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Thread: Punishing athletes for political decisions
Blizzardboy
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posted June 01, 2016 10:45 PM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 23:03, 01 Jun 2016.

Punishing athletes for political decisions

Rio is just around the corner and this is something that irks me. It just goes against my intuitive concept of justice,  which is suppose to be to pose an infraction on a person to correct a behavior, or in harsher scenarios to protect the public,  or both. But hey. Intuitions can be unreliable.

What is the logic of these committees when they ban athletes from being able to represent their country? Or if they do compete they have to do it as an independent athlete. Do they think screwing over athletes is going to cause a change of policy? Couldnt it just as easily have the opposite effect by embittering people?

To me this comes down to validating public bloodlust from the top down. Or maybe the top caving to pressure. Or a bit of both. It's sort of a less direct and less vulgar version of crowds demeaning lawbreakers by throwing food at them or watching them be tortured for entertainment. The Olympic committee knows some people will be upset by a group's participation,  so they validate and maybe even promote bloodlust by punishing dedicated athletes that have jack**** to do with any of the political turmoil.

* When I say bloodlust,  what mean is giving an infraction on a person for the sake of sensual gratification.
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Kayna
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posted June 02, 2016 04:20 AM

The top caving in to pressure or genuine moral decision. Got any examples?

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blizzardboy
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posted June 02, 2016 05:52 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 18:00, 02 Jun 2016.

Kayna said:
The top caving in to pressure or genuine moral decision. Got any examples?


Widespread doping problems in Russian athletes (far moreso on average). Other athletes are annoyed and want Russia gone. The innocents among Russian competitors get the ax with everybody else at the behest of self-righteous people that want an Olympics built on exclusivity. Widespread embitterment among the Russian population at a time where cooler heads are needed more than at any time since 1989, and even before that.

There are other ways to solve this besides barring entire countries or going through the cycle of taking medals away after the fact. Like having more of a spine with checking athletes and making those drug checks monitored by an intra-national 3rd party wing of the Olympics. You actually have had athletes not being cooperative and yet still competing. If athletes don't comply to every single check, then they can watch in the stands. Period. Competing is a luxury not a rit.
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markkur
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posted June 02, 2016 08:29 PM

blizzardboy said:
There are other ways to solve this besides barring entire countries or going through the cycle of taking medals away after the fact. Like having more of a spine with checking athletes and making those drug checks monitored by an intra-national 3rd party wing of the Olympics. You actually have had athletes not being cooperative and yet still competing. If athletes don't comply to every single check, then they can watch in the stands. Period. Competing is a luxury not a rit.


I'd extend this to all professional sports too. If a pro American footballer, European soccer-star or an English cricket-player doesn't like it? He can get out and go back to the real world.

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fred79
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posted June 02, 2016 08:47 PM

i say make all the drugs they take legal. their life after the olympics suck anyway. i mean seriously; what tf does an olympian do after they're too old for the olympics? do wheaties commercials? write books about their lives? visit schools and tell kids to reach for the stars(provided they were even good at what they did)? go on to train other olympians, like a washed-up rocky(ya bum!)?

if we're going to discuss/regulate the integrity of the athletes' bodies, shouldn't we first discuss/regulate the rampant amount of corruption in sports first? i mean, how most(if not all) of it is rotten to the core, and only to make millions off of people actually wasting their health doing these things? the business sector as well as the public?

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