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Agbaar
Agbaar

Tavern Dweller
posted April 18, 2017 05:04 AM

Galaad said:
I am sorry if I missed your point a bit, but your sentence "avoid at all cost until developers show more respect" came to me as profoundly unfair, considering the enormous amount of fun I have with this game.


Fair enough, that is probably too harsh, and I actually like a lot of the game mechanics. All in all, I think it's a good game (for many of the reasons you've stated) and want to support it, so it's a testament to how frustrating the luck factor can be that my reactions have gotten that harsh.

I want to support the game, but I've stopped spending money until they do something about the luck factor. A simple mileage system would go such a long way. And even though you can be successful working with whatever you can get, having less and less interesting pieces is still more frustrating than the alternative. Sad to me that the net result of this is that I've spent less money on this game than others.

So yes, avoid at all costs is probably too strong. But I think it's a fair warning to everyone that the RNG can be punishing and frustrating and to know that going in.
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 18, 2017 08:38 AM
Edited by Galaad at 08:41, 18 Apr 2017.

Isildur said:
Anyone have any advice on tower 51? Wave 1 is pretty easy for me but wave 2 destroys me. Right now I'm using enraged keeper, treant, ettin, owl, and pegasus


AFAIK only Dulkan has beaten it so far.

Dulkan said:
51: Ettin, Forest Giant, Spider Queen, Owl, Muse

I basically played without combos, between those 2 parties the owl was the only combo i could trigger.

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Dulkan
Dulkan


Known Hero
posted April 18, 2017 09:28 AM
Edited by Dulkan at 09:29, 18 Apr 2017.

Galaad said:
Isildur said:
Anyone have any advice on tower 51? Wave 1 is pretty easy for me but wave 2 destroys me. Right now I'm using enraged keeper, treant, ettin, owl, and pegasus


AFAIK only Dulkan has beaten it so far.

Dulkan said:
51: Ettin, Forest Giant, Spider Queen, Owl, Muse

I basically played without combos, between those 2 parties the owl was the only combo i could trigger.



I could post a detailed guide on how the level works and what you need to beat it, but I really don't want to do so on a public forum right now. If any Kreegans or friends need help with Level 51 feel free to message me and I'll help you in private.

@Isildur sent you a message.
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Darkcyber
Darkcyber

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posted April 18, 2017 09:45 AM

Galaad said:
He means the first pic (your previous party) does not show, and yes it's a bit big for smaller screens like mine but it doesn't abuse stretching either.
I think this party is indeed better than your previous one, although the fact both your healer and nuker are same color might be a bit fragile versus its counter but you also got the white drag with combos dependent from the other colors so I guess it's manageable.
Behemoth hum, isn't it complete crap? Everytime I face one if it hits me it barely does a scratch.

Stevie said:
Anybody heard from Lunaticon lately?


Sadly no, I don't think the bench is necessary for this challenge but if we still have no news when next one starts will have to.


That's strange about picture, because I see it in my quoteed message. I'll change that all in the future.

Behemoth can help a lot of times. His skill can throw enemy boss for two steps later and it gives you a chance to nuke with all your power. That's why he is in team. Later I'll change his combo point to a needed colors and he will able to make a combo against wind creatures.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 18, 2017 10:24 AM

Darkcyber said:
Behemoth can help a lot of times. His skill can throw enemy boss for two steps later and it gives you a chance to nuke with all your power.


But most stunners/silencers delay turns for much more than that in comparison (e.g. Forest Giant, Treant, for greens), the only thing I liked with Behemoth is it can stun full row or almost for couple of turns, but then the damage he does seemed really weak and that mass stun doesn't even trigger all times. That said I only have experience against it as I don't have any in my collection.
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markmasters
markmasters


Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
posted April 18, 2017 11:14 AM

Agbaar said:
Galaad said:
I am sorry if I missed your point a bit, but your sentence "avoid at all cost until developers show more respect" came to me as profoundly unfair, considering the enormous amount of fun I have with this game.


Fair enough, that is probably too harsh, and I actually like a lot of the game mechanics. All in all, I think it's a good game (for many of the reasons you've stated) and want to support it, so it's a testament to how frustrating the luck factor can be that my reactions have gotten that harsh.

I want to support the game, but I've stopped spending money until they do something about the luck factor. A simple mileage system would go such a long way. And even though you can be successful working with whatever you can get, having less and less interesting pieces is still more frustrating than the alternative. Sad to me that the net result of this is that I've spent less money on this game than others.

So yes, avoid at all costs is probably too strong. But I think it's a fair warning to everyone that the RNG can be punishing and frustrating and to know that going in.


I hear you, the game is a lot of fun overall but it can be annoying as heck, especially when everybody seems to get all kind of cool stuff and you seem to fall out of that.

many of us have been there, like Galaad mentioned Stevie before who had some very bad luck in the earlier stages, but now has a few of the best (and rare) creatures like the storm giant, I hardly see that one around.

Between level 150 and 210 I didn't make any improvement and I only collected one 4-dot creature which annoyed me to no end. Last week I obtained three 4-dot creatures of which one legendary from a multisummon, even though the creatures themselves are not great, just obtaining them makes you feel a lot more satisfied. Luck can be a weird thing but when it strikes you positively, it's great of course.

Hopefully you roll your dice correctly soon and see the bright side of it , best of luck!

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 18, 2017 11:22 AM
Edited by Galaad at 11:27, 18 Apr 2017.

