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Dulkan
Dulkan


Known Hero
posted March 31, 2017 08:17 AM

Galaad said:

Transferring the WHOLE awakening would be too cheesy imo, but a fully awakened creature giving same impact on fusion than a lvl 1 feels somehow wrong.


There is laso the problem of creature clutter. 250 is much too small fro creature at the moment. I have so many small and mediums lying around, which I don't want to level, becuase I want a 3-dot or 4-dot.

I don't see, what's cheesy about it. You still have to actually find a 3-dot or 4-dot creature, but you are then free to evolve and awaken the 2-dot you have, instead of having 20 copies of the creature clutter your storage, while you hope to find a 3- or 4-dot sometime.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted March 31, 2017 10:45 AM

I find it cheesy as it is a decision you make to awaken or to wait and is also part of a gamble. If you use  a 3 dots Legendary for a full year then you find the very same with 4 dots, I can't consider it wasted, it has been serving you for a full year. Legendaries need 15 dupes or greater essences to be fully awoken which means running 15 dungeons in the top 3 for the best creatures in the game. The Event quests guarantee you to have a fully awoken Epic one regardless of its amount of dots and are cycling. As for the smaller size, it is only a matter of the time you are willing to invest in the Battle Tower. While I agree creature storage is scarce, don't forget anything that makes our life easier makes it even more easier for the p2w players. For small and medium creatures I recycle without pity as I find it way too frustrating to wait with a bunch of 0-2 dots eating all your storage space very fast, no get rid of them, find the rarer dot first then you have also more motivation to grind, otherwise it can be a nightmare, it is too luck-based to afford to anticipate in such manner IMO
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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


Supreme Hero
posted March 31, 2017 10:49 AM

Pay to win warrior do have this already, so it would be only better for us non-payers to get this option to make a fair chance against them.

And I'm never ever gonna awaken my dark elf, where do I even find those?

Only some (like the Siren and Elephant) can be fully awakened.

And i'm never gonna end in the top 3 that much, that is impossible.

So I really hope Hungrydragon listens to this idea, as it would make it less frustating to put time in creatures, for creature space and to make it not a bad thing to find a 4 dot creature AFTER a 2 or 3 one.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted March 31, 2017 10:59 AM
Edited by Galaad at 11:09, 31 Mar 2017.

Rakshasa92 said:
Pay to win warrior do have this already, so it would be only better for us non-payers to get this option to make a fair chance against them.


How? They get the same chance as anyone else PLUS the extras they get for paying real money, the easier it is for f2p the bigger the gap will be with p2w. We already have a fair chance against (most of) them, but we need to spend more time playing is the only difference. Maybe I am wrong but that is what I think, it sure would be nice if HungryDragon could give his two cents but I recall him saying he doesn't like to barge in the conversations.
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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


Supreme Hero
posted March 31, 2017 12:05 PM

Pay to win just buy packs with greater essence in it, they mostly win the competition, they buy lots of greater summons and get lots of diamonds and VIP, so they are already better.

Join my competition at the moment, the group Stickers is the living proof that wallet warriors mostly win anyway.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted March 31, 2017 02:38 PM
Edited by Galaad at 14:43, 31 Mar 2017.

Some real money packs give greater essences? I've never seen any. If you look closer you will notice there is many small but not unimportant things that can't be purchased with real money, like small creatures (dungeon!), tokens and other "minor" stuff like items for evolving creatures.

Yes there is some p2w that will always get rank 1 in dungeon challenge, but as far as I could see until now that's it. I also suspect a lot of p2w think they can avoid the strategy by paying which is a mistake that will hurt their wallets even more.

In the end the game requires you to play it but really play it, the RNG can take its time but seems to trigger good luck often enough, or in the case of an officer here who had constant bad luck for a while suddenly hits the jackpot with 4 Bosses at once. At least that are my impressions, but I've been playing the game for only 3 months or so which is not that much relatively speaking.
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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


Supreme Hero
posted March 31, 2017 04:18 PM

Lol, even with 15 wins in battle i'm still only number 30, and most of my scores with those 15 wins were 100+ prestige.

