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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 14, 2017 12:02 AM |
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Edited by Galaad at 00:15, 14 Feb 2017.
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markmasters said:
4 dots! You snow  i never found a 4 dot creature.
Yeah,
Have you ever looked the Dungeons from other players? I was shocked by the amount of three dots and also four dots creatures some have! I started to abuse the multi-summon with tickets recently to get some to defend my Dungeon better (the more dots the faster they act) but can't be lucky all the time. 
Added your code to OP along others from the guild who have submitted them here. 
Jolly said:
Really nice summary and that is indeed a great team.
Thanks 
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You are saying that, throughout a full battle, your Forest Guardian would collect more mana if he had a yellow or black combo dot rather than the blue?
No no, if he acts first he gathers his three dots + the other green ones from his friends converted to mana (and that starts to activate their combo), but if I act say the Muse first he will give his white one to her mana. My grip is the blue dot is not much useful here, but it really is a nitpick since I like 99% of time have him act first.
Edit: Stevie ninja'd me
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What app did you use to capture the portraits, Galaad?
No app, just screenshot from mobile, it's a 2 button combination, check which it is for your device.
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Jolly
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posted February 14, 2017 05:46 AM |
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Edited by Jolly at 06:17, 14 Feb 2017.
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Galaad said:
if I act say the Muse first he will give his white one to her mana.
Ah ok - I was actually unaware of this.. :/
As an example, I thought the Forest Guardian (acting first) would just get extra mana from his own three combo dots, but he also gets extra mana from all the green combo dots he activates on other creatures?
And so in that case the fact that your Muse has two green dots, gives more mana to the Forest Guardian than if she just had one (even though her combo multiplier is the same as if she had just one green dot)?
And similarly, lets say your Muse acts first, would both of her green dots give her extra mana, or just one since they are the same colour?
Man I hope that makes sense to you guys.. lol
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AxeTerio
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 14, 2017 06:43 AM |
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Edited by AxeTerio at 07:00, 14 Feb 2017.
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Galaad said:
So this is my main party.
As you can see, my Muse gets many dots from her buddies so her mana fills quite fast and the mass heal along mass dispel largely makes up for it being an inferior creature: it is not even epic, only rare, yet without her my party could not go as far as it does actually, I tried to replace her with the Couatl for a bit which is Epic, but naha, the Muse is better. The luck buff is also far from being negligible. On top of it, these double colors, not only are beneficial for mana but also trigger combos without needing too much creatures: Muse needs one so she comes second position, Gold Dragon needs two so it comes third position, and so on.
Epic post, exactly what I was thinking about today: Who we use, why and the multitude of combinations possible.
I have couple questions tho:
1) Does Muse placaemnt in the image lineup matter or effect anything?
2) Muse is Awakened x1? Did that require any other Muse or another fully evolved Muse?
- I have two (2) Muse at 2* and wonder if I should recycle one until later when I need to build it or is it an awakening resource now unbuilt?
3) Since attackers benefit from varied combo dots, do healers, debuffers, etc capitalize more on having identical color dots?
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markmasters
Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
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posted February 14, 2017 08:59 AM |
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For all people troubled by opposing phoenixes:
If you have a cleanse you can actually kill the phoenix quite easy! Just make sure you can use it when fighting one.
When the phoenix does his AOE attack, hold your characters to see their debuffs. They all burn but only onle has a one turn debuff. That one will take the most damage so cleanse that one
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lordgraa
Promising
Famous Hero
The Whisperer
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posted February 14, 2017 09:51 AM |
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Galaad said:
So this is my main party.
Hmm... someone was lucky here, eh?
Good team and those color combinations! When I do reroll I end up with some crazy (=useless) combinations.
Galaad, do you also boost Muse power to get better heal or you rather spend those totems on DPS creatures?
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 14, 2017 10:07 AM |
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markmasters said:
For all people troubled by opposing phoenixes:
If you have a cleanse you can actually kill the phoenix quite easy! Just make sure you can use it when fighting one.
