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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Templates that are reasonably hard vs AI
Thread: Templates that are reasonably hard vs AI
batoonike
batoonike


Known Hero
posted January 04, 2016 05:15 PM
Edited by batoonike at 21:43, 31 Oct 2016.

Templates that are reasonably hard vs AI

I'm trying to make templates that are harder to play vs AI. Preferably playable together in a 2 vs others. It's easy to take away all the resources and then it's hard map. But being poor is not that much fun. Ideally the start would be something like Jebus.

So here's a take on that. Purple, pink and teal start with zone full of pandoras with no guards and level 7 external dwellings, to give them a little boost. Recommended settings:
* Humans should be red and blue.
* Size: xxl patch xl + under
* AI castles: purple, pink and teal should have Castle, Conflux, Rampart or something else, that doesn't start underground.
* Teams: Purple, pink and teal together, other AI-s together, humans together.
* Difficulty: 200% obviously
* Monsters: strong
* Water: none

It's still pretty easy, especially if you play Necro or use a great hero as main. But it's a lot harder than default without the need to be poor. You can expect stuff like 10+ teleporting AI-s with throng of level 7s pretty soon. If you wait a few months it will be a swarm of arch angels sometimes. If it's too easy consider giving them a 1 month head start.

Get template: Crazy 2

You need to place also this file into folder heroes3/data/. This removes prisons from random generation. Otherwiser there are so many prisons it breaks the game.

Objects.txt with no prisons


Good luck

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Vampire_Rush
Vampire_Rush


Adventuring Hero
posted January 04, 2016 11:32 PM

Thank you for your effort, will try this when I have time

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batoonike
batoonike


Known Hero
posted January 05, 2016 05:14 PM
Edited by batoonike at 17:14, 05 Jan 2016.

Most importantly you need to place this file into folder: homm3/data/ . This removes prisons. Otherwise you will get too many prisons and game becomes unstable.

Objects.txt with no prisons

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Vampire_Rush
Vampire_Rush


Adventuring Hero
posted October 29, 2016 09:02 PM

Just found out I need the xxl patch. Seems like no current way of getting it?

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batoonike
batoonike


Known Hero
posted October 30, 2016 10:37 AM
Edited by batoonike at 10:38, 30 Oct 2016.

Maybe the HD mod also includes XXL sizes? http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=33708

If it doesn't I uploaded heroes3_xxl.exe and map_editor_xxl.exe. You may try to put these in heroes 3 folder and run them. It is likely you need some other files too though.

xxl exe and map editor

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tyranuxus
tyranuxus

Tavern Dweller
posted October 31, 2016 01:59 PM

Very intresting topic here. I think, I will give a try to this, but I really hope, that you'll do something, what will allow to just download, put in right folder and play. Not sure, how to do all this things, I am playing with HD Mod with Hota, so no problem with XXL maps, I think. So, maybe explain step by step how to do it, or try, maybe in settings, to disable prisons or so.
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RoseKavalier
RoseKavalier


Responsible
Known Hero
posted October 31, 2016 03:04 PM

Adding the new template

1. Go to your installation folder and navigate to HDmod Template Data C:/.../HoMM3/_HD3_Data/Templates

2. Create a new folder called 'Crazy2' or whatever

3. Put the crazy2.txt file in there.

4. Rename the crazy2.txt file to 'rmg.txt'

Removing Prisons

1. Go to your installation folder and navigate to Data folder C:/.../HoMM3/Data/

2. Paste Objects.txt in there

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The second step is more challenging with HotA because it ignores everything in /Data/.

You will need to open up H3ab_bmp.lod using MMArchive and fix the Objects.txt file in there directly. Since HotA file is probably different (didn't check), you need to extract it, change the prison line to match the ones uploaded by OP, then merge it again.

Make backup of H3ab_bmp.lod to be safe.

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batoonike
batoonike


Known Hero
posted October 31, 2016 09:48 PM

Thanks for creating step by step guide!

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Vampire_Rush
Vampire_Rush


Adventuring Hero
posted November 16, 2016 10:36 AM

batoonike said:
Maybe the HD mod also includes XXL sizes? http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=33708

If it doesn't I uploaded heroes3_xxl.exe and map_editor_xxl.exe. You may try to put these in heroes 3 folder and run them. It is likely you need some other files too though.

xxl exe and map editor


I have hd patch and there is a random map in there called nostalgia xxl, but I think I still need your separate patch, no idea how to check.

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batoonike
batoonike


Known Hero
posted November 18, 2016 12:58 PM

When starting heroes 3 HD you should be able to choose somewhere to go with XXL version. Like top-left corner?

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Vampire_Rush
Vampire_Rush


Adventuring Hero
posted November 19, 2016 10:25 AM

I have no idea what you are talking about

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batoonike
batoonike


Known Hero
posted November 19, 2016 01:34 PM
Edited by batoonike at 13:35, 19 Nov 2016.

It might be different for you but in heroes 3 folder start Hd_Launcher.exe. Something like this should appear. Choose XXL version from top-left.




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Vampire_Rush
Vampire_Rush


Adventuring Hero
posted November 22, 2016 11:20 PM

I have 4.202 RC 4 and it wont let me update. And no such icon, only heroes 3.exe

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Vampire_Rush
Vampire_Rush


Adventuring Hero
posted December 27, 2016 03:01 PM

After reading and replying to the XXL mod thread, it seems that I also need some file called diffs.txt

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batoonike
batoonike


Known Hero
posted December 27, 2016 06:51 PM
Edited by batoonike at 18:52, 27 Dec 2016.

Personally I don't have this file but can still play the templates. Your persistence is admirable though

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batoonike
batoonike


Known Hero
posted January 13, 2017 06:27 PM

The template is now updated. There is a much smaller chance of getting so many towns on the map that they make the game unstable. The link is same:

Crazy 2

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Supreme Hero
posted January 14, 2017 11:33 AM

batoonike said:
The template is now updated. There is a much smaller chance of getting so many towns on the map that they make the game unstable.

Great, first attempt - 44 towns. Perfect, thx.

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