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AxeTerio
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posted February 15, 2017 10:39 AM |
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markmasters said:
I would start rerolling for your 4 dot giant as soon as he is max level (or at least 75). Your team might still change to fit his dots and getting 4 unique dots is pretty rare i think (i had trouble getting 3 unique dots...kept rolling 2 the same) and rerolls are expensive.
Congrats on your awesome chest. I guess you use the second giant for awakening? Painfull as it might be....
Yeah, I keep reminding myself it's early still and need to save those crystals and Prismatics much as I can until I can get more 3-dot (3d) monsters. Plus I used most my red gems on a 2d Red Drake so gonna take awhile to get him up and running.
In all, the multi-summon gave me dupes three (3) times: Red Drake 2d, Red Drake 3d, Fire Giant 4d, Fire Dancer 1d, Pixie 1d, Fire Giant 3d, Troglodyte 3d, Gargoyle 1d, Bighorn 2d, Troglodyte 2d
I'll dump the Fire Dancer, maybe Pixie and keep the rest. Awakening usage for Fire Giant better than the pain of recycling him I bet lol
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 15, 2017 11:23 AM |
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Thanir said:
But it seems like I can't send a join request for now because the guild is set to invite only.
Set to invite only means you gotta make a request, otherwise you can enter the guild like you enter a windmill. Possibly it didn't work because guild was full. I've opened a spot for you if you still want to join. 
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 15, 2017 02:54 PM |
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markmasters
Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
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posted February 15, 2017 03:31 PM |
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Stevie said:
Only 80 diamonds away from the next multi summon. Place your bets 
Not one....not 2....3 legendaries! Dingdingding!
(3 lame ones though  )
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AxeTerio
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 15, 2017 03:34 PM |
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Stevie said:
Only 80 diamonds away from the next multi summon. Place your bets
Legendary on the last box : bet
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lordgraa
Promising
Famous Hero
The Whisperer
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posted February 15, 2017 04:22 PM |
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Stevie said:
Only 80 diamonds away from the next multi summon. Place your bets
Critical error   
Nah... I see at least one big creature with golden eyes with legendary powers! 
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The Shadows Over Ashan (H7 community DLC)
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AncientDruids
Famous Hero
(Andruids for short)
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posted February 15, 2017 04:52 PM |
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I have a question. How many diamonds do you usually get from chests after completing a quest or from a ticket lottery? My friend and I did the lottery in event quest and I got 5, while he insists he got 50. He had Lord difficulty and I had Prince.
Does it depend on a number of diamonds you have at the moment? He was nearly broke and I was carrying 500.
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Thanir
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 15, 2017 04:58 PM |
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Edited by Thanir at 17:05, 15 Feb 2017.
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Galaad said:
Thanir said:
But it seems like I can't send a join request for now because the guild is set to invite only.
Set to invite only means you gotta make a request, otherwise you can enter the guild like you enter a windmill. Possibly it didn't work because guild was full. I've opened a spot for you if you still want to join.
Thank you. I applied to the guild under the name "Naranek".
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 15, 2017 06:34 PM |
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AncientDruids said:
I have a question. How many diamonds do you usually get from chests after completing a quest or from a ticket lottery? My friend and I did the lottery in event quest and I got 5, while he insists he got 50. He had Lord difficulty and I had Prince.
Does it depend on a number of diamonds you have at the moment? He was nearly broke and I was carrying 500.
I believe it depends on how many tickets you pay and how many of the 3 returns are diamonds, I got about 15 x 2 diamonds once for about 150 tickets if I remember correctly.
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markmasters
Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
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posted February 15, 2017 09:32 PM |
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Guys (and Hungrydragon) I think i'm missing something here look at this person
At lvl 52 these creatures (and a maximum awakened fire giant too). At first i thought, just spent a lot of money but....
Considering you can't buy ankhs and you can only gamble ankhs for tokens which you can't buy either i'm really confused. Am i missing something? If that person has grinded all those red ankhs in prince/king adventure it's impossible to be still lvl 52....