When the phoenix does his AOE attack, hold your characters to see their debuffs. They all burn but only onle has a one turn debuff. That one will take the most damage so cleanse that one
Thanks a lot, that's gonna make it easier to avoid dying. Now I just gotta out damage the heal, lol.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 14, 2017 10:23 AM |
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@Jolly
All correct, and yeah the Muse would get both converted into mana, same color just gives her a smaller multiplier than if they were different.
@AxeTerio
1) The placement affects the order if you want to go fast and just pass your finger for total carnage.
Sometimes, it is better not to respect it though, depends on the situation.
2) No you don't need to build the other creature to awaken it, you only need a double! At first I didn't know that and lost some gems, a lvl1 will work the same than a maxed out one for awakening! I guess this could be a good idea to include it in the tips if it's not the case already (@HungryDrag).
3) It depends on your team setup, but yes the multiplier does work for defensive purpose all the same than for attack.
@Markmasters
All the more reason to go Bard instead of Healer.
@Lorgraa
Well, the more you play the more you increase your odds for better luck. 
Ok, Stevie's been playing a lot too and wasn't so lucky, but as any random system it will turn around eventually, a difference to note though is I've been playing for two months while he's been playing for two weeks.
To be honest I'm playing this game WAY more than I should though.
Yes of course, at first I prioritize to boost the stats that are relevant to the special, but totems are quite abundant so use them everywhere!
Also, I have to be honest, these rerolls went good but I have other creatures which didn't go so well too, waiting for other candidates for colors to match, I've been saving them for future teams.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 14, 2017 01:15 PM |
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Galaad said:
I can assure this team is really working, I can pass any map at Prince difficulty even the Great Wish ones quite easily
Small correction, I used my current B Team (which is not as optimal) for the Red Great Wish Quest (since Green is weak vs Red I had to figure something else, yet again I can thank my Muse for awesome healing and cleansing; two blue creatures replacing Guardian and Gold Drag, one for mana, other one for combo). Maybe the main one could have gone through, but I didn't take the risk to avoid losing energy stupidly.
BTW the rewards for completing all Great Wish quests at 100% are sweet, and gradually better, check out what's up for King:
Unless I'm mistaken, isn't that a summon Idol for a Legendary creature hehehe
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 14, 2017 05:06 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 17:06, 14 Feb 2017.
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I sure hope it is, I'm gonna be going for that soon, right after I finish another 2 princes. Not sure if I can be a challenge for King right now, I'll probably have to test my strength in the Giant quest first.
Also, respect to this guy Truth who's level 64 and has over 11k prestige. On the other side, I'm disappointed. Barely 3k with such sweet legendaries 
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AxeTerio
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 14, 2017 05:22 PM |
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Hungry Dragon
I agree with Galaad
Awakening isn't clear on its process or requirements and a little more explanation can help people plan ahead. It will also avoid any aggravation when you learn later there was someone you should've kept but didn't.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 14, 2017 05:34 PM |
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Galaad said:
@Lorgraa
Well, the more you play the more you increase your odds for better luck.
Ok, Stevie's been playing a lot too and wasn't so lucky, but as any random system it will turn around eventually, a difference to note though is I've been playing for two months while he's been playing for two weeks.
To be honest I'm playing this game WAY more than I should though.
I have to stay positive about my luck, I hope it'll change soon. Statistically, I should be closer to a legendary now more than ever. Even if I played for only 2 weeks (soon to be 3), I played like crazy. I play the game regularly every 4 hours, even during the night, just so I can maximize my potential and use every challenge point and energy so they don't get capped. If that's not dedication, I don't know what is 
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AxeTerio
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 14, 2017 07:35 PM |
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Recycling Creatures
I assume recycling higher rarity and/or star monsters will provide better rewards, but with Awakening evo in mind I've been keeping as many 4* (possible) creatures as I can in my roster; which is now full.
