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Shivaz
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posted April 28, 2016 02:43 AM |
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Edited by Shivaz at 02:45, 28 Apr 2016.
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Predator Creature (Alien Town)
So... my first attempt to create a new creature, I'd some idea of creating an Alien town, can be intresting 
Well I've many ideas, unfortunately I don't have the experience and the knowledge to do all I want.
I don't know how to create creatures using the programs I found in the forum threads or how to animate them, so I've made it in Illustrator just a static one to see how it goes.
FIY, drawing/illustration is not my top skill, so be gentle 
If someone can explain how to create creatures in the traditional way, and how to animate them and all that, i'll be glad.
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Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
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posted April 28, 2016 07:27 AM |
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my first attempt to create a new creature, I'd some idea of creating an Alien town
Hold on for a second and give us a number of new towns created from scratch and ever completed
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Bes
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 28, 2016 10:04 AM |
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Edited by Bes at 10:05, 28 Apr 2016.
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Shivaz,you are not alone ;-)
link it: http://wforum.heroes35.net/showthread.php?tid=3912
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Baronus
Legendary Hero
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posted April 28, 2016 11:12 AM |
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New version of Kregans :-) There is I see russian project. You can do it together. Maybe Inferno replacing using Era or VCMI?
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Shivaz
Hired Hero
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posted April 28, 2016 02:53 PM |
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@Warmonger, lol i've many ideas for creatures and towns... but drawing is not my best skill, i even don't know how they color it so it'll look like heroes 3 creatures.
@Bes, My russian is rusty but I can see that they made all the creatures in teory with stats and everything. it looks cool, but no one attempted to create one?
@Baronus, I've no problem collaborate with someone and help to create the town
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Warmonger
Promising
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posted April 28, 2016 03:06 PM |
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lol i've many ideas for creatures and towns... but drawing is not my best skill
Lol like literally thousands of people before you. Ideas are not quite enough nor they are worth anything. That's how we got 4000 threads in this forum but only a handful of playable mods and at most 2 finished towns (Cove and Forge).
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Shivaz
Hired Hero
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posted April 28, 2016 04:01 PM |
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Warmonger said:
Lol like literally thousands of people before you. Ideas are not quite enough nor they are worth anything. That's how we got 4000 threads in this forum but only a handful of playable mods and at most 2 finished towns (Cove and Forge).
Cove Town is awesome! I like to play with it, who ever did it big applause.
I can illustrate building and even artifacts, but the characters is the problem for me, to sketch it from head.
artifacts can be based on real items/weapons, so it's easier to look and draw them.
Or if you've a rough drawing in pencil I can convert it to vector, and color it, no problem.
My graphic style is more modern (like flat design/vectors), never did 2D stuff like in H3, even don't know how they do the colors lol.
But, if there is a way to colloborate and work together with someone, couple people and everyone is doing some part, I think we can create something. anyway, it worth the try
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Shivaz
Hired Hero
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posted April 28, 2016 05:40 PM |
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This is an artifact I created now for example.
I like it much more, and I can create many like this.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted April 28, 2016 05:48 PM |
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no, you created nothing, just designed a shapeless sprite and you call it artefact. Is not in the game, it has no properties, we can't use it is just an idea 
I think what Warmonger means is that people should be realistic, start with little things, as draw creatures and ANIMATE them, draw some map dwellings and ANIMATE them, code them into game, and when they feel enough motivated, they can finally aim to such project as a new town, which means ~20 new creatures, same number of town dwellings and same number of map dwellings. + heroes, artefacts (if any), new specialities, new abilities.
I mean this thread will go for a week, then you will be gone, once you see how little you can do and how long it takes.
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Homer171
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted April 28, 2016 07:35 PM |
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Start from small. Make one new creature or replace existing one. There are lot of sprites in single unit alone. Animations, map designs, shadows, sounds and potrait... Ask yourself do you really want to do it all, or just like the idea of it.
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phe
Famous Hero
Life and Freedom
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posted April 28, 2016 08:01 PM |
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...and never listen to discouraging ones...
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Shivaz
Hired Hero
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posted April 28, 2016 08:35 PM |
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Salamandre said:
no, you created nothing, just designed a shapeless sprite and you call it artefact. Is not in the game, it has no properties, we can't use it is just an idea
I think what Warmonger means is that people should be realistic, start with little things, as draw creatures and ANIMATE them, draw some map dwellings and ANIMATE them, code them into game, and when they feel enough motivated, they can finally aim to such project as a new town, which means ~20 new creatures, same number of town dwellings and same number of map dwellings. + heroes, artefacts (if any), new specialities, new abilities.
I mean this thread will go for a week, then you will be gone, once you see how little you can do and how long it takes.
Well, everything needs to start from something, an idea, concept, sketch and so on.
Of course it's a lot of work and not easy, but I want to help and I'm just offering my help and trowing some ideas and designs, you can use it or lose it, if someone want to combine forces and take it on... we can do it.
About the artifact, it's not nothing, you know why? cuz it came from outer space, it's an alien rune that gives you great moral
Just cuz you liked it, I've made another artifact just for you.
Homer171 said:
Start from small. Make one new creature or replace existing one. There are lot of sprites in single unit alone. Animations, map designs, shadows, sounds and potrait... Ask yourself do you really want to do it all, or just like the idea of it.
