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Isildur
Isildur


Adventuring Hero
posted July 06, 2017 11:28 PM

I like the idea of not getting any mana for killing creatures in dungeon, I think that would be interesting. I think it would also be cool if they took out dungeon preview, I think it would create diversity because you can counter whatever people are using to beat the popular dungeons.
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted July 07, 2017 12:56 AM

Isildur said:
I like the idea of not getting any mana for killing creatures in dungeon, I think that would be interesting.


Getting extra mana on killing creature is part of the strategy when it matters most: when you don't have any mana! So no I wouldn't like that.
Maybe mana should be reset for wave 2...
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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


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posted July 07, 2017 01:21 AM

Isildur said:
I like the idea of not getting any mana for killing creatures in dungeon, I think that would be interesting. I think it would also be cool if they took out dungeon preview, I think it would create diversity because you can counter whatever people are using to beat the popular dungeons.


Not getting mana while the defense creatures have all their special abilities available from the start?

Wha?

You are really a Dark Souls player, imagen there are people that aren't so good in all games please.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted July 07, 2017 01:25 AM

Rakshasa92 said:
You are really a Dark Souls player


Last I checked Isildur is in Stickers.
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AncientDruids
AncientDruids


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(Andruids for short)
posted July 07, 2017 01:37 AM
Edited by AncientDruids at 01:47, 07 Jul 2017.

Galaad said:

Maybe mana should be reset for wave 2...

I would be against. Maybe status effects and debuffs should be carried over the waves?

Rakshasa92 said:

You are really a Dark Souls player, imagen there are people that aren't so good in all games please.

Glamorous rewards await in gaming Valhalla. Git gud and embrace glory and waifus, scrub.



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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


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posted July 07, 2017 01:42 AM

Galaad said:
Rakshasa92 said:
You are really a Dark Souls player


Last I checked Isildur is in Stickers.


I mean the game Dark Souls, you know, the impossible difficult game which only few people can finish, and those people are arrogant about it, with nerds telling other people to GIT GUD.

Isildur probably plays that game :-p

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted July 07, 2017 01:48 AM

AncientDruids said:
Maybe status effects and debuffs should be carried over the waves?


Not against the idea but I doubt it would solve the problem of almost the whole defense being wave 1. Starting wave 2 with mana charged ensures victory in most of the cases.
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Isildur
Isildur


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posted July 07, 2017 02:08 AM

Galaad said:
AncientDruids said:
Maybe status effects and debuffs should be carried over the waves?


Not against the idea but I doubt it would solve the problem of almost the whole defense being wave 1. Starting wave 2 with mana charged ensures victory in most of the cases.


What if they have a higher boost to bosses in the 5 wave dungeons?
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Isildur
Isildur


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posted July 07, 2017 02:35 AM

Rakshasa92 said:
Galaad said:
Rakshasa92 said:
You are really a Dark Souls player


Last I checked Isildur is in Stickers.


I mean the game Dark Souls, you know, the impossible difficult game which only few people can finish, and those people are arrogant about it, with nerds telling other people to GIT GUD.

Isildur probably plays that game :-p


Cmon now Wesley, nothing wrong with being a nerd! Never played it before but it does sound interesting!
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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


Supreme Hero
posted July 07, 2017 11:04 AM

I also finished Dark Souls 3.





With an Cheat Trainer >:-D


There is nothing wrong with being a nerd, but there is something wrong about being a GIT GUD nerd. :-p

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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


Supreme Hero
posted July 07, 2017 12:24 PM

And how do we beat the Sphinx in tower 49? People already beat it?

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AncientDruids
AncientDruids


Famous Hero
(Andruids for short)
posted July 07, 2017 01:39 PM

Rakshasa92 said:
I also finished Dark Souls 3.
With an Cheat Trainer >:-D


Gaming Hell and eternal scrubdom for you it is, then.

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Isildur
Isildur


Adventuring Hero
posted July 07, 2017 04:49 PM

Rakshasa92 said:
And how do we beat the Sphinx in tower 49? People already beat it?


You need to GIT GUD =P
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xexamedes
xexamedes


Adventuring Hero
posted July 07, 2017 05:24 PM

You can't silence the sandstorm summoning, but jolly green giant stuns it into oblivion. And it's other abilities can be silenced.

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scurvynaive
scurvynaive


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posted July 07, 2017 08:57 PM

Isildur said:


I like how you make up numbers to support your claim. At least for me, with the team that I have, I would probably win less than 10% of my matches against draconian dungeons without the watcher.


Very amused that you called me out, perhaps rightly, on making up numbers and then proceed to make up unbelievably bizarre and false numbers for yourself.

Maybe if you put a rat in place of your watcher you would have a 10% win rate but you wouldn't would you?  You would put something just slightly less powerful in his place and the difference would be minimal.  

with a VERY few exceptions no one has anything slightly less powerful than Draconian for dungeon defense.  The drop off in second best unit for dungeon defense is HUGE for all but .001% of the players.  Don't worry though all those players should be moved to silver. Gold tier should be reserved exclusively for stickers.

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Isildur
Isildur


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posted July 07, 2017 09:13 PM
Edited by Isildur at 21:15, 07 Jul 2017.

scurvynaive said:
Isildur said:


I like how you make up numbers to support your claim. At least for me, with the team that I have, I would probably win less than 10% of my matches against draconian dungeons without the watcher.


Very amused that you called me out, perhaps rightly, on making up numbers and then proceed to make up unbelievably bizarre and false numbers for yourself.

Maybe if you put a rat in place of your watcher you would have a 10% win rate but you wouldn't would you?  You would put something just slightly less powerful in his place and the difference would be minimal.  

with a VERY few exceptions no one has anything slightly less powerful than Draconian for dungeon defense.  The drop off in second best unit for dungeon defense is HUGE for all but .001% of the players.  Don't worry though all those players should be moved to silver. Gold tier should be reserved exclusively for stickers.


