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Heroes Community > Heroes 7 - Falcon's Last Flight > Thread: Heroes 7 Positive Feedback and Discussion
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Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
posted April 26, 2016 01:17 PM
Edited by Maurice at 13:24, 26 Apr 2016.

Guys, we're slowly drifting away from the intention of this topic: positive feedback. The current argument is focussing on the negatives again, which should be in a topic of its own. I'm going to see if I can move the posts on this page to another topic and clean it up some.

Edit: Thread cleaned. I have moved all the deleted posts into the "So what could somehow redeem H7?" thread, which is better suited for the discussion that developed.

Please use that topic for overall discussion on where H7 failed and could improve and let's use this topic for positive feedback .
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Antalyan
Antalyan


Promising
Supreme Hero
H7 Forever
posted April 27, 2016 05:09 PM

Positive facts (I will keep my doubts about some of these points for myself as this is the POSITIVE feedback topic only)
1) We are getting the addon for MMH7 some people thought it would bever come
2) The addon includes DWARVES, one of the three most popular remaining factions of Ashan universum
3) There should be massive improvements of the vanilla as well
/skilling, council scenes, ...
4) Many information about the addon and changes coming soon!

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ChrisD1
ChrisD1


Supreme Hero
posted April 27, 2016 09:24 PM

i'd take sanctuary over fortress anytime of day!
the good thing that also surprises me is the use of completely new units! they reused almost nothing!
as much as i don't like the dwarves I'm already enjoying the game up to a point, so if this expansion will make things better then I will really enjoy the game. i will wait for inferno and sanctuary though
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Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
posted April 27, 2016 11:25 PM

It does make me wonder, though; did they order the models of the expansion anew from a graphics designer? If so, which other models did they add or update? I assume we'll also be seeing a few new neutrals, after all.

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ChrisD1
ChrisD1


Supreme Hero
posted April 28, 2016 07:16 AM

The point is that we will see neutrals. I didn't even expect neutrals at all!!! Maybe the "expansion" was planned from the start and they daved funds for that. Smth like their last resort. Who knows... Now i can' t wait till june 2nd to see if there is actual bug fixing to begin with.
The good thing is that i haven t encountered almost any gamebreaking bugs. It just needs polishinhg and balancing. Especially spells.
Few spells,mamy schools yada yada,but it does work quite well i kust say. Just balance the damn spells!!
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cleglaw
cleglaw


Famous Hero
posted April 28, 2016 01:18 PM

they have "after-june2" support plans. this may mean something exactly like h7 vanilla, release even if its buggy etc etc... or release it properly polished but after add more features.

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frostymuaddib
frostymuaddib


Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
posted April 28, 2016 03:05 PM

Maurice said:
It does make me wonder, though; did they order the models of the expansion anew from a graphics designer? If so, which other models did they add or update? I assume we'll also be seeing a few new neutrals, after all.


New neutrals are always fine in my book
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Antalyan
Antalyan


Promising
Supreme Hero
H7 Forever
posted May 22, 2016 07:59 PM

Best gameplay for multiplayer combats (at least from Ubi games).
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Datapack
Datapack


Famous Hero
posted May 22, 2016 08:01 PM

Antalyan said:
Best gameplay for multiplayer combats (at least from Ubi games).


H5

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Antalyan
Antalyan


Promising
Supreme Hero
H7 Forever
posted May 22, 2016 08:15 PM

Datapack said:
Antalyan said:
Best gameplay for multiplayer combats (at least from Ubi games).


H5


H5 had very weak heroes and unbalanced armies.

H7 has better heroes (level 30), armies and factions are more different to each other in combat,
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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted May 22, 2016 08:20 PM

Antalyan said:
Datapack said:
Antalyan said:
Best gameplay for multiplayer combats (at least from Ubi games).


H5


H5 had very weak heroes and unbalanced armies.

H7 has better heroes (level 30), armies and factions are more different to each other in combat,

H5 got played to the death. H7 has yet to see any online play, major failure in this regard.

As for army variety and gameplay, you must not have played H5 or didn't play long enough to understand it. Calling H7 superior in that field is an embarrassing statement.
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Antalyan
Antalyan


Promising
Supreme Hero
H7 Forever
posted May 22, 2016 08:51 PM

Elvin said:
Antalyan said:
Datapack said:
Antalyan said:
Best gameplay for multiplayer combats (at least from Ubi games).


