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jonapaloma
jonapaloma

Tavern Dweller
posted January 21, 2016 04:28 PM

Drakon-Deus said:
I suggest that you try to improve on single-player, and then have another go at SoD campaigns.


You mean single scenarios?

Somehow it doesn't feel as appealing to me as campaigns does.

I feel like it is equally difficult with them as with campaigns.
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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
posted January 21, 2016 04:32 PM

jonapaloma said:
Drakon-Deus said:
I suggest that you try to improve on single-player, and then have another go at SoD campaigns.


You mean single scenarios?

Somehow it doesn't feel as appealing to me as campaigns does.

I feel like it is equally difficult with them as with campaigns.


SoD campaigns were more diffcult than Single Scenario to me, but if it's not the case for you, you can approach it any way you like.

It's important to practice your new tactics though. Experience.

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jonapaloma
jonapaloma

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posted January 21, 2016 04:44 PM

Drakon-Deus said:
jonapaloma said:
Drakon-Deus said:
I suggest that you try to improve on single-player, and then have another go at SoD campaigns.


You mean single scenarios?

Somehow it doesn't feel as appealing to me as campaigns does.

I feel like it is equally difficult with them as with campaigns.


SoD campaigns were more diffcult than Single Scenario to me, but if it's not the case for you, you can approach it any way you like.

It's important to practice your new tactics though. Experience.


I always have been awful in strategic games. It seems like I never can figure out those games. One good thing about HoMM3 is that its turnbased so I can think between turns. A RTS is to stressful for me

I learned something by playing HoMM3 this time around but last time I played it I gave up. That was a very long time ago though.
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rowsol
rowsol

Tavern Dweller
posted January 22, 2016 12:29 PM

I am by no means an expert, but the best advice I can give is to watch pro videos on youtube.  Basically, in order to beat the AI on harder diffs, you need to exploit the fights to lose as few guys as possible.  This often means using stacks of 1 weak guy to block a shot that would kill your ranged stack.

Apart from that, I tend to rush a capitol instead of dwellings, and never upgrade your guys until you get a capitol.
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Aleksandr
Aleksandr


Hired Hero
posted January 22, 2016 01:03 PM

The best what you can do to learn the basics and to improve yourself without much pain is to:
- play single scenarios on S to M maps with few opponents
- preferably ones where there is some kind of storyline or special win condition (these tend to be centered around the hero or story or w/e and thus are someties deliberately made easier)
- don't hesitate to start on Easy or Normal difficulty
- don't try all the fancy stuff you've seen on youtube. I had years and years of fun without frustrating myself with top strategies. You play for fun, not for prizes, and you may improve yourself once you feel you got what it takes
- master one or two castles. Additionaly chose one that fit your style. This way you'll play, fight, concentrate, etc. without losing patience and mental strength to learning of new castles' strengths and weaknesses
- build Town Hall Day1 so that you're not out of money too fast, than creature dwellings so that they grow, than maybe go for City Hall on start of week2 and finish week2 with as many creature dwllings + castle as possible, than expand the town. This is very reliable against AI on Easy, as you'll be having enough money and creatures to defeat it. However if there's any obstacle in the building tree that stops you from fast accumulation of creatures, don't build the City Hall that fast.
- screw the heroes' chains, you won't be effective and you'll lose patience and fun due to exhausting micromanagment. Simply purchase about four of heroes to scout the map and collecting the stuff
- main hero should do all the experience battles. Don't underestimate creatures like lots of zombies/dwarves, pack of golems, even the pikemen. These are solid source of experiences as they got lots of hit points yet they're slow and you'll shoot them down before they'll reach you
- learn how to use decoys (units with one sole meber) to eat the retaliation strikes and to block path
- don't lose creatures without reason. You will finish the game without that fancy artifact that's guarded by a so-so group of dragons
- don't waste time. This is especially linked to resources collecting. A wood pile in swamp that takes four days to pick needs to be extremely necessary to go for it.
- learn to start the turn in your town (so that you know what you'll need this turn, namely considering resources), then learn to finish your turn in town (to not forget to build)
- good units are better than bad units. Obvious as it is this means that you wanna spend money on e.g. elves and pegasi, not on dwarves and dwelling-based cripples
- main hero needs to be might 90% of time, as might heores give immense bonuses to your dudes
- skill tree is important. Support hero is good with Estates. Main... not so much. Even on a small map you'll find Logistic necessary, than Earth and Air Magic (Slow and Shield/Stone Skin or Haste respectively), Tactics, Armourer and Offense are a-must. This is six skills you wish for nearly always, the other depend on map and starting hero. Diplomacy is powerful and it may be a difference between win and loss. Necromancy is strong enough to be banned in pvp, so you got the picture, right?
- careful with the marketplace young Jedi. Don't snow up the exchanges, as greed and impatience may cost you too many resources. You really don't need to waste your precious gold/sulfur/wutnot to have zombie housea turn sooner
- learn the power of spells. While there are many that look fancy, there are some that are maybe less stunning yet they're much more effective. Anything that has a mass effect (like Slow with Expert Earth Magic or Bless with Expert Water Magic) is of tremendous help. What do you wnat more? To deal unimportant dmg with oh-so-amazing Chain Lightning or do you want to mass Haste your army and rush all over the map, deal insane amount of punishment and literally finish the battle before the enemy even moved his first peasant? Your choice, my friend... :-)

