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posted December 19, 2019 08:43 PM |
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It seems like Boris will actually get Brexit done
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posted December 20, 2019 03:09 AM |
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Wow, the Rise of Skywalker actually got a bad review on Rotten Tomatoes. Haven't been this optimistic about Star Wars in a while. I'm starting to think it will be a good movie.
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posted December 20, 2019 05:34 PM |
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CountBezuhoff said:
It seems like Boris will actually get Brexit done
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He won't. At this point, Brexit is a perpetual joke.
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posted December 20, 2019 05:38 PM |
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If I may add, Kip, the EU itself is a perpetual joke. Or to be accurate, a hoax. 
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posted December 20, 2019 07:19 PM |
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To us, Eastern bloc bleepheads, or, to be specific, the "elites" that govern our countries, it is a gold mine of massive proportions.
Point is, if any of britcucks wanted to go through with Brexit, they'd already be done so.
That Mega Cathedral you guys are building(assuming it is real and not total BS)? how much EU funds were leeched off of that project into the pockets of guys running the scam?
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posted December 20, 2019 07:25 PM |
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Kipshasz said:
That Mega Cathedral you guys are building(assuming it is real and not total BS)? how much EU funds were leeched off of that project into the pockets of guys running the scam?
It's actually been consecrated in November last year. They said that approximately 110 million Brussels Roubles were spent in total.
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posted December 20, 2019 07:32 PM |
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The EU is the gateway to the future and helps keep Europe from turning into a dump.
The USA has had federal money being pumped disproportionately into different states for a long time, for example, lots of money went into rebuilding the south after the Civil and for a long time afterwards (and still some today), but nowadays southern states have a much stronger service economy and are even turning into cultural hubs, whereas it used to be just New York and a few other places. There was a lot of room to criticize the model but it has massively paid off. It takes time though.
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posted December 20, 2019 07:48 PM |
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Gateway to what future exactly? I'm not sure it's the one I want.
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posted December 20, 2019 08:32 PM |
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Drakon-Deus said:
Gateway to what future exactly? I'm not sure it's the one I want.
into a soylent fueled future that the UK is in. where historical mansions get converted into council housing. among other things.
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posted December 21, 2019 12:11 AM |
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Blizzardboy said:
The EU is the gateway to the future and helps keep Europe from turning into a dump.
The USA has had federal money being pumped disproportionately into different states for a long time, for example, lots of money went into rebuilding the south after the Civil and for a long time afterwards (and still some today), but nowadays southern states have a much stronger service economy and are even turning into cultural hubs, whereas it used to be just New York and a few other places. There was a lot of room to criticize the model but it has massively paid off. It takes time though.
It's main goal is to keep another France/Germany war from happening and it's actually doing that great.
Because the US(and to smaller extent UK) financed soviet domination over Europe in the second world war far too much, the end result was a neutered Germany and ravaged Eastern Europe. Because of this the EU for the longest time was relatively equally lead with France/Italy/Uk/Germany. Now with UK leaving and Italian(and to some extent French) finances going down the drain, we're pretty much left with France/Germany in the leadership positions. Both countries economies are stagnant, French finances are in the red, Germany doesn't have an independent military, neither has a growing population. It's a mess untill Italy or Spain decide they want to fix their snow. Honestly Poland is probably gonna get their stuff in order first. Even if they're doing the opposite right now they'll probably wise up soon enough to laugh at the italians who sold all their stuff to the chinese.
As for fixing economy of the eastern south/eastern countries. There are some good and bad ones. Places like Estonia that already had a proper culture of work ethics and relatively little corruption are doing great(not so much for the Russian population though.) Countries with rampant corruption and questionable work culture not so great. Even with all the German investment funneled into a lot of these countries they're still doing pretty bad because the education had been supbar for centuries. That takes generations to fix. It's not an easy goal that you can sell to people today that a century from now we'll be better off for helping someone foreigners.
