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posted June 14, 2016 09:26 PM |
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Edited by Gryphs at 21:27, 14 Jun 2016.
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Neraus said:
Simply no, they are banned in the US, he had a semi-automatic rifle, a semi AR-15, which, means it had the same rate of fire of a pistol, an hunting rifle, or any other "civilian" gun.
To be fully automatic he basically would have needed to be a great smuggler, because he would have to take it from the army, and if he managed to do that would mean that there are far more pressing issues than gun control.
Wrong, albeit with extensive paperwork, a full auto could be yours in the US.
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posted June 14, 2016 09:36 PM |
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the biggest fuss about the latest pogrom in the yankeestan is because the victims are of non traditional orientation.
Jsut another false flag bull in order to revoke 2nd amendment and bomb some more goatbleepers(also fund them with weapons as well)
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posted June 14, 2016 09:55 PM |
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Gryphs said:
Neraus said:
Simply no, they are banned in the US, he had a semi-automatic rifle, a semi AR-15, which, means it had the same rate of fire of a pistol, an hunting rifle, or any other "civilian" gun.
To be fully automatic he basically would have needed to be a great smuggler, because he would have to take it from the army, and if he managed to do that would mean that there are far more pressing issues than gun control.
Wrong, albeit with extensive paperwork, a full auto could be yours in the US.
Really? I've heard otherwise.
Let me be damned then, so, it is that new automatic weapons can't be registered and bought or am I deeply misunderstanding US gun laws?
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posted June 14, 2016 10:04 PM |
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kipshasz said:
yankeestan
Lol!
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Gryphs
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posted June 14, 2016 10:04 PM |
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Edited by Gryphs at 22:13, 14 Jun 2016.
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Neraus said:
Really? I've heard otherwise.
Let me be damned then, so, it is that new automatic weapons can't be registered and bought or am I deeply misunderstanding US gun laws?
I am no expert, but what I think you are thinking of is the "Federal Assault Weapons Ban"; however, that ban expired in 2004 and has not been renewed. Provided you file the proper paperwork, observe regulations, and pay the ATF tax you are good to go. There is a background check requirement so the shooters weapon actually being automatic is unlikely.
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posted June 14, 2016 11:11 PM |
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I have found this guy gets to the center of problems far quicker than anyone you will read in established media. And I want to highlight something very important about how things "could" work in the future. I follow Christ this fellow does not but I would never attack him because he does not follow Christ and I believe he is a caliber of person that would never attack me because I do.
However, I not primarily looking for that - I want TRUTH. Only with Truth can any intelligent decision be reached by anyone (wanting to make an effort)...any person on this earth.
The Truth About The Orlando Terrorist Attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtXmRYblRps
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Elodin
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posted June 15, 2016 04:54 PM |
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The video was long but he has a good grasp of the situation.
A grand jury was convened last night to seek to indict the killers wife with 49 counts of murder and 50+ attempted murder and other things. Reports are that she knew about the plan and aided in various ways. She will be subject to the death penalty.
We will see if she squeals on anyone else who may have known. Since his sister bought his house for $10 it is likely she knew also. Not reporting plans for a terrorist attack is a federal crime.
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posted June 15, 2016 05:23 PM |
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posted June 15, 2016 06:00 PM |
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She kept her mouth shut like a good Muslim wife.
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Elodin
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posted June 15, 2016 06:26 PM |
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The second wife is the one being charged. Not the one who was married to him only a few months.
His second wife helped him case Disney World also. Disney reported their suspicions about the couple two months ago according to Disney.
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posted June 15, 2016 06:32 PM |
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Jesus, really want to get my hands on Disney World's CCTV footage now, bet the couple were doing some hilarious Four Lions type of bs.
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posted June 15, 2016 06:46 PM |
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posted June 15, 2016 07:47 PM |
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Is he any different from the abortion clinic bombing terrorism?
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Elodin
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posted June 16, 2016 05:19 AM |
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There are a number of differences between Islamic terror attacks & abortion bombings. Of course I condemn both. I am also aware there are many peaceful Muslims and I have Muslim friends.
First, attacks on pre-born baby-murder centers are sparse. Below is a link that discusses such attacks on abortion mills.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/11/since-2000-violent-attacks-on-abortion-clinics-average-less-than-two-per-year-some-years-none/
In contrast, Islamic terrorism is increasing worldwide.
Secondly, there are nations that sponsor Islamic terror, such as Iran and the recently formed Islamic State. There are NO nations that sponsor violence against abortion clinics.
Third, a significant percentage of Muslims support Islamic terror against infidels. I am unaware of any religion that gives support for violence against abortion centers.
Fourth, if the bar catering to gays played any part in it being selected, Sharia Law says gays must die, which would be another religious motivation behind the attack as far as an Islamic jihadist is concerned. No religion has a "holy war" on abortion clinics or gays.
Another "holy war" component is that ISIS has called on jihadists (holy warriors) to attack America and other western nations. No nation or religious organization has called for "holy warriors" to Attack abortionists.
