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Ebonheart
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posted June 26, 2016 10:23 AM

It's always like that for both sides. I personally hope that the EU will collapse.

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JollyJoker
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posted June 26, 2016 10:51 AM

Ebonheart said:
It's always like that for both sides. I personally hope that the EU will collapse.
That's an utterly foolish hope.

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Neraus
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posted June 26, 2016 11:09 AM

blizzardboy said:
They were different landscapes. Much of the reason why Europe couldn't be united in the 16th century was related to the religious and political turmoil at the time. Queen Elizabeth was very deliberate in allowing the southern powers around Italy to contend with the invading fleets alone while she consolidated power. She put the Western world in grave jeopardy for personal political gain.



That's why I'll have such a great feeling of Schaudenfreude if Britain collapses unto itself.

Did I ever mention that Sicily was pillaged and forcefully annexed into Piedmont due to the British helping Garibaldi?
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Ebonheart
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posted June 26, 2016 11:10 AM

JollyJoker said:
That's an utterly foolish hope.

You are entitled to think what you wish. But I find the EU destroying the democracy. Not to mention the fact that I want the new economic 1929 crash to be over with before the fall becomes too hard to rise up from.

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EnergyZ
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posted June 26, 2016 11:15 AM

But it's not like the European Union was responsible for the crash. Plus, why would you think the EU is destroying democracy, when out there, the US had so many wars outside their country, against people's wills (and therefore, against democracy)?
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Ebonheart
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posted June 26, 2016 11:23 AM
Edited by Ebonheart at 11:26, 26 Jun 2016.

It's not about the 1929 crash EnergyZ, but the coming crash that will be of a similar magnitude.
The reason for why I feel EU destroys democracy is because of the long distance between the people and the decision makers. People have no idea what is decided within the EU unless the media actually highlights it. It's also very problematic to have the policy of letting others who live somewhere else with different views decide in matters where you live.

Also I do not believe the US democracy to be any better. In fact I reckon Princeton University released a study which came to the conclussion that democracy is practically almost gone within the US.

I personally believe that the model Switzerland employ is the one to be had. Representative democracy with direct democracy having the final word in every question and decision.

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Neraus
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posted June 26, 2016 11:48 AM

To put it bluntly, a democracy cannot work in a large country, truth be told, you'd need a largely decentralized government, to allow the various regional autonomies to hold enough power to decide the best for their territory.

At that point the state should basically be the arbiter of the situation, that watches over the decisions of the regional governments and deems if they are over-reaching with their policies.

After all, if I'm not wrong, that's why direct democracy seems to work in Switzerland.
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Tsar-ivor
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posted June 26, 2016 04:02 PM
Edited by Tsar-ivor at 16:04, 26 Jun 2016.

Ye am a British citizen need to renew my Hungarian pass and this all Brexit won't bother me too much. Plus was just at a wedding nothing like sleeping on a floor in a suit hungover. That's a new level of discomfort I'll tell ya.

Mother's family all voted quit except my aunt and her daughters. Kinda felt awkward tho there was no hostility thank god.
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Blizzardboy
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posted June 26, 2016 05:03 PM

Jeremy Corbyn is being pressured to step down after running a Remain campaign less charismatically than a gargoyle.
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Ebonheart
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posted June 26, 2016 05:13 PM

Blizzardboy said:
Jeremy Corbyn is being pressured to step down after running a Remain campaign less charismatically than a gargoyle.

Easy there BB, remember, Gargoyles are just bait.

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Zenofex
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posted June 26, 2016 06:01 PM

JollyJoker said:
That's an utterly foolish hope.
Hardly, the EU will collapse, even if it takes 1000 years. Nothing is eternal.

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JollyJoker
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posted June 26, 2016 06:27 PM

I didn't say it was a futile or vain hope, but a foolish hope.

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Ebonheart
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posted June 26, 2016 06:30 PM

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

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Tsar-ivor
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posted June 26, 2016 08:12 PM

Blizzardboy said:
Jeremy Corbyn is being pressured to step down after running a Remain campaign less charismatically than a gargoyle.


Not happening.
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JollyJoker
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posted June 27, 2016 07:59 PM

To the point and hilarious

And after the event

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artu
artu


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posted June 27, 2016 08:32 PM

JollyJoker said:
To the point and hilarious

And after the event

Let me tell you another hilarious thing, the ex-mayor with the anti-immigration policies he's making fun of, his great-grandfather is a Turk, and quite a famous one actually.

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JollyJoker
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posted June 27, 2016 08:39 PM

That IS hilarious. Incidentally, my wife and me agree that both Johnson and Cameron look like Matt Lucas characters - you know, the Little Britain comedian.

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Ebonheart
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posted June 27, 2016 08:55 PM

I don't see what is so funny.

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Salamandre
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posted June 27, 2016 09:00 PM

yeah artu, me neither, can't see what is fun with his father being turk.

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artu
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posted June 27, 2016 09:05 PM

Well, don't you think there is an irony in having ancestory that you're making a political career by trying to block? If Donald Trump's great grandfather would turn out to be Arabic, wouldn't you consider that as something a little inconvenient for his rhetoric?
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