Because that's the problem right there. In the case of USA, all of that land was gained as part of the union. It might have been stolen, cheated, bought or conquered but it was still recognised as the nation's own. In the case of EU they are still different countries. With different people. With different culture. With different ethics. You can't just advocate something as "for Europeans" like you can "for Americans". A lot of Dutch, Belgian, German, Finnish, Danish, Swedish, British, etc. don't want to pay for slavs' and mediterraneans' screw ups. And a lot of those people receiving the money don't want to learn to be any better because being inefficient and incompetent is part of their way of life. It's not easy to change, nor is it easy to convince the change is worth paying for.
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posted December 21, 2019 12:53 AM |
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I don't disagree with any of the major logistical or ethnic challenges of an EU but there are some misconceptions here:
It's more an issue of corruption both from the top-down and from the bottom-up than it is work ethic. Yeah, there are distinctions: broadly speaking the northern half of Europe works hard and drinks harder and the southern half takes 3 years to eat to eat a meal but the average Greek works much longer hours than a northern European and definitely couldn't be described as lazy, granted some of these changes are the result of the meltdown in 2008.
The main issue with Greece is that such a large mass of the population didn't pay their taxes that it is was almost impossible to set any kind of budget, and it's VERY difficult to reverse a cultural mindset once it has been around for a few generations. Think about it: what if half of Finland simply decided not to properly pay their taxes year after year? How could the government track down and audit everybody? It couldn't. It wouldn't have the resources. They would be years behind schedule and the courts would be spammed to death. And the consequences would be serious. Some countries just rely on the fact that it's a cultural norm and expectation to pay your taxes and then they can focus on more serious cases of tax evasion. Nobody ever sat down and created this norm but it just ended up developing that way because reasons.
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posted December 23, 2019 01:11 AM |
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It’s funny you think there is an option of not paying taxes. Because there isn’t. It’s automatically deducted on all of your transactions. It’s not like US where you have to do your taxes yearly. At the start of the year you get a notification of what your tax rate for the year will be and should you wish to change it to correct it. That then goes to your employer who pays your taxes straight from your pay. Then at the end of the year they check everyone and corrective tax/return is set for the next year.
I wasn’t specifically talking about greece. It’s the whole of southern Europe that’s like that. Working a lot of hours =/= productive. It means you’re inefficient.
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posted December 25, 2019 08:21 PM |
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posted December 26, 2019 02:04 AM |
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@Joonas
I don't know what you're talking about but I assumed everybody did that. Automatically deducting taxes from paychecks is just normal. Tax evasion is still a thing in Finland; there are other loopholes for a person/company to avoid paying as much as they should.
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posted December 26, 2019 02:16 AM |
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posted January 29, 2020 07:10 PM |
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N. Farage:
“I want to stress that we are not anti-European. I love Europe but I loathe the EU.”
The EU, he said, had discovered that the “UK is too big to bully”, adding, “If, in ten years, what we have achieved is a catalyst for change elsewhere then I will be absolutely delighted.”
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posted January 29, 2020 07:52 PM |
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In fact british ,lords' dont want to leave UE. A lot of them are masons in secret societes and other satanist. EU is only preparation to NWO. One global total government. Ordinary people was made uprising aggainist it. Its some trouble for these evil plans. But they play game and experiment on british society. How strong is ressistance. Negotiation theater is to make people tired and show them that they can nothing. And must vote like these thugs wants. Of course we dont want any NWO and global tyranny.
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posted January 31, 2020 11:54 PM |
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Happy Brexit Day!
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posted February 01, 2020 01:07 PM |
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GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
My contingency plan is actually moving to Canada and not the UK, but in the event I do I approve of what the home country did.
Next, Italy please, Rome must be restored to its proper status.
I say we need to make the Rome-London-Moscow axis, and finally humble Paris and Berlin and restore them to their proper place, one in a landfill and the other as the capital of a vassal of the emperor.
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posted February 01, 2020 06:08 PM |
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Axis with russian thugs :0)) Road to Gulag. Its halfAsia.. Another civilisation than latin Europe. If something sholud be solid must be the same way of thinking.
Freedom! Independence! Down with UESSR!
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