Guild update

Since the competition is fiercer than ever with the new Dungeon Tiers it's with great sadness I had to put Luna on the bench. Luna has been an excellent guild member and can get back with us at anytime. I take the opportunity to make a small reminder that we are with Marks pretty flexible with RL sidetracking and exceptions to the rules can be made from time to time but please notify either one of us when it happens so we can plan things a bit more in advance. Luna failed the 5k last time but since usually scores around 10k+ was rest turn, but no news at all since a week and no connection at all for this challenge left me no choice to keep it fair to others.
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ANcientDRuids
ANcientDRuids


Famous Hero
(Andruids for short)
posted April 18, 2017 11:32 AM
Edited by ANcientDRuids at 12:31, 18 Apr 2017.

I came up with a strategy for 51th. Kangaroo, Tengu (or some tanky healer), Ettin, Treant and Beetle. What do you think Dulkan? Would it fly?

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EnergyZ
EnergyZ


Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
posted April 18, 2017 12:30 PM

This is a moment of victory. After about 50+ tries, stage 29 is finished. I'll post the team later.

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Galaad
Galaad

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Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 18, 2017 12:32 PM

Gratz
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EnergyZ
EnergyZ


Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
posted April 18, 2017 12:34 PM
Edited by EnergyZ at 12:40, 18 Apr 2017.

Actually, why wait, the team was in this order: kirin, elder darkness elemental, manticore alpha, turquise drake and egghead.

And, somewhat expected, stage 30 is done in one swoop. Gosh.
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 18, 2017 01:14 PM

EnergyZ said:
And, somewhat expected, stage 30 is done in one swoop. Gosh.


Yeah only Boss floors are hard, then difficulty drops until next one.
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Darkcyber
Darkcyber

Tavern Dweller
posted April 18, 2017 06:45 PM

Galaad said:

But most stunners/silencers delay turns for much more than that in comparison (e.g. Forest Giant, Treant, for greens), the only thing I liked with Behemoth is it can stun full row or almost for couple of turns, but then the damage he does seemed really weak and that mass stun doesn't even trigger all times. That said I only have experience against it as I don't have any in my collection.


Treant a little bit weaker than Behemoth and he is silencer
Forest Giant is absent in my current collection

I'll check later if I can use beetle for that but it makes me to delete white dragon which is very good with his debuff.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 18, 2017 06:47 PM

Hey, that is just what I think by looking at your party and is mostly theory, if in practice your party works there is nothing wrong.
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Darkcyber
Darkcyber

Tavern Dweller
posted April 18, 2017 07:22 PM
Edited by Darkcyber at 19:31, 18 Apr 2017.

Galaad said:
Hey, that is just what I think by looking at your party and is mostly theory, if in practice your party works there is nothing wrong.


I tried Treant instead of Behemoth... You was right, it looks better. Especially if silence works successfully


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dulkan
dulkan


Known Hero
posted April 18, 2017 10:17 PM

Darkcyber said:
Galaad said:
Hey, that is just what I think by looking at your party and is mostly theory, if in practice your party works there is nothing wrong.


I tried Treant instead of Behemoth... You was right, it looks better. Especially if silence works successfully




4d beetle and 4d siren. And I still don't have a single 4d event equest epic...

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AlHazin
AlHazin


Promising
Supreme Hero
النور
posted April 18, 2017 10:23 PM

Seems like in sky safari, you either get the three creatures or none in the same game.
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 19, 2017 01:20 AM
Edited by Galaad at 02:06, 19 Apr 2017.

Sabertoothed Assassin's  challenge results!





Wow that challenge, with the new Tiers, was harsh! Basically all the nuttheads together.
As a result no one made it to 10k, even the rank 1.

I guess everyone got surprised by these new conditions, many Kreegans got pretty much rekt, this is a bit problematic concerning the 5k rule but I don't see putting on the bench so much at once as a good thing. We are going to discuss this with Markmasters and share our decision on the matter shortly.
Congratulations to all members who could fulfill the 5k though, I plenty realize things were much harder this time!

Meanwhile, since two officers are currently unavailable, I decided to promote two of the most prominent members at the issue of this challenge, so both Dulkan, who is not only a great asset to the guild but also to this community, as well as Truth, more silent but still showing presence down the forums and constant mobilization in the challenges, have been promoted to officers.
Thanks for your participation and commitment guys
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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


Supreme Hero
posted April 19, 2017 09:30 AM

I dont like the newdrop rates, and I hate that they lie about it.  Last time I had over 50 hyenas, now I have only four, and they never drop anymore, same with boar, I keep getting the boring elephant though, I already have it fully awake.

Now I finally have my 3 dot hyena, i cant awken it instantly.. Making me weaker in defense, as you need hyenas to have a good defense, I never ever even lost a creature against defenses that dont have hyena, phoenix or kangaroo

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 19, 2017 10:19 AM

So, new Legendary Challenge, and it looks like these are twice a month now. The rewards are, 4 dots (that's a first for Legendaries) for top 3 and... A 3 dots Legendary for Top 100.

Ok I don't even want to start to imagine the amount of rants the developers received, three months ago we had a 3 dots Legendary for Top 3 only, now it's for Top 100 and Top 3 gets a 4 dots. I am not taking any complaint from people telling me they can't get any Legendaries or that VCME doesn't care about its playbase any longer. I mean Top 100, that is like giving it to you.

Silver has Dark Elf and Jiangshi. I would prefer Dark Elf, to awaken mine further, too bad we can't choose cups ourselves but maybe that would be exploitable.

Oh and gratz for your lucky summon Dark^^
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