These are really really easy and obvious tips, but if you'Re having trouble on easy settings and/or cannot get your hand on proper tactic, maybe you'll find them helpful. But the most important rule is this:

ALWAYS HAVE FUN!

Do anything possible to make the game enjoyable. Don't play tired. Be careful. Reload., Try very easy maps and difficulties. just learn the basics, defeat an enemy or two and be happy with w/e the result. This game is about fun. Not about final standings.

PS: You gave me itches to design some funny easy map. :-))

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robizeratul
robizeratul


Known Hero
posted January 23, 2016 02:27 AM

speaking of strategy, are there any videos where they analize H3 games in depth? Like a pro player saying why he does what he does ?

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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
posted January 23, 2016 02:31 AM

I've never liked watching videos to learn how to play a game better myself, but if good players take the time to do them and they work for others, hats off for that...

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OhforfSake
OhforfSake


Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
posted January 23, 2016 11:46 AM

You can learn immensely from watching videos, even small tricks you never thought about that will improve your game tremendously.

You obviously don't have to reach for the skies, there's a depth to what the best people does that even a video doesn't really reveal because it will always only be one map and not the combined knowledge of said player. It can however make you a much more fearsome opponent.

A lot of the games I play, I used to be really mediocre in, but after watching vidoes of players much stronger than myself, I found small things I could do to improve my game, interesting possibilities I never thought about which made me experience old games in new ways and made me much better at them.

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jonapaloma
jonapaloma

Tavern Dweller
posted January 23, 2016 07:11 PM

YES!!! I did it. I completed After the amulet scenario. It took me 2 weeks and alot of head scratching. But now onwards to new scenarios which I believe to be equally or even harder
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Homer171
Homer171


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted January 23, 2016 10:45 PM

Good to hear jonapaloma


About Campaings, try to plan ahead. As mentioned before it's essential you build all mage guild in different town to get best spells, what will follow to next map aswell. Other good advantage is to buy many heroes, as the changes are they will follow you to next level aswell. Having few extra +350 and estates heroes at start does help. Maybe rerource or logistic specialist aswell..

Only the campaing specific artifacts usually follows to next map but hero stats will. Always cap the hero level, what is usually quite easy. Visit all stat boosting structures on the map (including town boosts). Make all possible side quest when those artifact usually follow (rare). If you'r main already capped, why not grind secondary heroes, they will be great town protectors on next map if nothing more. Secondaries should also learn the important spells (fly/dd thank you!) I try to learn scholar for secondaries aswell if there will be new main heroes in next map (again rare).