Umm I said based on my team...I've tested all combinations i have with the creatures I have and this team is the only one that works, the rest lose to top tier draconian dungeons almost every time. All my combos require yellow and my yellow dies every single time.

And yes if I rerolled my combos I could probably create a team that can have a better win rate but I don't have the diamonds or reroll tokens for that right now.
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scurvynaive
scurvynaive


Adventuring Hero
posted July 07, 2017 09:37 PM

Isildur said:
scurvynaive said:
Isildur said:


I like how you make up numbers to support your claim. At least for me, with the team that I have, I would probably win less than 10% of my matches against draconian dungeons without the watcher.


Very amused that you called me out, perhaps rightly, on making up numbers and then proceed to make up unbelievably bizarre and false numbers for yourself.

Maybe if you put a rat in place of your watcher you would have a 10% win rate but you wouldn't would you?  You would put something just slightly less powerful in his place and the difference would be minimal.  

with a VERY few exceptions no one has anything slightly less powerful than Draconian for dungeon defense.  The drop off in second best unit for dungeon defense is HUGE for all but .001% of the players.  Don't worry though all those players should be moved to silver. Gold tier should be reserved exclusively for stickers.


Umm I said based on my team...I've tested all combinations i have with the creatures I have and this team is the only one that works, the rest lose to top tier draconian dungeons almost every time. All my combos require yellow and my yellow dies every single time.

And yes if I rerolled my combos I could probably create a team that can have a better win rate but I don't have the diamonds or reroll tokens for that right now.


But if you didn't have the watcher you would have set up a completely different team long ago.  Stop imagining your current team with Watcher removed and try to imagine how you would have played the game if you never got the watcher.

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Isildur
Isildur


Adventuring Hero
posted July 07, 2017 09:48 PM

scurvynaive said:
Isildur said:
scurvynaive said:
Isildur said:


I like how you make up numbers to support your claim. At least for me, with the team that I have, I would probably win less than 10% of my matches against draconian dungeons without the watcher.


Very amused that you called me out, perhaps rightly, on making up numbers and then proceed to make up unbelievably bizarre and false numbers for yourself.

Maybe if you put a rat in place of your watcher you would have a 10% win rate but you wouldn't would you?  You would put something just slightly less powerful in his place and the difference would be minimal.  

with a VERY few exceptions no one has anything slightly less powerful than Draconian for dungeon defense.  The drop off in second best unit for dungeon defense is HUGE for all but .001% of the players.  Don't worry though all those players should be moved to silver. Gold tier should be reserved exclusively for stickers.


Umm I said based on my team...I've tested all combinations i have with the creatures I have and this team is the only one that works, the rest lose to top tier draconian dungeons almost every time. All my combos require yellow and my yellow dies every single time.

And yes if I rerolled my combos I could probably create a team that can have a better win rate but I don't have the diamonds or reroll tokens for that right now.


But if you didn't have the watcher you would have set up a completely different team long ago.  Stop imagining your current team with Watcher removed and try to imagine how you would have played the game if you never got the watcher.


The team I have now is basically the same team I have used since the beginning except watcher replaced siren, and genie replace archmage. you can ask the guys here when I was in their guild, I had the same set up. The draconian messed me up because almost all my boss creatures are yellow(titan, archmage, sphinx, worm) thankfully I got the watcher and genie and found a team that works!
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scurvynaive
scurvynaive


Adventuring Hero
posted July 07, 2017 11:16 PM

Isildur said:


The team I have now is basically the same team I have used since the beginning except watcher replaced siren, and genie replace archmage. you can ask the guys here when I was in their guild, I had the same set up. The draconian messed me up because almost all my boss creatures are yellow(titan, archmage, sphinx, worm) thankfully I got the watcher and genie and found a team that works!



OK I concede the point for your situation in particular but most people aren't locked into bosses of only one colour.  Watcher replaced a blue not a yellow though what did you do about the rest of your team?

I still use a titan myself even against the drac and yeah he usually dies but usually the frog dies first so I am ok with that.

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Isildur
Isildur


Adventuring Hero
posted July 08, 2017 12:05 AM
Edited by Isildur at 00:11, 08 Jul 2017.

scurvynaive said:
Isildur said:


The team I have now is basically the same team I have used since the beginning except watcher replaced siren, and genie replace archmage. you can ask the guys here when I was in their guild, I had the same set up. The draconian messed me up because almost all my boss creatures are yellow(titan, archmage, sphinx, worm) thankfully I got the watcher and genie and found a team that works!



OK I concede the point for your situation in particular but most people aren't locked into bosses of only one colour.  Watcher replaced a blue not a yellow though what did you do about the rest of your team?

I still use a titan myself even against the drac and yeah he usually dies but usually the frog dies first so I am ok with that.


before my combo was green giant(2 white 1 yellow)-->siren(2 yellow 1 white)-->x2 archmage(2 green 1 blue)-->x8 demon(2blue 1green 1 yellow)-->x8 white giant(2green 1red 1yellow)

now its yellow genie(random)-->watcher(random)-->x2 green giant(same)-->x2 demon(2green 2 yellow)-->x8 white giant(same)

I used about 20 reroll tokens on demon and that was the best combo i can come out with. My other legendaries are just collecting dust because they also have yellow dots: red dragon, white dragon, black dragon, megalodon, green genie, white angel.

The other legendaries i have are not very good in this meta or suck: sphinx, worm, titan, occultist, succubus, behemoth

I got a Valkyrie the other day but I'm still figuring out how to fit it to my team. Need more reroll tokens

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