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Jesterology
Jesterology

Tavern Dweller
posted June 25, 2020 04:05 PM

I tried downloading both files on a separate pc (same browser though) which worked fine oddly enough. From there I simply emailed myself a copy of the map file and downloaded it like that and everything seems to work great now. Thanks for your help, I love the map!

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted June 25, 2020 04:51 PM

Thanks, great to hear. If you feel like playing ask way
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DIEGIS
DIEGIS


Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
posted August 09, 2020 02:51 PM
Edited by DIEGIS at 17:54, 09 Aug 2020.


... a little Nostalgia ...

Lastly 2 years during summertime in august and wintertime december Im just watching this forum. During the 14 years (doglife ) passed, saw loads of players, the most of them dissapeared, and,  now all I can see is very few people still around, almost none of the past, but still feeling happy this forum stands. Great performance! Unfortunately no games and no time for games and still no new heroes games. Arena games are not satisfactory because of constant change and frequently modification....but overall that makes the forum beeing still alive.

Have a nice holiday and life!
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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted August 10, 2020 07:37 AM

Look who carried a cool nostalgia breeze For what it's worth this version is not going to have any more major changes heh. And well, most people are gone but a number of them still lurk around.
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DIEGIS
DIEGIS


Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
posted August 12, 2020 09:10 AM

Twilight World is a masterpiece of a map for those who likes multiplayer maps!
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tyrael
tyrael

Tavern Dweller
I must act
posted August 12, 2020 06:12 PM

DIEGIS said:

... a little Nostalgia ...

Lastly 2 years during summertime in august and wintertime december Im just watching this forum. During the 14 years (doglife ) passed, saw loads of players, the most of them dissapeared, and,  now all I can see is very few people still around, almost none of the past, but still feeling happy this forum stands. Great performance! Unfortunately no games and no time for games and still no new heroes games. Arena games are not satisfactory because of constant change and frequently modification....but overall that makes the forum beeing still alive.

Have a nice holiday and life!


Damn, this comment made me feel so old and nostalgic for the better times. Then I clicked on your profile and saw that I am still significantly younger than you were 14 years ago. I have no excuse to feel the way that I do, you were a champion that managed to have fun and game and stay young at heart for a lot longer than me.

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DIEGIS
DIEGIS


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power of Zamolxis
posted August 14, 2020 12:25 AM




Damn, this comment made me feel so old and nostalgic for the better times. Then I clicked on your profile and saw that I am still significantly younger than you were 14 years ago. I have no excuse to feel the way that I do, you were a champion that managed to have fun and game and stay young at heart for a lot longer than me.


hey, my page it's updated, not 14 yrs old, you need to update yours as well!

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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted January 08, 2021 08:40 PM
Edited by Elvin at 20:45, 08 Jan 2021.

Fresh round of changes!

- Stats are back to 5%, battles feel more exciting this way.

- Leadership trees changed up a little. As originally, haven is the only faction that can get both empathy and retribution. Divine guidance unlocks empathy and etribution is unlocked by each faction's native perk like forest guard emblem, battle elation etc. Inferno is the odd one out, unlocking swift gating and gate master instead.

- Cold death is back! This time it can't instakill WM or a phoenix.

- DV is out for now. It was mostly fine but at times a gamechanger.

- Counterspell moved to defense. Will be further tweaked.

- Mirror matches are available again.

- Brisk raiders now have 80% wheeling attack! Tactical retreat no longer needed ^^

- Mummy hp toned down, damning strike(random debuff) instead of hexing attack.

- Horned overseers gain avenging flames x2 per unit. Had considered in the past but the Polish arena reminded me, thanks lohikaarme!

- Seraphs get immunity to curse spell. Average dmg is till 50 but with bless they can get higher.

- Blood sister loses wardance. Same init as fury, more hp, less dmg.

- Poltergeist can now steal ammo within 7 tiles.

- Unicorn blind now lasts 1.5 turns instead of 2.

- Mass dispel is 15 mana from 20.

- Cosmetic changes, minor bug fixes.



