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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
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posted November 21, 2015 09:57 AM |
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You are right and that is important, is it as important as Town Portal or Dimension Door though?
In HotA there are also artifacts which reduces enemies morale or luck by 1 or even 2, so they are also very good, but this poll is not about HotA.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted November 21, 2015 10:06 AM |
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Yes I value it more than dimension door or fly. As I said, usually those are luxury spells, they very rarely change the game issue because a) a well designed map should have all areas reachable without spells and b) if one area is, by design, reachable with only DD, then the spell will be given very late, to avoid spoiling the whole map.
So in both cases, you get those spells as a late present, the game is already won by that time.
Of course, if day one you place a box asking player what he wants right there, dimension door or spirit, he will take dimension door, I would too. But that would be a joke map, right?
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted November 21, 2015 10:19 AM |
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Yes that would be a joke map and probably a very bad map. DD is also good for the amount it allows you to travel, if you can cast it 4 times a day, you are completely unpredictable and almost unstoppable.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted November 21, 2015 10:40 AM |
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From mapmaker point of view, I find almost impossible to create a good map where DD or fly are available. Sure there are some individual exceptions (to kill for power) where you get early the air tome but the ingenious design makes that you are unable to use it the way it could compromise the map integrity. I think the last time I used those spells was 10 years ago, when I was downloading randomly maps from net.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted November 21, 2015 11:17 AM |
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Agree, I never use DD either, but that is because it is so broken. Same with Town Portal.
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mEkICK
Hired Hero
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posted November 22, 2015 01:20 AM |
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phoenix4ever said:
You people voting for Spirit of Oppresion, is it to prevent the enemy from getting morale, to make battles easier to calculate?
Yes, that is correct. Not just easier to calculate, but as Salamandre puts it:
Salamandre said:
One morale can screw a whole battle and consequently the game, usually early game, where you are under pressure of building your hero and town.
This can be a huge problem when you're trying to play aggressive and take on big fights in the early game.
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Laser70
Adventuring Hero
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posted November 25, 2015 11:00 PM |
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Edited by Laser70 at 23:03, 25 Nov 2015.
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Which artifact is the best and which artifact gives me most comfort are two separate things, I tend to favor artifacts that aren't necessarily the best but what I like the most. I like Pendant of Courage, it gives me +3 luck and +3 morale, it's just a very beautiful and useful artifact.
What's the best combination artifact, personally I would say that Armor of the Damned is the best, because it destroys pretty much everything that is good, your morale, your speed, your strength, your luck.
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HeymlicH
Famous Hero
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posted November 27, 2015 01:31 PM |
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I never use the DD or Fly spells, even if I have them. If I had to pick an Artifact before the start of the game, I would surely pick the Tome of Earth (leaving aside Armageddons Blade, which I consider a campaign artifact).
Guaranteed Slow + Shield + Raise Dead/Resurrection + TP + Implosion. I would consider the +6 helm second.
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Maag
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 08, 2015 01:21 PM |
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Edited by Maag at 14:08, 08 Dec 2015.
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Salamandre said:
Yes I value it more than dimension door or fly. As I said, usually those are luxury spells, they very rarely change the game issue because a) a well designed map should have all areas reachable without spells and b) if one area is, by design, reachable with only DD, then the spell will be given very late, to avoid spoiling the whole map.
So in both cases, you get those spells as a late present, the game is already won by that time.
Of course, if day one you place a box asking player what he wants right there, dimension door or spirit, he will take dimension door, I would too. But that would be a joke map, right?
With all respect, i don't get, why decent or good map has to be opened?
If all maps would be opened, then how about spells, like fly, DD? They would not have much point. Certain factions would be almost impossible to manage, etc.
Ofc "all accessible" maps can very good aswell, depends, what kind of game u search for 
About artefacts, it depends from the map and faction i think.
For Tower and large map or XL - which is not open map, Golden Bow is one of the best things u could get or even better - Bow of the Sharpshooter
In general - Book of Earth, Shackles, Cape of Velocity are some of the best imo.
Angel Wings too, but again, not on open map.
Orb of Inhibition - probably best by far artefact for Stronghold fighting against high spellpowered mage, which has other major strengths in spells, like clone, berserk, frenzy, resurrect etc.
Esp. if fighting against Inferno, which starts first and could cast u name it, clone on AD, or frenzy on AD and fry your AB-s or just cast berserk etc.
Fighting against Dungeon would be nice, if u have Orb of Vulnerability.
And the list goes on...
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Drakon-Deus
Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
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posted December 08, 2015 05:32 PM |
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I still stand by what I first said: Armageddon's Blade.
And good there was no "Sword of Frost" artifact in the game itself.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted December 09, 2015 12:32 AM |
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Svartzorn
Known Hero
Dead struggling with death.
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posted December 09, 2015 01:12 AM |
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I was gonna praise Spirit of Oppression, but people have already done so for me 
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Homer171
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted December 09, 2015 03:17 AM |
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phoenix4ever said:
Sword of Frost?
Opening video in Heroes 4 tells that when Armageddon's Blade and Sword of Frost collided, whole world of elrath basically destroyed. Then they teleportet this weird universe what nobody liked
Guestion is what is the best when you get these artifacts. AB and Helm are always fine but Wings and Air Tome are also great. I think i'll go whit Wings because they are always good, best boots in the game and you can change log shoes on at end of the turn. AB is great but mass haste and slow are good enough and there are few other possibilities you want in righthand slot(combines maybe). Air tome I have found few times very early in the game but sometimes you get these relics very late and then you have no use for them.
Most happy whit average play, Wings then AB
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