H5


H5 had very weak heroes and unbalanced armies.

H7 has better heroes (level 30), armies and factions are more different to each other in combat,

H5 got played to the death. H7 has yet to see any online play, major failure in this regard.

As for army variety and gameplay, you must not have played H5 or didn't play long enough to understand it. Calling H7 superior in that field is an embarrassing statement.


Speaking about quick fight/combat games only, I am convinced about what I have said, I have never enjoyed quick fights in H5 (unlike the rest of the game).

I finished H5 campaigns with all its datadiscs 5 times or something like that, so I think I know it enough

Speaking about the H5 gameplay generally, I like it a lot, although it has several things I like more in H7 than I did in H5 but it would be really off-topic, so I will not describe them here.

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yogi
yogi


Promising
Famous Hero
of picnics
posted May 22, 2016 09:45 PM

Antalyan said:

Speaking about the H5 gameplay generally, I like it a lot, although it has several things I like more in H7 than I did in H5 but it would be really off-topic, so I will not describe them here.


actually it would be on topic, and im sorta curious, if you feel like sharing

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Antalyan
Antalyan


Promising
Supreme Hero
H7 Forever
posted May 23, 2016 05:33 PM

yogi said:
Antalyan said:

Speaking about the H5 gameplay generally, I like it a lot, although it has several things I like more in H7 than I did in H5 but it would be really off-topic, so I will not describe them here.


actually it would be on topic, and im sorta curious, if you feel like sharing


Ok, here is something

- flanking, good inovation for combat
- both might & magic heroes for each faction
- arcane knowledges system is probably the best way of learning spells, good perks giving certain spells area effect (not mass, it was op)
- choices in towntrees
- improved thieves guilds
- improved caravans
- magic guilds with specialized school choice
- more magic schools giving higher variability
- 2 champions
- unique warfares
- fortifications system (town guard)
- more diverse battlefields (sizes, objects, predefined starting in the midle...)
- racial abilities fitting the factions sometimes a bit more than H5 ones imao

I have also some negative things to add to some of the things above but I will not pollute with them this positive thread
(for more info go to my feedback, link below)


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yogi
yogi


Promising
Famous Hero
of picnics
posted May 24, 2016 11:35 PM

good list, thanks.  performance and ai aside i enjoyed the beta, now im just waiting for the game to be finished (queue jeopardy theme)..
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frostymuaddib
frostymuaddib


Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
posted May 26, 2016 05:35 PM

Antalyan said:


- flanking, good inovation for combat



This kind of flanking, no. They said that they will rework it in Rise of Hamsters, but we shall see
Antalyan said:

- both might & magic heroes for each faction



With current skill system and hero specs, this is pointless.

Antalyan said:

- magic guilds with specialized school choice
- more magic schools giving higher variability



This, I cannot agree with. They messed up with 7 schools.

Antalyan said:

- improved caravans



I don't know much of the caravans in H7. What is the improvement?
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The_green_drag
The_green_drag


Supreme Hero
posted May 26, 2016 09:42 PM

I agree with frosty

And the only improvement to caravans I can see is tied with area of control. If the dwelling is within your town or fort's area of control then you can buy the creatures from said castle or fort.

Some may call it an improvement, others may call it dumbing the game down further.

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natalka
natalka


Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
posted May 27, 2016 12:56 PM

caravans got a downgrade because before you can load other troops on the caravan because it appeared on the adventure map.

antalyan said:

- more diverse battlefields (sizes, objects, predefined starting in the midle...)



predefined starting in middle is so crappy. They copied idea from h3 but added their own understanding to it. Your army is placed in the middle in a way that you can`t control their exact positions as it is in h3. When I asked them to do something about this , I have been told that it was an ambush..

Did they fix the fact that on those battlefields the left stacks could be flanked right away because they have their back turned to you?

These guys are so hopeless.

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted May 27, 2016 01:12 PM

And all of this could have been resolved if only the defender turned to face the attacker for the first attack of that turn. On top of all the other benefits.
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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
posted May 27, 2016 01:46 PM

Not that we didn't tell them right away, mind you.

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