Current map + exe

Link not replaced on masterpost since tweaks are still being made.
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Towerlord
Towerlord


Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted January 24, 2021 08:55 AM
Edited by Towerlord at 08:55, 24 Jan 2021.

Hi guys!

I am playing hRTA mainly with Buxyrs lately, but with the russian fellows as well ... it's a map that has some mods as well. It is similar to Duel Map, but the mods are not as game changing as the ones on Duel Map. Could be fun to try for some of you maybe.

You can find it @ hrta , there is an english version of the map and skillwheel! There are also tournaments from time to time as well.

The map is very balanced and luck and morale skills are a little nerfed by mod, so heroes skill matters

It's worth a try ... because while Elvin's map is cool, it is the effort of a single man, but hRTA has been tested over and over again, and it is very polished. Cheers and maybe we'll see each other on the battlefield.

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted January 24, 2021 12:53 PM

Hey towerlord, been a while I have been checking RTA changes for a day or two and honestly they're fascinating. If schedule permits I will join the upcoming tourney for the fun of it. Are you on discord btw?
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Towerlord
Towerlord


Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted January 25, 2021 10:12 AM

Hey! I see you have found me on discord ... check out HRTA in the link I posted.

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted February 23, 2021 01:52 PM

Map link updated, balancing in progress
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Zaio-Baio
Zaio-Baio


Promising
Famous Hero
posted February 24, 2021 04:06 PM

Elvin said:
Map link updated, balancing in progress

Can you make an old school version with no skill/artifact/unit changes ?
Just give the weaker faction in uneven matchups more gold and maybe some minor artifacts. For instance a knowledge artifact and maybe +10 % magic resist boots for orcs when playing against inferno faction.

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted February 24, 2021 07:33 PM bonus applied by Galaad on 27 May 2021.
Edited by Elvin at 13:38, 13 Mar 2021.

I'd guessed what you'd say when I saw your post I'm sorry man, I'm done with 3.1. I remember those days fondly but I cannot go back, 3.1 feels like an evolutionary dead end to me now.



Moving exe changes here to de-clutter the masterpost a bit.

EXE CHANGES:

- Unit starting atb 0-25%->0-5%.
- Mass spells 50->80% atb.
- Morale cap 5->10 and triggers 10->5% per point.
- Spells can be learnt without wisdom or magic skills.
- Tent heals 100->150hp.
- Soulfire damage greatly increased.
- Artificer tweaks: Init/stat arties slightly toned down, defense reduction improved etc.
- Flaming arrows no fire dmg, 50% defense reduction.
- Empowered armageddon now correctly deals physical meteor dmg, harms warmachines and applies fire effects.
- Offensive/defensive formation and nature's wrath now work for all factions.
- Chain lightning 50->25% reduction per jump. Stuns all targets with master of storms.
- Chain lightning gains bonus damage after passing through an arcane crystal.
- Sprite random caster swaps decay with wasp swarm.
- Whip strike(random hex) now applies slow, weakness or vulnerability(instead of frenzy), triggers more.
- Bash/Crushing Blow 100->50% stun, +50% chance.
- Frost ring does not divide freeze effect between targets.
- Hellfire now works for both attacks and retaliations.
- Fear and bear roar now drop enemy atb to 0->50%.
- Counterspell now costs 200->150% of base mana.
- March of golems also adds +2 morale to golems.
- Griffin dive 200->150% dmg.
- Defile magic can no longer fully block spells.
- Trap can no longer fully stop units.
- Consume corpse, banish, prayer, howl now cost 100->50% atb.
- Mass cleansing costs 20->15 mana.
- Cold death can no longer instakill WM / summoned phoenixes.
- Master of storms now affects both water and air spells!
- Master of blessings now affects haste/RM/bless
- Master of abjuration now affects stoneskin/deflect/dispel
- Master of curses now affects curse/weakness/slow
- Master of pain now affects decay/vuln/confusion
- Free Mini arties, new formula:
[ Attack/Defence: 1+N/4->N/3 (+1 at 12/15/18)
[ Luck/Morale: 1+N/10->N/4 (+1 at 12/16)
[ Speed: 1+N/15->N/6 (+1 at 12/18)
[ HP: 1+N/5->N/3 (+1 at 12/15/18)
[ Armour Breaking: N/4 (+1 at 12/16)
[ Magic Protection: op logarithmic weirdness -> x2%
- Avenger 40->100% chance for +100->40% dmg.
- Luck/Morale cap at +5->10.
- Chilling bones has been upgraded 5->25%.
- Unicorn Bond of Light duplicates all light spells on expert->advanced.
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted February 27, 2021 09:44 AM

