to stop acting like spoiled children, and come to grips with their illusions/delusions, fears, ego's, and greed; then they don't need to be spreading their kind around to eat up the world and everything in it, and then wipe their ass with the environment. it's snowing embarrassing for a supposedly "logical" species.
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bloodsucker
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posted October 30, 2015 03:21 PM |
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Elodin said:
Why do people put up with a government that dictates how many kids they can have?
So, of course you support Planned Parenthood, right? It helps people to choose how many kids they want.
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Kayna
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posted October 30, 2015 03:35 PM |
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Elodin said:
Why do people put up with a government that dictates how many kids they can have? They should rose up and overthrow the communist freaks and put in place a legitimate government.
But the government has an army and a police force ; trained men and women with access to weapons and or military grade weapons. Rising up against them means facing them as well, because they are trained to take the side of the government every time. They also know the consequences if they defect. Not only that, but dead cops and soldiers can be replaced, as long as people are willing to take those jobs. A higher quantity of poor people leads to a higher quantity of people willing to take any jobs. I think China has tons of those.
How trained and how militarized they are makes any overthrow attempt below 1 % success. The only governments that were overthrown in the past were done by the military themselves, a move I can sometimes agree with, depending on the situation.
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fred79
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posted October 30, 2015 03:51 PM |
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@ kayna: as far as the u.s. goes, there will never be any overthrowing. the general public need the military and the government to keep the foreign threats at bay, and the government and military need us to supply them with what they need(workers and soldiers). it's a stalemate on both sides, and both sides know it(or should); the best the government can do is try to keep an eye/ear on us, while taking more and more of our freedoms away. not that we ever really had any, but not that any mass of people need any, either.
the u.s. would be attacked from many sides, should we ever have another civil war. a civil war would lead to the end of the u.s.
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Elodin
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posted October 30, 2015 04:52 PM |
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Edited by Elodin at 16:54, 30 Oct 2015.
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@fred79 It is self evident that procreation is a human right. People were procreating long before the existence of any government. Governments that do not protect the natural right of the people are not legitimate and should be overthrown.
Unfortunately leftists in power always want to control every deed, every word, and even every thought of the people. The more left-wing the government the more oppressive it is. Their idea is that the people are morons who need the state to plan out their lives. They view themselves as the elite who alone have intelligence and wisdom and thus the right to rule over the people. They in reality are monsters more frightening than anything dreamed up by Hollywood.
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Of course I do not support Planned Parenthood. They snuff out innocent human life in the womb then chop up and sell the body parts. Monsterous.
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kiryu133
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posted October 30, 2015 06:50 PM |
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Man, china is such a strange and crazy place to talk about. As I've already said, girls might have a better chance with, you know, existing now but on the other hand, China has such a ludicrously enormous population that not only did the limitations make sense, they were kinda necessary and in general a good thing for the entire world.
To me, it's a clash for my moral values. Sure, more children will have a chance at it but on the other hand this could doom the entire planet considering the pace China is progressing towards I-country status and I see the reason for both "sides". definitely a massed up situation, though too be fair, as the living standards improve the amount of children born will decrease and it just might balance out. Question is if it will be in time...
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