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posted November 03, 2017 01:33 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
Yeah, sure, and she eats little babies for breakfast.
Hillary never hid her hatred for certain countries nor her warmongering tendencies... I know you and many others don't agree but as bad as Trump is I still think she would have been worse.
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posted November 03, 2017 02:44 PM |
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Galaad said:
JollyJoker said:
Yeah, sure, and she eats little babies for breakfast.
Hillary never hid her hatred for certain countries nor her warmongering tendencies... I know you and many others don't agree but as bad as Trump is I still think she would have been worse.
Right. First she would have opened all borders, making the US a free-for-all immigrant paradise, and on the other she'd have then gone on nuking each country any suspected terrorist might have come from, including her own.
I mean, you sound like someone trying to sugar-coat a brain tumor with the assertion that without it you might have worked out too hard and died from a heart attack. It's got tin-foil hat quality.
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posted November 03, 2017 10:03 PM |
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Well, I've actually cheered for Trump. It may sound stupid today, but back then, I was sure Hillary was representing the US warmongers. Her anti-russian rhetoric was actually scary. The last thing humanity needs is someone - anyone - to give it a little push towards the nuclear option.
Turns out Trump ain't much better, sadly. His little twitter war against Kim is just... lame, for a better word. And his ideas seem... asinine, again for lack of a better word. Banning the Visa Lottery because some guy who won the visa lottery actually turned out terrorist... IDK, seems ridiculously far fetched, and springs into the "group responsibility" territory.
On the other hand, since I can't seem to win this lottery and some random Uzbek terrorist can... maybe it's for the better for it to be gone, egoistically speaking ( ). If I can't win, at least those lamebrains won't win as well <evil laughter, with a hint of frustration and bitterness>.
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posted November 03, 2017 10:48 PM |
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la-la land. 
We have open borders in Europe, smart people urge to retrieve individual control, then the answer is invariably "why, terror attacks come from inside". Trump blasts diversity visa because is stupid law, people say "why ban". Because is stupid and unfair maybe? A visa given on geographic area then on pure luck critters while thousands of capable people from "wrong areas" or out of luck can't get one?
He responds to boy Kim the only way the other can understand - rude, you think it aggravates the things. Because the predecessors with their limp and polished slogans did it better, right? The guy is testing nuclear weapons all across the area, he basically never saw any serious reaction and is laughing all teeth out.
Not that I agree with any of positions, we should not stick our nose in North Korea business. Another source of future troubles.
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posted November 03, 2017 11:18 PM |
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Doomforge said:
Well, I've actually cheered for Trump. It may sound stupid today,
Rest assured it sounded stupid a year ago as well.
Salamandre said:
The guy is testing nuclear weapons all across the area, he basically never saw any serious reaction and is laughing all teeth out.
Joke's on him, it seems.
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posted November 04, 2017 12:36 PM |
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Salamandre said:
la-la land.
We have open borders in Europe, smart people urge to retrieve individual control, then the answer is invariably "why, terror attacks come from inside". Trump blasts diversity visa because is stupid law, people say "why ban". Because is stupid and unfair maybe?
If he nuked the visa lottery down because it's based on weird principles, then yeah, I'd agree... especially since I can't seem to win it
But that's not the case. He got agitated because of a single terrorist went through. You know, it's the "nevermind the 10000 or whatever the amount is of people that are OK, there's one bad guy, the program sucks" insane troll logic.
That TVtrope seems to fit Trump well anyway.
As for Kim, a president of the US tweeting threats is just a pathetic mockery of diplomacy. The next step would be blocking him on facebook
Were the predecessors any better? Honestly, I don't care. I don't measure Trump relatively to Obama, Bush, or whatever, and I don't use the obammafails per year metric. Absolutely speaking, he's doing an awful job regarding the Korean situation - he achieved absolutely nothing so far, made ultimatums that he failed to deliver, and uses a freaking twitter for his daily tasks.
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posted November 04, 2017 12:54 PM |
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You can view it as you like, so it suits your politics. But the tweet is there, he said: "the terrorist entered through diversity visa, I want merit based visa". That's different from saying "ban the visa because of this terrorist". For me it is logical that if one tragic event debunks the flaws of a law, action is taken.
Wish we did same in Europe but some people have as goal to keep our civilization weak, vulnerable, create unrest, retaliation then cry racism so they can drown it even more by importing a new electoral base, the welfare voting culture.
I'm not defending his tweets logorrhea. I'm defending the fact that you guys bash on all aspects because one, which is irrelevant. The day after the attack, we had 5 articles in mainstream, one about Trump asking for death penalty, another about Trump tweeting that, another about Trump taking 24 hours to react, another about Trump etc etc. This is dumbness, obsession and petty bickering. And it continues.
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posted November 05, 2017 11:48 AM |
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@doom
I suppose Russia would be much more of a "front page" topic in Poland.
I'm not sure how much Trump saying nice things about his Russian bromance partner, Comrade Putin, actually translates to better relations. He just likes Putin because they have a lot in common and Trump sees militant Islam as enemy #1, and since Russia has plenty of experience with militants themselves, that makes them an asset.
But Goldilocks and KGB Wonderboy still adamantly disagree with each other over the desecrated carcass that was once Syria, the Persian Empire's nuclear program, and the K-Pop deprived half of Korea.
