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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 08, 2017 07:40 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 21:00, 08 Feb 2017.
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You get awakening essences from ranking high on challenges. That time I got second place they gave me two of them. I'll keep them for a really good boss creature.
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I don't know what I find more infuriating, the fact that after spending 83 levels worth of hours I still have just ONE legendary creature in 3x 800 diamonds draws, or the fact that a guy I reported last week is doing fine and dandy in my new group with level 50 and a party of full 6 star creatures with level 90, or the fact that I have players with 200+ levels that beat the crap out of me due to their vastly superior creatures. The game, as fun as it is, has this way of rewarding my avid and honest play with irritation, and I'm not in the mood to cope with it. Just putting it out there if there's anyone to hear it.
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted February 08, 2017 09:05 PM |
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They should put the snobby rich people that can spend 100 euros on diamonds in their own group, and keep those people out of my group. I can't compete with these.
Also can people post all the names of creatures they know off (don't have to put on the names of all the upgraded creatures, just the single creatures.)
I have seen so far:
Kitsune
Baby Egg Dragon
Yeti
All Giants from Giant Quest
Baba Yaga-like Hag
Cyclops
Phoenix
Pegasus
Centaur
Clurichaun
Spider Woman
Crystal Golem
Drill Automaton
Automaton bird
Woodpecker
Boxing Kangaroo
Ifrit
Siren
Jiangshi
Vampire bat
Bee Warrior
Bomb Goblin
Bighorn Lizard
Lizardman
Fire Dancer
Imp
Sneaky Devil
Cat Sidhe / Magic Kitten
Gremlin
Goblin Pirate
Gorgon
Dinosaur (Velociraptor?)
Guy on flying Carpet
Spider
Valkyrie
Sabretooth Man
Dire Wolf
Raven Something
Lava Crocodile
Light Elemental
Darkness Elemental
Flying Squirrel thing
Griffon
Air-Balloon Goblin
Tiny Dog Warrior
Couatl
Cockatrice
Fire Elemental
Water Elemental
Swamp Man
Fire Mushroom
Ladybug Woman
Panda Warrior
Mantis Warrior
Muse
Faerie Dragon
Frog
Wyvern
Pixie
Treant Guy
Stonehead Thing
Mechanical Spider
Oni
Living Sword
Living Mask
Unicorn
Giant Holy Mage
Fat Will o Wisp
Jackalope
Dust Devil
Some Badger guy with a green glowing knife
Gargoyle/Demon Guy
Teeth Eyeball
Jester Goblin
Hydra
Troll
Ogre
Harpy
Tyrannosaurus / Kasai Rex
Dragon Turtle
Enchantress-like woman
A couple of dragons I can't hold appart
Djinn
Voodoo Doll
Jabberwocky
Ant
Shaitan (DAMN that is a cool one, just saw picture on google)
Hunchback
Succubus-like woman
Winter Bird
Pinguin-something
Stymphalian Owl / Clockwork Owl
Some ancient Elephant
Mummy
Skeleton
Trumpet Butterfly
Fire-Boar Man
Flying Fish
Shadow Monster with Huge Mouth
Venus Flytrap
Fire Dragon
Dragonman
Huge Wingless Dragonman-thing
Dragonfly
Barbarian
Clockwork Dwarf-Thing
White winged bearded guy
can someone name some more (maybe with their real names, I don't have the game at the moment at home...)
They should create a living spellbook monster, very cool. Also a Satyr-based monster would be welcome.
Hippogriff (even if I catch it I will instantly destroy it, and I hope I don't get anything in return, sorry can't stand these myth creatures.)
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 08, 2017 09:50 PM |
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You planning to make a compendium of all 500 creatures?  Might not be a bad idea actually.
Meanwhile, I thought it was just my imagination, but no, I have level 83 and 151 energy and I remember perfectly that at 80 I had 150. So I guess that means I'm not receiving an extra energy per level, great. 
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 08, 2017 10:56 PM |
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markmasters said:
To compare: my cyclops (legendary) only deals 300% on a single target
Maybe it compensates with better HP or something, I could post the stats to compare when it gains lvl 75 but I guess yours is 90?
Stevie said:
Meanwhile, I thought it was just my imagination, but no, I have level 83 and 151 energy and I remember perfectly that at 80 I had 150. So I guess that means I'm not receiving an extra energy per level, great.
It adds a permanent +20, not +20 each level.