I don't want to call people cheaters but if thats not the case, what am I missing?
P.s. are you actualy allowed to play the game yourself hungrydragon or forbidden policies?
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 16, 2017 02:52 AM |
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I hate this game so snowing much right now. SO MUCH! My FIFTH multi summon with no legendary. About the 3rd where I recycle all 10 creatures. I am on stand by mode since around level 50, thousands of gems for each color, hundreds of evolution stones and books, 3 million gold, all just for that ONE legendary.
This ain't fair. This either gets addressed or I'm quitting soon.
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The Young Traveler
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lordgraa
Promising
Famous Hero
The Whisperer
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posted February 16, 2017 09:37 AM |
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Edited by lordgraa at 09:39, 16 Feb 2017.
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Stevie said:
I hate this game so snowing much right now. SO MUCH! My FIFTH multi summon with no legendary. About the 3rd where I recycle all 10 creatures. I am on stand by mode since around level 50, thousands of gems for each color, hundreds of evolution stones and books, 3 million gold, all just for that ONE legendary.
This ain't fair. This either gets addressed or I'm quitting soon.
That is called bad luck. I hate it as much as you do but you cannot blame developer/game. The one to blame is Mr. RNG.
I had another problem - did current event (to obtain epic Treant) 50x with NO SINGLE TREANT DROP! I had recycled 100 cretures that were dropping all the time from other encounters but not that snowy living tree... I almost gave up... and today morning in total hopelessness I get... Treant! 
TLDR - do not give up, Stevie! Never - ever! Because Mr. RNG is waiting just for this moment. Just keep playing and your legendary will come.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 16, 2017 12:36 PM |
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So if it's not the game or the devs' fault, whose fault is it? Of course it's the fault of the ones who implemented a RNG system where one can get so screwed up that would quit in frustration. I wouldn't be so worked up over it if I weren't playing daily a good amount of time and was just casually picking it up for 15 minutes then forgot about it. Instead, I am playing like I would play a PC game, I have over a hundred hours played at this point if not significantly more. How ironic is it that a game where you're supposed to collect creatures is directly denying you that very purpose? I see people who don't invest not even 10% of what I am investing for the sake of progress, and they have more progress than I do. And I'm supposed to suck it up because it's RNG and it can't be helped? It can, and it's called pseudo RNG. Otherwise I am potentially doomed to be in a strand of bad luck up for who knows how long.
At the end of the day, I as a customer should only appreciate the end experience. My experience is one frustration and non-accomplishment, and that is absolutely not my fault. And I am not exactly complaining for the sake of it, I am venting for sure, but I am also hoping that this amounts to some feedback that the devs will use.
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hayenne
Known Hero
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posted February 16, 2017 01:15 PM |
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Stevie said:
So if it's not the game or the devs' fault, whose fault is it? Of course it's the fault of the ones who implemented a RNG system where one can get so screwed up that would quit in frustration. I wouldn't be so worked up over it if I weren't playing daily a good amount of time and was just casually picking it up for 15 minutes then forgot about it. Instead, I am playing like I would play a PC game, I have over a hundred hours played at this point if not significantly more. How ironic is it that a game where you're supposed to collect creatures is directly denying you that very purpose? I see people who don't invest not even 10% of what I am investing for the sake of progress, and they have more progress than I do. And I'm supposed to suck it up because it's RNG and it can't be helped? It can, and it's called pseudo RNG. Otherwise I am potentially doomed to be in a strand of bad luck up for who knows how long.
At the end of the day, I as a customer should only appreciate the end experience. My experience is one frustration and non-accomplishment, and that is absolutely not my fault. And I am not exactly complaining for the sake of it, I am venting for sure, but I am also hoping that this amounts to some feedback that the devs will use.
This game is no different from any other which uses RNG, really. I myself got my first 3 point creature today (and even then some snowty jellyfish) and I played a lot.
