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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted June 13, 2016 12:44 PM |
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Salamandre said:
I like Civ6 graphics, I think they would fit very well to Heroes, especially the mountains.
Somewhat agreed but still in favor for a highly detailed 2D map, H4 style, with modern graphics.
yogi said:
great post Galaad, i agree completely.
Thanks.
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Articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted June 13, 2016 01:10 PM |
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I wouldn't mind the 2D setting back, although i would also like to see some 3D aspects here and there as well. If the art is really well donem detailed and the animations are rich, connect correctly and there is an abundance of them for each unit + sound effects, attacks and so on to keep the immersion alive, i would be fine with it.
It is not so much the 3D model for me as to the how alive everything feels. A unit that has only 3 animation or 4 is not alive. A unit that has only 2 sound clips is not alive. But when you see a variety of animation both for idle and attacking, special animations between units (Black Dragon and Titan for example, or Angel vs Devil) a variety of hit animation or be hit animation, death animations and so on, the battlefield because alive and dynamic. Also the battle system of Heroes V gave the alive feeling as well, because each unit could attack depending on its buffs and if you were too slow the next unit would attack and so on.
2D maps and creature models should in this era and time demonstrate a great amount of detail, realism (in the sense that the visuals can be seen very well, have natural movement and animation and so on) and feel alive.
In general, i think that having 2D might be easier to make each faction feel better together and have much better Townscreens. The problem will still be the scale and the depth and so on. But with a good studio, i think it can be possible.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
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posted June 13, 2016 01:14 PM |
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Articun said:
The problem will still be the scale and the depth
Actually these issues were brought by the 3D, no scale or depth problems in the 2D games.
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Articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted June 13, 2016 01:29 PM |
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This is what i had in mind, from Banner Saga:
Banner Saga 1
Banner Saga 2
Banner Saga 3
And probably i am wrong Galaad and you are right, in the depth and scale aspect. I just thought that putting everything together in a drawn environment might be harder instead of 3D.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted June 13, 2016 03:13 PM |
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted June 13, 2016 03:44 PM |
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted June 13, 2016 03:52 PM |
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EnergyZ said:
"cartoonish graphics".
Not the point.
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted June 13, 2016 04:10 PM |
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Graphics and tone can change. It's the visualization that captured me.
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Articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted June 13, 2016 04:20 PM |
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In many regards, it has the formula to be a very good Heroes Game reminiscent of heroes III in the 2016...
Banner Saga battle
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted June 13, 2016 04:39 PM |
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Galaad said:
EnergyZ said:
"cartoonish graphics".
Not the point.
I also agree it is not the point. That is not the reason not to play some games, which some people even pointed out for other games.
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Kayna
Supreme Hero
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posted June 13, 2016 04:40 PM |
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Banner saga is nice. Only flaw is their initiative system... no matter what, it's always 1 guy on your team, then 1 guy on the enemy s team... Which makes unlogical strategies worth it.
If there's 1 strong and 1 weak enemy left, don't kill the weak enemy because the strong guy will attack twice as often. Stuff like that.
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Zeki
Supreme Hero
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posted June 13, 2016 09:40 PM |
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EnergyZ said:
Yes, it does look good, but some may not like it because it has "cartoonish graphics".
Reminds me of CoH, which i liked  but i do understand people who wouldn't want such art-style in a main Heroes game.
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Articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted June 13, 2016 09:47 PM |
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The point was to show how a 2d heroes could look. The art could be made different. I never meant that the art style should be like that. But even if it was like that it would be much more in line with the older games than the newer ones. Closer to heroes 1 and 2 say.
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted June 14, 2016 10:46 AM |
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Edited by verriker at 10:49, 14 Jun 2016.
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http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/274883/Ubisoft_CEO_stresses_creative_independence_as_Vivendi_takeover_threat_looms.php
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Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot took a moment to stress the importance of creative freedom at the end of his company's E3 conference in L.A. today, an apparent gesture of defiance as media conglomerate Vivendi threatens to take over the game publisher.
Yves said:
This year Ubisoft celebrates our 30-years birthday. That means 30 years in the best industry in the world.
I love video games because the real innovation and magic comes when our teams and players are free to create. Free to innovate. Free to express themselves. Free to take risks and have fun. That's what got us here today, and that's what will drive us for another thirty years and beyond.
When you are free, there is no failure. There is only forward.
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While Guillemot didn't mention Vivendi by name (though he has openly talked about his disdain regarding a Vivendi takeover), it's apparent that it's Vivendi's advances that prompted such public commentary about creative freedom.
The Guillemot family founded France-based Ubisoft and also Gameloft, a mobile game publisher. Just last month, Vivendi succeeded in a hostile takeover of that company, which was run by Yves Guillemot's brother Michel Guillemot. Michel will reportedly help his brother prepare to fend off another expected takeover attempt by Vivendi, which has claimed it's not currently interested in such a move but does own 18 percent of Ubisoft's capital.
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted June 14, 2016 11:22 AM |
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verriker said:
When you are free, there is no failure. There is only forward.
Yeeeah..
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted June 14, 2016 11:24 AM |
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Elvin said:
Articun said:
Banner Saga 1
Banner Saga 2
Banner Saga 3
Wow this looks really good.
Agreed, this looks really good and fulfills all the needs that one has: It's easy to read, it's functional, and it has a coherent style.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted June 14, 2016 12:49 PM |
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted June 14, 2016 03:12 PM |
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Elvin said:
verriker said:
When you are free, there is no failure. There is only forward.
Yeeeah..
Explains a lot though ^^
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Datapack
Famous Hero
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posted June 21, 2016 05:29 PM |
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted June 21, 2016 05:33 PM |
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Edited by EnergyZ at 17:34, 21 Jun 2016.
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"I love video games because the real innovation and magic comes when our teams and players are free to create," explained Guillemot.
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"Free to innovate. Free to express themselves. Free to take risks and have fun. That’s what got us here today, and that's what will drive us for another thirty years and beyond."
Had to laugh. Man, this isn't tragic anymore, I just laugh at it.
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