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posted February 15, 2018 12:49 PM |
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worst florida school shooting in history, 17 dead
i can already smell the president's tweets, with the school shooter's last name being "cruz". of course, this happened yesterday, so i'm probably a tad late.
apparently, the school knew this jackass was a threat. he had threatened students and school staff(according to the article) last year, and had still been threatening school staff. he wasn't allowed to carry a backpack to school because of these threats... shouldn't that have been grounds for expulsion right there? if you can't carry a friggin' backpack to school, then how are you still allowed in school? aren't backpacks supposed to contain the necessary schoolbooks needed for education? how does permission onto school grounds even coincide without a backpack? let alone, if you have been deemed a threat enough to NOT be allowed to bring one onto school property? doesn't that automatically cancel out your access to school? i mean, wtf, people.
the school dropped the ball big time with this one. they should have notified the fbi as soon as they deemed him a threat; indeed, as soon as he made his FIRST threat. i can see a class-action lawsuit, certainly.
as soon as he was expelled, at the very least, the local police should have been notified by the school, of a potential threat. or at least, the cop(s) AT the school. my point is, if they KNEW he was a threat, HOW was he able to carry this out?
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posted February 15, 2018 01:08 PM |
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Why would he do so? He never pointed to origins outside the illegal immigration angle and it is not the case here. Fred becoming a democrat cuck? 
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posted February 15, 2018 01:13 PM |
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obvious troll is obvious, lol. 
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posted February 15, 2018 01:46 PM |
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No backpack? Use a paper bag.
The guy never visited a psychiatrist, did he? If he did, maybe this incident could've been prevented, somehow.
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posted February 15, 2018 02:29 PM |
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American foreign policy playing out domestically and innocent guns get the blame. Been listening to celeb's outcries for tighter gun regulations. Not that i dont believe the right to ber guns has a signifant role to play, but it's piece n parcel of true american culture, which is violence (both physical n psychological). We are talking about a state that's been at 'war' for over 90% since independance. We aren't even talking about a medieval or renaissance state but one born in the enlightenment n that's ironically the problem.
You see the constitution of the US is amazing and advanced (save for a few logical/philosophical points of contention). The trouble is that it's a constitution that Americans from high and low are unfit for (not all, but valid when referring to the collective).
So gun regulation is problematic as one hand it will help those unfit for the constitution, but at.the same time harm those who are. Solution is redifining citizenship n what it means to be American.
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posted February 15, 2018 02:57 PM |
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Tsar-ivor said:
The trouble is that it's a constitution that Americans from high and low are unfit for (not all, but valid when referring to the collective).
So gun regulation is problematic as one hand it will help those unfit for the constitution, but at.the same time harm those who are. Solution is redifining citizenship n what it means to be American.
the core of the issue, is that people don't understand that with freedom comes responsibility and accountability. accountability is only enforced for select groups of people now(and it goes to insane lengths and is actually being used to abuse discriminately), but responsibility is right out the goddamn window. 
but honestly, responsibility isn't an american issue, really. it's a global issue. integrity and morality(specifically among "leadership") is also near non-existent, globally; and as far as i know, always has been.
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posted February 15, 2018 03:52 PM |
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The five worst mass shootings in United States history have all occurred since 2007. Three of those were in 2016 and 2017. It will only gets worse. What will we get from politicians? It is always the same song - "thoughts and prayers". Wow thank you.
They can go bleep themselves. 90% of Americans want universal background checks for all gun sales but no, that is unacceptable, it might hinder profits. NRA has it's claws deep in the swamp.
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posted February 15, 2018 03:55 PM |
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posted February 15, 2018 03:57 PM |
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things will undoubtedly get more violent as the world becomes more overpopulated, and especially with the current and ever-developing social atmosphere.
further along in the future, the whole planet will be a lot like africa. so pay close attention to that continent, because that's where we're all heading. unless we all pull our heads out of our collective asses. which people won't.
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posted February 15, 2018 04:05 PM |
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artu said:
the nra isn't the problem; the nra are just a gun organization that stands up for constitutional rights(and help push the sale of guns).
blaming guns, or the nra, for violence and hostility, instead of blaming, say, overpopulation and how the food industry is adding hormones to meat to help continue feeding the population(which are both in turn making people more hostile), or how american society is degrading for a multitude of reasons, is faulty.
most(close to all, in fact) of the gun violence deaths in the u.s. are gang-related. you get rid of the gangs, and you get rid of most of the gun violence. these sporadic killing sprees aren't the real issue; not even close. they just get more press.
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posted February 15, 2018 04:17 PM |
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artu said:
pointed out the US President had accepted at least $21m (£15m) towards his presidential campaign
Nope, he didn't have to accept anything, they spent this money on adds pro-Trump and adds anti-Hillary, the money never went in any of Trump's campaign accounts. Leftist medias shortcuts.
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posted February 15, 2018 04:33 PM |
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Trump apologists at work again it seems.
"Donald Trump marked his 99th day as US president by basking in the noisy adulation of his base and making a pledge to the National Rifle Association: “You came through for me and I am going to come through for you.”
Yet I don't blame Trump, no President has been able to push ANY gun laws that I can remember. Not that Trump would want to, but this is mainly the fault of Congress that nothing happens.
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