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Raenus
Famous Hero
Grouchy curmudgeon
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posted February 08, 2017 10:57 PM |
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Stevie said:
I don't know what I find more infuriating, the fact that after spending 83 levels worth of hours I still have just ONE legendary creature in 3x 800 diamonds draws, or the fact that a guy I reported last week is doing fine and dandy in my new group with level 50 and a party of full 6 star creatures with level 90, or the fact that I have players with 200+ levels that beat the crap out of me due to their vastly superior creatures. The game, as fun as it is, has this way of rewarding my avid and honest play with irritation, and I'm not in the mood to cope with it. Just putting it out there if there's anyone to hear it.
I agree completely.
Although at least you HAVE A FREAKIN BOSS! I have also done 3 800 diamond draws AND NOTHING. I have absolutely no sympathy for your plight.
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yasmiel
Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
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posted February 08, 2017 10:57 PM |
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Edited by yasmiel at 22:58, 08 Feb 2017.
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I thought extra +1 max energy is every 2 levels, not every single level.
I'm enjoying the game at my pace. There are players vastly outranking me, but also players below me that are just starting.
Game seems perfect for 2-3 short sessions per day.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 08, 2017 11:20 PM |
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Raenus said:
I agree completely.
Although at least you HAVE A FREAKIN BOSS! I have also done 3 800 diamond draws AND NOTHING. I have absolutely no sympathy for your plight.
That's... Wat. My condolences?
So how is it that I see players with full parties of boss creatures? I mean, they either paid top dollar for that or they're cheating or exploiting bugs or something.
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The Young Traveler
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Raenus
Famous Hero
Grouchy curmudgeon
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posted February 08, 2017 11:30 PM |
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Stevie said:
That's... Wat. My condolences?
So how is it that I see players with full parties of boss creatures? I mean, they either paid top dollar for that or they're cheating or exploiting bugs or something.
Yeah, sorry if I came across as hostile. I am salty as hell about that.
I have no idea how some players got so may boss creatures, maybe cheating, probably lootcifer.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 08, 2017 11:31 PM |
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You can get everything with time, but I'm pretty confident the real money bundles are working. But like Yasmiel said, it doesn't forbid to play. I entered the Phoenix Challenge at lvl 80-90 and could manage to end rank 2 without spending a single cent and using reasonable amount of diamonds (maybe could have even without, rank 3 had 2k less prestige than me). Just don't expect to get the best creatures in the game after a few days of playing.
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Raenus
Famous Hero
Grouchy curmudgeon
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posted February 08, 2017 11:48 PM |
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Edited by Raenus at 23:56, 08 Feb 2017.
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Galaad said:
You can get everything with time, but I'm pretty confident the real money bundles are working. But like Yasmiel said, it doesn't forbid to play. I entered the Phoenix Challenge at lvl 80-90 and could manage to end rank 2 without spending a single cent and using reasonable amount of diamonds (maybe could have even without, rank 3 had 2k less prestige than me). Just don't expect to get the best creatures in the game after a few days of playing.
It's not that, it is the fact that we can not compete with most of the current players. My current group has the top ten with over 4k a piece, top three are over 5k and the number one player already has 6k. There is no one that I can defeat with my dungeon so anytime I try and get high I just get attack after attack. My current avatar in game accurately represents my face every time I sign into the game in the morning. I know that it is not reasonable to have the best creatures yet, what rubs me the wrong way is how many people do have the best creatures. That also leads to the strong getting stronger as they dominate every weekly challenge that they get put in.
EDIT: Just to be clear I am not saying it is a problem with the game, more like an intrinsic flaw with the system. People who pay for the premium currency should naturally do a bit better than people who don't. People who get lucky and roll a boss or two early on are also going to do better than the unlucky ones.
I am not sure if it is a flaw that can be fixed, it just kind of sucks to be in the position of having absolutely no chance of competing with the other players, which means they will win, which makes them stronger, which makes it harder to beat them, which just starts the cycle over again.
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted February 09, 2017 12:01 AM |
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btw, can you also catch the giants in the main quest? Can you catch the bosses at all without paying or winning competitions?
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Raenus
Famous Hero
Grouchy curmudgeon
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posted February 09, 2017 12:05 AM |
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Rakshasa92 said:
btw, can you also catch the giants in the main quest? Can you catch the bosses at all without paying or winning competitions?
No, already asked HungryDragon. Only from events (might include an occasional event quest, not sure) or diamond summons.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 09, 2017 12:14 AM |
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Edited by Galaad at 00:16, 09 Feb 2017.
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Raenus said:
I am not sure if it is a flaw that can be fixed, it just kind of sucks to be in the position of having absolutely no chance of competing with the other players, which means they will win, which makes them stronger, which makes it harder to beat them, which just starts the cycle over again.