Oh, another difference is that most violence towards abortion centers has been directed at property damage. Islamic terror is mostly directed at killing people. Though Islamic terrorists also like to destroy anything associated with other religions such as modern churches, ancient shrines, and tombs of ancient religious leaders of other faiths.They want to wipe out all religions but Islam and all traces that other religions ever existed.
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posted June 16, 2016 06:22 AM |
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Those are some valid differences and this will be a little off-topic but if the abortion clinics are "pre-born baby-murder centers" why do you condemn the attacks against them? We know that you support the death penalty and think that murder should be punishable by death, and if abortion is murder, it's easily one of the worst kinds of murder, infanticide. So what's there to condemn about it? Is the only problem that the attackers are vigilantes? If a state of law executed the doctors performing abortions, would you support it?
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posted June 16, 2016 01:16 PM |
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The Army of God is no nation, and I strongly doubt there is a "nation" supporting terror attacks.
In my opinion, as in the feudalist Middle Ages, especially in the oil-producing countries of the near east there are extremely wealthy persons worth many dozens of billions of dollars, and as with the rulers in the middle ages I suspect that things are run on a much more personal basis - like when Saddam Hussein attacked Kuwait, which was the reaction of the Emir of Kuwait telling Saddams Secretary of State they would do what they do until every Iraqui woman was a 10 $ prostitute (probably knowing full well what would happen and betting on Saudi Arabia and the US helping them out).
Imagine extremely rich people with a grudge and an ego that comes from being born with near god-like powers over most people. These people don't need any backing of the population OR the rulers of the country they live in - they have the means to hire people to do their bidding.
There is also the inner-muslimic struggle to consider.
Mistakes don't help. Iraq didn't own WMDs, and they wanted no inspection, because they wanted to make Iran believe they had them. Saddam Hussein had no ties to Al Quaida - in fact he thought, they were fanatics and he didn't support an idea like an "Islamic State". Of course there isn't much good to say about him and his government, but compared with the the rest of the lot, the US barked up the wrong tree - twice. And probably deliberately.
Now, I do understand that the possibility of these cowardly attacks on civilians is something no one wants to suffer from, and so there is a real drive to try and find a "mastermind" behind all this, someone to hit with all the power a nation like the US, the most powerful in the world, can unleash, but sadly it's not tht easy. The communists already tried to root out religion and belief, unsuccessfully, so you cannot destroy religious beliefs Or extremist behavior coming from aggressive interpretations (or a violent nature, guilt or whatever).
Nor can you bomb countries to oblivion, because you suspect terrorist are hiding there, and when you attack a country like Afghanistan in a conventional way, there is no gain either.
Which means, if there is a war, it can only be led with the same means the attackers use: you need to find out WHO EXACTLY is giving money to the people who organize things like Al Quaida and IS, and then you have to kill these people via black ops - covertly, and the same way you would deal with drug cartel leaders in Mexico, Bolivia, Peru or elsewhere.
Of course, that's the same dirty methods the enemy uses, and the problem is, if a power like the US builds one or more organizations like that (counter-terrorism groups that single out terror threats and eliminate them as a matter of secret policy) you also create an extremely powerful instrument that cannot be controled.
In short - it's very complex, things are very deeply rooted and there are no easy solutions.
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posted June 16, 2016 03:08 PM |
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@artu
I do not support violence against abortion centers because such violence is against US law and is not sanctioned by the New Testament. It is the State that is to be a terror to evil-doers, not me.
Yes, if a law were passed making abortion illegal and people killing humans in the womb subject to the death penalty for murder I would support the law. Abortion is the premeditated killing of an innocent human so I think the penalty would be appropriate for such a law.
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posted June 16, 2016 03:14 PM |
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Answering a murder with murder isn't better, either. Otherwise, what makes people better than others to murder those that murdered others (using your arguments)?
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posted June 16, 2016 03:35 PM |
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Yeah, well, let's not start this yet again, and not in this thread. You can obviously think that people who do abortions are murderers and would deserve the death penalty provided they were illegal and at the same time condemning attacks on abortionists. That's no contradiction. Elodin's stance here is clear: having an opinion is one thing, taking illegal and murderous action quite another.
The general problem here is the fact that there is no target for retaliation or punishing the ones "responsible" for all these attacks, because that's precisely the purpose of this kind of warfare
This was also the main idea behind the terror of the RAF in Germany . The idea was, if you just make the state and its strong arms paranoid enough so that the STATE is tightening the reigns and starts doing the people wrong - infringement of civil rights, for example -, the people will react and more people will join the "armed combat", until there will be a revolution against the "police state".
Obviously that's something here as well: if paranoia against muslims IN GENERAL is increasing, then muslims will start to think that they are targeted unfairly and oppressed and whatnot, which in turn will lead to more people taking action.
This must not happen, obviously, because if it DOES happen, terrorism reaches its goals.
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posted June 16, 2016 03:59 PM |
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So what you say is: ignore and keep hidden that terror and murder comes from muslims, to avoid muslims feeling offended and starting to murder even more because unfairly accused. Brilliant.
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