I'd actually be curious to see if you could gather more players to play if you do what Zaio requested.
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Zaio-Baio
Zaio-Baio


Promising
Famous Hero
posted March 04, 2021 02:24 PM

Galaad said:
I'd actually be curious to see if you could gather more players to play if you do what Zaio requested.


Im sure he will. His maps are great, but people want to play the original game.

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LordMichal
LordMichal


Known Hero
posted March 05, 2021 01:20 PM

I donīt agree with that statement.

For one, there were Arena maps based on original 3.1. The best example was Arena 1.0, which was created and played heavily in the Polish community. But even that map is now in its evolution phase and making changes.

The problem is evident - ensuring balance. When you take away an important parts of the game and leave it with just simple Hero lvling and final fight, you will eventually face a balance problems from many angles.

Second point would be, why shouldnīt be Duel map different? We do not need 5 maps that do the same exact thing. I would say that now we have 4 main maps for those who like duel games or just have reduced time possibilities:
- Arena
- RTA (Random Tactical Arena)
- Duel map
- FRFB (Full Random Fast Battles)

Anyways, just my opinion. Cheers folks

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted March 13, 2021 02:01 PM
Edited by Elvin at 17:41, 23 May 2021.

It's no longer cut and dry what people want. Some have zero interest in modded versions but one cannot overlook the active communities that are thriving even now.

It goes beyond balancing. There are many balancing approaches, all of them valid. Magnomagus has balanced H5.5 around nerfing most things while RTA goes large wherever possible.

The niche my map is trying to fill is:

- Skill focus on choice over luck in getting 2% rare skills
- Tools for going more might or more magic over having more classes
- Much bigger pool of spells like in H3
- Unit design that gives more options(like wraiths that can use harm touch or death wail, battle griffins that can either tank or go on offensive with assault skill etc)



Map updated in the meantime

- Now haven's destructive allows you to get cold steel and fiery wrath without a mastery plus improved 5-> 25% chilling bones(aka frost armour) or a mastery. +20% elemental dmg plus armour breaking effect from fireball should be decent.

- Avenger is more consistent. Instead of 40% chance for +100% dmg, it always deals +40% dmg on favoured enemies.

- Academy has redesigned artificer values so now it is viable to improve your knowledge instead of just spellpower/defense. Uncapped luck/morale makes luck/morale mini arties an interesting choice.

- Academy also has medium odds of getting defense skill which makes a huge difference vs offensive factions.

- Unicorn bond of light now duplicates friendly/enemy light spells on advanced!

- Some unit/spell tweaks.




- Rune of Revival 40% of fallen -> 30% of max stack. That means, always revives 2 magmas!

- Regeneration spell now heals total hp like rez! Will regenerate same hp whether it's used on peasants or archangels.

- Battle griffins 11->12 init to increase its offensive capability.

- Succubus channeller 11 init since they die pretty fast.

- Necromancy ghost nerf, dragons 2->3.

- Rush dive moved to imperial griffins.

- Mini wait (25%) added for heroes!




Map link updated [23/05/21], have fun
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DIEGIS
DIEGIS


Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
posted June 01, 2021 06:10 PM

Nobody interested  
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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted June 01, 2021 09:00 PM

You mean popularity challenged Well, lohi streamed one of our sessions the other week.

There isn't much point in sharing feedback here when most of the discussions/messages are done on discord. The forum becomes more relevant when there is a tourney going on.


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