Biobob said:

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For Quest-Progression I usually write everything important into the "Rumors" Section of the Map Specifications; you do not need to have it all in there, just the important bits where you would maybe otherwise think it to be an error after not looking at the map for one year. Also important: try to finish one chain of events during one session of map-making. What I mean by this: do not put a key artifact on the map thinking "I am gonna make the connection later" - you will forget about it (unless you make a very good written summary of what the plan is) and be confused later on yourself.

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Barbuta said:

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Is there any way to make sure that month of <creature> (double growth), that spawns creatures on the map can be disabled or at least avoided for a much as possible, when you are creating a map for SOD? In the very famous Chinese map - Ira the Mage if you set up the computer starting towns in a specific way that is given as an instruction by the author, that somehow avoids double growth months for at least the first several months. So somehow the author figured that out or changed the map in a specific way to do that. Does anyone have any information how that is possible?

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FirePaladin said:

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Creature Months can be disabled in "Tools -> Map Specifications" in map editor.

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Barbuta said:

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FirePaladin said:

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Creature Months can be disabled in "Tools -> Map Specifications" in map editor.

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Yes in Hota editor you have this option though if you save the map it becomes a Hota map and you can't play it with normal SoD. Maybe there is a way around that but I'm not aware. My  question was for SoD maps.

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Barbuta said:

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Is there any way to make sure that month of <creature> (double growth), that spawns creatures on the map can be disabled or at least avoided for a much as possible, when you are creating a map for SOD? In the very famous Chinese map - Ira the Mage if you set up the computer starting towns in a specific way that is given as an instruction by the author, that somehow avoids double growth months for at least the first several months. So somehow the author figured that out or changed the map in a specific way to do that. Does anyone have any information how that is possible?

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Mortarial said:

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Barbuta said:

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Is there any way to make sure that month of <creature> (double growth), that spawns creatures on the map can be disabled or at least avoided for a much as possible, when you are creating a map for SOD? In the very famous Chinese map - Ira the Mage if you set up the computer starting towns in a specific way that is given as an instruction by the author, that somehow avoids double growth months for at least the first several months. So somehow the author figured that out or changed the map in a specific way to do that. Does anyone have any information how that is possible?

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New creatures can't be spawned on square with event on it, so you can place an event, that can't be triggered by player, on every free square.
To avoid the limitation download the object limit breaker.

H3MAPED_infinite

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Barbuta said:

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Is there any way to make sure that month of <creature> (double growth), that spawns creatures on the map can be disabled or at least avoided for a much as possible, when you are creating a map for SOD? In the very famous Chinese map - Ira the Mage if you set up the computer starting towns in a specific way that is given as an instruction by the author, that somehow avoids double growth months for at least the first several months. So somehow the author figured that out or changed the map in a specific way to do that. Does anyone have any information how that is possible?

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kazmer said:

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Barbuta said:

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Is there any way to make sure that month of <creature> (double growth), that spawns creatures on the map can be disabled or at least avoided for a much as possible, when you are creating a map for SOD? In the very famous Chinese map - Ira the Mage if you set up the computer starting towns in a specific way that is given as an instruction by the author, that somehow avoids double growth months for at least the first several months. So somehow the author figured that out or changed the map in a specific way to do that. Does anyone have any information how that is possible?

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I was digging around in the game's code for clues, but I haven't found anything useful yet.

One thing is the alignments. You can modify the Ira map in the editor to set the aligments to the specified fraction, and you'll get the same effect.

The other thing is the random seed. Basically, every time you start a fight, the random seed is set to a well-known value, which depends only on the map coordinates. But random events happen during battles, like morale and such, so the random seed will be almost truly random after each battle. Also, looking at the puzzle map somehow resets the seed. If a dungeon has a portal of summoning, that also modifies the seed.

I did some experiments with the random generator. There is a simple check for creature month, like rnd() <= 10 then it's a safe month, no creatures will be spawn. I've plotted this check against the number of rnd() calls, and there are no big gaps. This means, you can't preset the rng to a well known value, and make a large number of rnd() calls without avoiding it to go above 10.

So it's still a mystery for me. I also tried recreating this effect, with an almost empty map. Looks like it also depends on the number of towns, and maybe the development of the towns. Different aligments worked for me with my map. Somehow I managed to achieve no creature spawn until the 12th month. And it did not matter if I just press the end of the turn rapidly, or go around with the hero and fight everything.

Still, this does not mean the spawn event can't happen, because of all the random events during the game. Also, the rng seed depends on how long ago your PC was turned on.

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avatar said:

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Just a marker.

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