Being denied in a reasonably quick recruiting of powerful creatures will deter some, but attract others. Your anticipation increases the feeling of reward once you finally get that creature.
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted February 16, 2017 02:25 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 14:29, 16 Feb 2017.
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Stevie said:
So if it's not the game or the devs' fault, whose fault is it?
Random Number God
Really, you can get what you are aiming for after 2nd try... or you can't get it even after 200th.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 16, 2017 03:50 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 18:56, 17 Feb 2017.
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If a developer designs the rng algorithm to include the possibility that an unfavorable event for the player can occur 200 times in a row before a favorable one occurs, then it is DEFINITELY the developer's responsibility for ANY of the outcomes including how that reflects on the player's satisfaction which he tries to appeal to in the first place, not rng god's. I am talking about pseudo random distribution which is the rng used for games and most likely this game too, everyting from Heroes to Civilization has a seed which is deterministic and can be used efficiently to enhance the player's end experience.
The thing is that, as far as I can tell, the rng system of Creature Quest doesn't REASONABLY reward input with accomplishment. I would say that playing hundreds of hours to invest 4000 diamonds in the slot machine should return at least ONE legendary in the 50 chests you open. For a developer this is a simple matter of code, for the player it would be an unnoticeable benefit.
So take your smartypants tvtropes link with you and crawl back from whence you came, Avonu 
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The Young Traveler
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted February 16, 2017 04:16 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 16:18, 16 Feb 2017.
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You really don't know how RNG works in F2P games, do you?
Winning chances are always set very low, so low it is cheaper to buy what you want from other players (if it is possible in game), than geting it from RNG gasha/pack/box/whatever.
For example 1% chance to win something doesn't mean you are guarantee to win it after 100th try. You can get it from 1st try or from 1000th. And from my experience chances in these kind of games are lower than 1% to win grand prize. It's often primary way of earning money for developers.
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted February 16, 2017 06:38 PM |
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I'm curently in a VERY annoying high-level group of people, I can't win this one, probably gonna end up on the bottom. Almost ALL the battles I take I loose and they attack me every minute and they all succeed.
How can this be? Last time I ended up 10th, now I fail on all sides...
Payers should be in their own contest.
Also can you only catch up-to-four-star monsters in battles? is it impossible to catch a wild treant or dark elemental? Do you need money/events for that? THAT SUCKS! Really, give it like 00000000,0001 chance at least.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 16, 2017 08:04 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 20:09, 16 Feb 2017.
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Avonu said:
You really don't know how RNG works in F2P games, do you?
Winning chances are always set very low, so low it is cheaper to buy what you want from other players (if it is possible in game), than geting it from RNG gasha/pack/box/whatever.
For example 1% chance to win something doesn't mean you are guarantee to win it after 100th try. You can get it from 1st try or from 1000th. And from my experience chances in these kind of games are lower than 1% to win grand prize. It's often primary way of earning money for developers.
What's the point in generalizing? I'm talking about Creature Quest, not every F2P game on average. This game is obviously breaking the mobile market with a different mentality. The chance for a legendary to drop is clearly not 1%, so that's just you coming up with numbers. Seriously, are you even playing the game to understand the trends? The vast majority of players at my level have at least 2 legendaries to fill their dungeons with. 3 people on the forums have reported 2 and 3 legendaries dropped from a single draw. About 30% of my guild has more legendaries than I do while also being lower in level (excluding Galaad and Markmasters). So what exactly are YOU talking about?
Rakshasa92 said:
I'm curently in a VERY annoying high-level group of people, I can't win this one, probably gonna end up on the bottom. Almost ALL the battles I take I loose and they attack me every minute and they all succeed.
How can this be? Last time I ended up 10th, now I fail on all sides...
I know how that feels man. I had to settle for top 50 two weeks ago because something similar, and the week before I ended top 2. It's not fun, but think of it as getting what you can and moving on.
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The Young Traveler
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 16, 2017 08:51 PM |
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Hey Avonu, you suffered through Ashan and don't want to give Creature Quest a go? 
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