Always plan ahead. What could be useful in long terms.
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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
posted January 24, 2016 07:19 AM

Yes, good advice from Homer.

I did not get the campaigns right on the first time either, until I learned more about the kind of map and best possible strategy.

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OhforfSake
OhforfSake


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posted January 24, 2016 01:00 PM

By the way, is it not the SoD campaign where at some point you lose all progress on your heroes and the only thing that remains is the portrait and level? I recall restarting furiously and finally quitting that campaign for a long time due to the frustration of losing a lot of stats and spells.
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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
posted January 24, 2016 01:05 PM

OhforfSake said:
By the way, is it not the SoD campaign where at some point you lose all progress on your heroes and the only thing that remains is the portrait and level? I recall restarting furiously and finally quitting that campaign for a long time due to the frustration of losing a lot of stats and spells.


Yes, there is no way to have the 4 Heroes that you finished the first campaigns with the same stats and skills in the next stage.

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EnergyZ
EnergyZ


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President of MM Wiki
posted January 24, 2016 02:31 PM

OhforfSake said:
By the way, is it not the SoD campaign where at some point you lose all progress on your heroes and the only thing that remains is the portrait and level? I recall restarting furiously and finally quitting that campaign for a long time due to the frustration of losing a lot of stats and spells.


You don't actually lose progress, but the next maps are scripted so the heroes are automatically level 30 and have random skills. There is a slight difference.

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jonapaloma
jonapaloma

Tavern Dweller
posted January 26, 2016 05:33 PM

Finished the 3rd scenario of The beginning yesterday. I "cheated" a bit by reading some instructions from a guide I found and reloaded my game several times but I completed it none the less. I'm really proud of myself
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jonapaloma
jonapaloma

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posted February 10, 2016 08:01 PM

I've started playing hack and slash and I barely made it past 1st scenario. The 2nd is so freaking hard and I dont know what to do. I watched some videos and 2 of them I saw defeated all enemies. Sure it was based on skill somewhat but also I great deal of luck. Which I dont have.

Help?
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EnergyZ
EnergyZ


Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
posted February 10, 2016 08:17 PM

jonapaloma said:
Finished the 3rd scenario of The beginning yesterday. I "cheated" a bit by reading some instructions from a guide I found and reloaded my game several times but I completed it none the less. I'm really proud of myself


What guide are you talking about? Is it that .pdf file coming with the game, or something else?

jonapaloma said:
I've started playing hack and slash and I barely made it past 1st scenario. The 2nd is so freaking hard and I dont know what to do. I watched some videos and 2 of them I saw defeated all enemies. Sure it was based on skill somewhat but also I great deal of luck. Which I dont have.

Help?


Well, I played it a bit. Somewhat difficult, but the trick is to be fast. Build a good army, then speed towards the central gold mine, where the behemoth lairs are. Once done, you'd have to get the heroes to defend your town and attack with the rest.

Harsh, I understand. But here, I did ask the question about the scenario here. It should help.

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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
posted February 11, 2016 09:19 AM

He asked for Hack and Slash, the Blackshard scenario, right? That thread link was for Festival of Life campaign in Armageddon's Blade...


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EnergyZ
EnergyZ


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President of MM Wiki
posted February 11, 2016 12:33 PM

Drakon-Deus said:
He asked for Hack and Slash, the Blackshard scenario, right? That thread link was for Festival of Life campaign in Armageddon's Blade...




Dang it, misread that.

In that case, the only thing that can be recommended is to take a large army and hurry up to the south-west. No capturing towns, they take too much time and effort. It's basically a week through the swamp to get the sword.
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jonapaloma
jonapaloma

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posted February 11, 2016 09:37 PM

Oh man I can believe it. No matter what I do I can seem to win over the AI. I get overwhelmed by their number of heroes and they always seem to have the upper hand.

When watching videos it seems so "easy" but I cant make it

Sooo freakin' frustrating. Soon I have no hair left.
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