They should just enlarge the number of players you can challenge, or at least make sure you can beat one every time. I myself didn't encounter this problem but haven't played many dungeons either.
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Raenus
Famous Hero
Grouchy curmudgeon
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posted February 09, 2017 12:26 AM |
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Galaad said:
They should just enlarge the number of players you can challenge, or at least make sure you can beat one every time. I myself didn't encounter this problem but haven't played many dungeons either.
That would reduce your chances of placing high even more.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 09, 2017 12:34 AM |
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You said you can't compete, so I say there should be people you can beat, it doesn't mean removing the more challenging folks if you want to try attacking higher levels too. Or is there something I'm missing?
One thing I've noticed, is most dungeons are not optimal, so while there may be insanely strong creatures, they don't act fast enough or no combo multipliers nor mana, I could lose to dungeons that were around my level while beating others much stronger because of this.
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Raenus
Famous Hero
Grouchy curmudgeon
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posted February 09, 2017 12:45 AM |
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Edited by Raenus at 00:45, 09 Feb 2017.
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Galaad said:
You said you can't compete, so I say there should be people you can beat, it doesn't mean removing the more challenging folks if you want to try attacking higher levels too. Or is there something I'm missing?
One thing I've noticed, is most dungeons are not optimal, so while there may be insanely strong creatures, they don't act fast enough or no combo multipliers nor mana, I could lose to dungeons that were around my level while beating others much stronger because of this.
I have no problem beating most dungeons, gaining points is not the problem keeping them is. Increasing the pool would not help me gather points but it would make it so that if I managed to get a good number I would become attacked more often because I show up more often. A dungeon without bosses is a much more tantalizing prospect for most players.
When I say that I can not compete I mean that I can not place high in the challenge round. You gain points based on how many points the player you beat had, if I get enough points I just become a bigger target. Plus people already have 6k points in my group, catching them is impossible when every step you take forward knocks you two steps back.
For instance on day 5 of the dungeon challenge last week I lost 1,200 points.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 09, 2017 01:14 AM |
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted February 09, 2017 02:16 AM |
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Edited by artu at 07:36, 09 Feb 2017.
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I have no problem beating most dungeons, gaining points is not the problem keeping them is. Increasing the pool would not help me gather points but it would make it so that if I managed to get a good number I would become attacked more often because I show up more often. A dungeon without bosses is a much more tantalizing prospect for most players.
When I say that I can not compete I mean that I can not place high in the challenge round. You gain points based on how many points the player you beat had, if I get enough points I just become a bigger target. Plus people already have 6k points in my group, catching them is impossible when every step you take forward knocks you two steps back.
I currently didn't continue playing this game since it is kind of similar to the Galaxy of Heroes I'm playing at the moment and both would be too time consuming, you have to keep track of energy refills and so on.. But the general trend in these games is this, there are two main types of players, F2P (fight to play) and P2P (pay to play), getting a few starter packs etc doesnt really count as P2P, since the design of such games is sort of addictive and people really pay A LOT. A few weeks ago, someone in the Galaxy forum wrote "I'm not exactly a P2P, I only spent around 1000 dollars to this game through a year," so, you can imagine the rest...
Now, the P2P's will have more of them very powerful creatures since they are the actual customers but such games also have to keep enough F2P's around and keep them interested since people who pay fortunes on these mobile games are really a minority. So what happens is there are usually loops, certain team or creature combos that a F2P player can reach without buying zillions of crystal packs. If there are forums for this game, search for clues and tips on them. You have to be devoted, don't miss daily refills or tasks and get really good at all the little details and strategy. If you do, you'll have a chance against P2P's but the top ten of such games are usually one or two F2Ps at best and the rest are all P2P.
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markmasters
Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
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posted February 09, 2017 09:29 AM |
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I think the dungeon challenges are fairly balanced in this following matter:
You score high? You get a decent prize but you get in a tough pool next challenge.
You get low score? You get in an easier challenge next week.
This is completely based on only 4 challenges but i sort of recognise the pattern 
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted February 09, 2017 12:03 PM |
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Someone on the facebook page of this game is keep posting this: Want to get stronger for the quest? Use the code tAQttwCxn to get a gift in-game
Is this true? Spam? Dangerous hacker? Annoying self-loving? What is this? What does codes even mean?
The Energy for everyone should be refilled within 1 minute, so every minute you gain 1 energy, that is much better and more fair for everyone, VIP borings can get it instantly for all I care. 5 minutes for 1 energy is insane.
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