I can recycle more lower rarity ones that have 1 or less combo dots as I think keeping 2s could be helpful?
Anyone know if these guys are worth storing / recycling?
- Sultan - LizardMan (think I saw him mentioned earlier)
- Clockwork - Wisp
- Kitsune - Mummy
- Mothman - Owl
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markmasters
Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
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posted February 14, 2017 08:22 PM |
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wha? how do you beat those great wishes, I only succeeded green so far 
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 14, 2017 09:16 PM |
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markmasters said:
wha? how do you beat those great wishes, I only succeeded green so far
With color counters, duh!
I've only completed them in Prince, not King. Not yet.
This is the party I've been using for today's Red Wish:
I am not very satisfied with it but it does the job quite well nevertheless. The Kobold's special gives a +35% ATK buff to everyone and also hits pretty well (I'll post the stats later if you want, too lazy to translate right now and I have to get going anyway, I'm actually late because I've been playing ).
I made no rerolls, funny because when I first got the Wyvern, I thought "meh, I don't need blue dots! But I'll keep it for the Guild Banner as it looks Kreeganish". Well guess what, I was really happy to find it again in my roster while looking for a creature with blue dots today.
Note there is NO Legendary creatures in this team.
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markmasters
Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
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posted February 15, 2017 12:11 AM |
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You gave me an idea and i just finished the challenge on king thanks for that .
I also got the cobra. Together with the siren they really carried the quest for me
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AxeTerio
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 15, 2017 01:29 AM |
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Stevie said:
I have to stay positive about my luck, I hope it'll change soon. Statistically, I should be closer to a legendary now more than ever. Even if I played for only 2 weeks (soon to be 3), I played like crazy. I play the game regularly every 4 hours, even during the night, just so I can maximize my potential and use every challenge point and energy so they don't get capped. If that's not dedication, I don't know what is
I try to stay level headed, sometimes luck favors and sometimes it doesn't.
I don't know if this info will be viewed as good or bad but I did a multi-summon in the last 10 min of V-Day Event and got two (2) Fire Giants. One with four (4) dots: Blu, Ylw, Ylw, Dark and one with three (3) green dots.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 15, 2017 02:46 AM |
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SUCH LUCK! But seriously, congratulations man. Don't worry, I'm not taking it the wrong way. Better creatures, better prestige, better guild rewards! So I can say that I'm glad when you guys get good rolls with legendaries, it also reflects back at me
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AxeTerio
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 15, 2017 03:12 AM |
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Edited by AxeTerio at 05:42, 15 Feb 2017.
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Stevie said:
SUCH LUCK! But seriously, congratulations man. Don't worry, I'm not taking it the wrong way. Better creatures, better prestige, better guild rewards! So I can say that I'm glad when you guys get good rolls with legendaries, it also reflects back at me
Speaking of which, thank you and previous posters and @Galaad (and MarkMasters and all else ;o) for having this forum and the guild. I got some SWEET guild rewards today including a Prismatic Orb.
Should I reroll the four (4) dot Fire Giant to try and fit my current Dark, Grn, Ylw, Wht squad cuz of his blue dot or leave as is?
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AxeTerio
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 15, 2017 04:21 AM |
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Galaad said:
This is the party I've been using for today's Red Wish:
I see you have Pirate awakened at two (2) combo dots, I was wondering if you'd still do that now if you just started the game knowing what you've learned?
I'm curious if we'd be better off, resource management wise, to wait for a monster to have three (3) dots before maxing them?
Granted anyone we do build will be used in dungeons and if we didn't perhaps that'd put us behind too much...just spit-balling.
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markmasters
Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
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posted February 15, 2017 09:32 AM |
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I would start rerolling for your 4 dot giant as soon as he is max level (or at least 75). Your team might still change to fit his dots and getting 4 unique dots is pretty rare i think (i had trouble getting 3 unique dots...kept rolling 2 the same) and rerolls are expensive.
Congrats on your awesome chest. I guess you use the second giant for awakening? Painfull as it might be....
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