Pay to win really wins... Stickers are all over the top 10.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted March 31, 2017 04:23 PM
Edited by Galaad at 16:24, 31 Mar 2017.

Raks, it has happened more than once to see HC Kreegans in top 3 (for individual rankings), so f2p ALSO wins. Also seems you're in a harsh group this time.
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AlHazin
AlHazin


Promising
Supreme Hero
النور
posted March 31, 2017 04:49 PM

We're in the same group Rakshasa, and I can confirm it's a kickass group.
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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


Supreme Hero
posted March 31, 2017 05:04 PM

Ok for luna, this is my dungeon at the moment:

5 waves

First Wave, all creatures are fully evolved with crystals.

2 dot Jiangshi with one red star / 2 dot Rime Frost Eagle with 3 red stars / 3 dot ladybug
3 dot swamp terror / 3 dot royal jester / two dot tengu with two red stars

Second Wave

3 dot mantis with two red stars / 2 dot wyvern / 4 dot Matador bee with two red stars
3 dot War Elephant, fully awakened and totem / 3 dot Treant, fully awakened and totem

third wave

3 dot Draconic Templar with some totems / 4 dot Siren, fully awakened and totem
3 dot Flaptrap, almost fully awake / 3 dot skeleton with one red star / 2 dot warg with 3 red stars and lots of totems

fourt wave

Forest Giant, 3 dots, one red star, full totem

fifth wave

Stegosaurus, 3 dots, one red star, full totem.





Other good monsters I have.

2 dot Lizardman archer, with one red star
3 dot firebat with 1 red star
2 dot fire elemental, full totems
2 dot wyvern
3 dot Ancient Green Dragon
3 dot Archmage, not fully evolved yet
2 dot pegasus, nothing done yet
2 dot elder air elemental, nothing done yet
3 dot Regal Cockatrice, fully leveled
2 dot kangaroo
2 dot hyena
2 dot Dwarf warrior
2 dot Dragonfly
3 dot Wildkin outlaw with one red star
3 dot Cloud Giant, fully level, one red star, fully totem
2 dot Unicorn
2 dot Light Elemental, 5 red stars, fully totem
3 dot Clockwork Technicial, fully leveled, no totem or red stars yet
2 dot Arctic Raptor, with one red star
2 dot Hunchback
2 dot Dark Elemental
2 dot Mystic Dark Elf, full Totem



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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


Supreme Hero
posted March 31, 2017 05:27 PM

Lol my group = Destroyers vs Stickers vs Avengers!

The entire top 10 almost exist out of one of these 3...

Bye bye angel... What a horrid group to be in.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted March 31, 2017 05:56 PM

Rakshasa92 said:
Bye bye angel... What a horrid group to be in.


Don't lose hope just yet mate, Angel is for top 25 not top 10... IMO you have all your chances.
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AlHazin
AlHazin


Promising
Supreme Hero
النور
posted March 31, 2017 05:58 PM

Rak, we activated the dungeon too early, next week I shall wait 2/3 days before I activate it. Like last week, I ranked 10 or 11 despite being under leveled.
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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


Supreme Hero
posted March 31, 2017 06:01 PM
Edited by Rakshasa92 at 18:07, 31 Mar 2017.

Galaad said:
Rakshasa92 said:
Bye bye angel... What a horrid group to be in.


Don't lose hope just yet mate, Angel is for top 25 not top 10... IMO you have all your chances.


No... Because the last hours (a lot of hours) I can't play on tuesday... And all the players are VERY hard and VERY serious... This is the hardest group ive been in.

And  I wanted that angel :-(

Next week is probably easier, but probably with stupid walrus-dude or whatever again... I want the angel! NOW! :-p

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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


Supreme Hero
posted March 31, 2017 06:04 PM

AlHazin said:
Rak, we activated the dungeon too early, next week I shall wait 2/3 days before I activate it. Like last week, I ranked 10 or 11 despite being under leveled.