Yeah I'm trying, I just don't know codding, animation (just in After Effects, but not sure it'll work) or the programs that everyone is using, I tried to search for it and watch some youtube tutorials, but it didn't helped me.
I do understand what you all saying, and as I mentioned before, design characters is not my best skill, I tried... but I'm offering to help if someone want to take this project or any other, and I can help with artifacts or dwellings (i can try to create one and see how it goes).
Anyway, couple days ago I even didn't know that all of this is exists, that there's new towns, creatures, artifacts etc... so I'm excited to help cuz I love this game.
I know it's a hard work, but I can try to help with what ever I can
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Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted April 28, 2016 08:53 PM |
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Shivaz said:
Salamandre said:
Yeah I'm trying, I just don't know codding, animation (just in After Effects, but not sure it'll work) or the programs that everyone is using
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1. First you must learn to view and explore lod files - all h3 animations are there. It's easy with MM Archive.
2. Next you must learn exctract def and pcx files from h3sprite.lod and h3bitmap.lod files - MM Archive it's the best tool.
3. Next you must learn to view def files - DefViewer is good choice.
4. YOU MUST DRAW, COLOR AND ANIMATE your graphic - photoshop? blender? any advanced graphic software?
5. You must create valid def files - DEF EDITOR is the key.
6. You must replace original def files in game. It's easy with MM Archive.
So, that's short description
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Shivaz
Hired Hero
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posted April 28, 2016 10:20 PM |
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avatar said:
1. First you must learn to view and explore lod files - all h3 animations are there. It's easy with MM Archive.
2. Next you must learn exctract def and pcx files from h3sprite.lod and h3bitmap.lod files - MM Archive it's the best tool.
3. Next you must learn to view def files - DefViewer is good choice.
4. YOU MUST DRAW, COLOR AND ANIMATE your graphic - photoshop? blender? any advanced graphic software?
5. You must create valid def files - DEF EDITOR is the key.
6. You must replace original def files in game. It's easy with MM Archive.
So, that's short description
Awesome! thanks a lot, finally someone is giving me some apps to work with
So, I found "MM Archive", can't find the other... or maybe they called by different name.
There's some program called "DEFka", I think it's for replacing creature.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted April 28, 2016 10:29 PM |
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All applications you need are annexed to mod manager. Open mod manager, you see them in list.
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted April 28, 2016 10:57 PM |
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I'd say that making a creature first may be pretty challenging. I'd suggest to start with something easier, like replacing a portrait. You just need to use MMArchive to open H3bitmap.lod and search for portraits. There are 2 types of images you need to repalce, the big portrait (from hero window, garrison etc.) which are named as HPL*** (where * are digits) and the small portrait, the one you see on the right in the hero list, they are named HPS***. This should help you get a grip on the workflow. Also be sure to make the portrait the needed size (64*64 pixels for large portraits and 48*32 for small ones)
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Shivaz
Hired Hero
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posted April 28, 2016 11:37 PM |
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Salamandre said:
All applications you need are annexed to mod manager. Open mod manager, you see them in list.
Yeah, found it in the "Era" addon, but it messed my game, the Era is not working and now the "HoTA" is not working, just the regular HoMM3 
But the programs all there.
LizardWarrior said:
I'd say that making a creature first may be pretty challenging. I'd suggest to start with something easier, like replacing a portrait. You just need to use MMArchive to open H3bitmap.lod and search for portraits. There are 2 types of images you need to repalce, the big portrait (from hero window, garrison etc.) which are named as HPL*** (where * are digits) and the small portrait, the one you see on the right in the hero list, they are named HPS***. This should help you get a grip on the workflow. Also be sure to make the portrait the needed size (64*64 pixels for large portraits and 48*32 for small ones)
Got it, thanks!
The larger portrait is 58*64
Anyway, I created new portraits, and found them in the file you named using MMArchive, but I can't find how to replace them.
I was able to extract both portraits that's it, don't know how to replace 
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revolut1oN
Famous Hero
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posted April 28, 2016 11:41 PM |
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Yet another useless topic with literally no content, some wishful thinking and a bunch of not so smart and by no means fitting ideas.
I guess GL doesn't matter here since it won't be finished anyway so I just wish you to HF.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted April 28, 2016 11:43 PM |
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No, Era did not mess your game, you messed it because didn't RTFM. Era should be installed on SoD/Complete, Hota should be installed on SoD/Complete. Once you install ONE of them, your game isn't any longer SoD/Complete.
Both are not compatible.
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Shivaz
Hired Hero
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posted April 29, 2016 12:07 AM |
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Salamandre said:
No, Era did not mess your game, you messed it because didn't RTFM. Era should be installed on SoD/Complete, Hota should be installed on SoD/Complete. Once you install ONE of them, your game isn't any longer SoD/Complete.
Both are not compatible.
Oh... good to know. I'll re-install the game.
Thanks.
@revolut1oN, I'm just trying to learn all this new stuff, so either help by explaining to someone new or just don't say anything, it's not helpful at all.
I understand that it's really bothers you (and others) that a new guy comes and trying to conquer the game in 1 day, but anyhow, I'm here to learn, explore and try new things, it will take time.
And I'm kinda lost with all those programs anyway, so if you can help, please do it instead of complaining, it'll be very appreciated.
Don't know why you all sound so discouraged and mad at me cuz I'm trying
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