Yes I think this time I activated on first hour, all the annoying wallet warriors are in the group, the ENTIRE gang.

Next time I can activate only on friday, which is good.

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AncientDruids
AncientDruids


Famous Hero
(Andruids for short)
posted March 31, 2017 06:18 PM
Edited by AncientDruids at 19:22, 31 Mar 2017.

But Angel is kinda sucky. I think you shouldn't feel miserable about it.

A little curiosity for non-natives, this week's challenge is called 'On a Wing and a Prayer'. That means 'to do something hoping that you will succeed although you are not prepared enough for it'. I think this could be a motto for many players participation in Dungeon Challenges : p

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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


Supreme Hero
posted March 31, 2017 07:24 PM

Well it is for me.

With my least favorite monster (the ugly walrus) I won with ease, now I want to collect a monster and it is too hard...

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markmasters
markmasters


Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
posted March 31, 2017 07:40 PM
Edited by markmasters at 19:41, 31 Mar 2017.

Rak i think your dungeon could use some chamges. Like the siren is a terrible defender as it allows the attacker to stall and generate full mana. You need offensive creatures like light ellemental even if they are weaker in stats then the siren since the attacker is sort of forced to nuke it quickly with a special ability and be able to use less specials on your bosses.

I think you can have quite some succesfull defenses that way especially with the awesome stegosaurus

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Isildur
Isildur


Adventuring Hero
posted March 31, 2017 07:45 PM

Rakshasa92 said:
Galaad said:
Dulkan said:
Rakshasa92 said:
@HUNGRYDRAGON

I have this thought that maybe in the future of this game, there would be the possibility that awakened creatures can be added to others?

Like you have a Stegosaurus (you don't find those anytime soon) of 3 dots, then you gain a lot of essence over the next MONTHS or even YEAR and when you need only one more stegosaurus there it is, the 4 dot stegosaurus to ruin it all... Maybe it would be more fair that when you upgrade the new 4 dot stegosaurus normally, you can instantly awaken it WHOLE with the old stegosaurus? So every awakened essence and stegosaurus in the old 3 dot stegosaurus fully awaken (or how far the old one was) new 4 dot stegosaurus, because if not it will be a very bad situation...


I made the exact same suggestion 6 weeks ago, hungrydragon hasn't responded to that.


Transferring the WHOLE awakening would be too cheesy imo, but a fully awakened creature giving same impact on fusion than a lvl 1 feels somehow wrong. There is also the totems... I got two 3 dots Muses from the Tower today, my old 2 dots is of course fully awakened and boosted since a while, I will end up recycling it to get the totems back. A good thing the grinding is addictive.

BTW I recall putting a rant about the energy still not stacking on level ups from last update, but I have to admit, adding up from the dungeon rewards, I don't even need all that I have any longer.


Cheesy? So you don't find it stupid that when you have a stegosaurus or anything other bossy fully awakened after a full year or whatever and then finding a 4 dot boss creature and having to start ALL over again?

I think there should at least be a way to get your creatures back you used to awaken the creatures with.

YOu really need A LOT of creatures to fully awaken a creature, so I think there should be option for this.


From a business perspective I don't think that this would be a good move for them. It lowers the time commitment needed in the game and for p2w players lowers their cost to fully awaken creatures in the event that they get higher dot star after fully awakening a lower dot creature.
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 01, 2017 02:49 PM

I just recycled two fully awakened creatures for the totems. It's ok, they had their use before but now being merely two dots aren't useful any longer, I will get them back, with more dots this time^^

Ps. I can be so incredibly lucky with rerolls it's insane, first my Phoenix then this: before I had a 2d Muse with two green dots, now I get a 3d one, first reroll is no good, second reroll is... three green dots lol
I don't really care for her multipliers as she heals sufficiently without, and now my Forest Giant has his mana filled up in no time.
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