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AlHazin
AlHazin


Promising
Supreme Hero
النور
posted April 23, 2017 03:26 PM

I never had any. I thought it was an equivalent of the light element, even his special appeared as a reverse supernova. Now that you tell me that I'll be reconsidering the next event and thus not farm. I already have 5 kobolds and one of them with three dots, I could farm those instead.
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 23, 2017 03:32 PM

Definitely farm the Pirate Kobold, especially if you already have a three dots or more, from my experience those are fantastic.
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tress
tress


Hired Hero
posted April 23, 2017 05:13 PM

hayenne said:
Sorry, it sounds a bit confusing. During any summoning event you get either a "normal" rare, epic or a legendary box or a "season" box, which differs by looks and has somewhat improved chances of getting a seasonal epic/legendary.

You could have got the fire elemental from both the "normal" epic box or the "season" box.

I myself look for a definite answer on this one but haven't found it yet. I also saved some diamond idols for the summoning event, but none out of 9 resulted in a season box.


I got 1 (guaranteed) season box from that multi summon from which elemental came. Anwyays i have seen people getting several season boxes so it may be good choice to save.
BTW , if anyone tested - does diamond idols grant chance to get season box or they are always just generic summon ?

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Xexamedes
Xexamedes


Adventuring Hero
posted April 23, 2017 05:21 PM

I had 18 diamond idols saved going into the event, not one produced a bunny box so I am pretty certain that only the diamond summon buttons can get the event boxes (5 multi summons got me 2 legendary dragons and 15 epics)
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AxeTerio
AxeTerio


Adventuring Hero
posted April 23, 2017 08:16 PM

AlHazin said:
I never had any. I thought it was an equivalent of the light element, even his special appeared as a reverse supernova. Now that you tell me that I'll be reconsidering the next event and thus not farm. I already have 5 kobolds and one of them with three dots, I could farm those instead.


The different Elemental counterparts are definitely not equivalent to each other so be careful not to make that assumption. Same could be said for most of the other creature packs..

LE is the best of its group while the others don't have a strong enough attack to compensate for their poor stats.

Storm and Forest Giant are the better brothers there while Fire has been very useful to me but the other two have better kits IMO

Kobold is really good after you change his tome as Assassin is pretty useless in Dungeon Defense. If you have a Nature boss to protect, his inclusion in your lineup would be important.




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hayenne
hayenne


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posted April 23, 2017 09:04 PM

Earth elemental is great too, pity you cannot farm it.
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xexamedes
xexamedes


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posted April 23, 2017 11:20 PM
Edited by xexamedes at 23:21, 23 Apr 2017.

Thus far I've avoided upgrading 2 dot mediums, as a result I've ended up skipping the hyena and gnoll until the cycle around. I'm wondering if others opt to evolve and awaken their 2 dot mediums, for me the drop rate on 3 dot mediums seems worse than on smalls.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 23, 2017 11:28 PM

AxeTerio said:
Kobold is really good after you change his tome as Assassin is pretty useless in Dungeon Defense.


Really? Why?

xexamedes said:
Thus far I've avoided upgrading 2 dot mediums, as a result I've ended up skipping the hyena and gnoll until the cycle around. I'm wondering if others opt to evolve and awaken their 2 dot mediums, for me the drop rate on 3 dot mediums seems worse than on smalls.


I never ever got 3 dots Kobold, Gnoll or Hyena, for me the drop rate on 3+ dots are terrible for small and medium creatures, but I always get 3 and even sometimes 4 dots Epics in the quests, guess it's different for everyone. I did fully upgrade these two dots but ended up recycling them for totems once I had no use for them any longer. So I would say, it is worth it if you use them in your parties for quests or battle tower, but not for defense.
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AxeTerio
AxeTerio


Adventuring Hero
posted April 24, 2017 01:06 AM

Galaad said:
AxeTerio said:
Kobold is really good after you change his tome as Assassin is pretty useless in Dungeon Defense.


Really? Why?


He needs to Crit first to get to his Active to work and then you gotta hope it actually targets the right creature. His passive won't work since the opponent is human and will target him when needed.

xexamedes said:
Thus far I've avoided upgrading 2 dot mediums, as a result I've ended up skipping the hyena and gnoll until the cycle around. I'm wondering if others opt to evolve and awaken their 2 dot mediums, for me the drop rate on 3 dot mediums seems worse than on smalls.


I never ever got 3 dots Kobold, Gnoll or Hyena, for me the drop rate on 3+ dots are terrible for small and medium creatures, but I always get 3 and even sometimes 4 dots Epics in the quests, guess it's different for everyone. I did fully upgrade these two dots but ended up recycling them for totems once I had no use for them any longer. So I would say, it is worth it if you use them in your parties for quests or battle tower, but not for defense.


I've avoided 2 dot creatures on all but smalls since the 3 wave is fine enough for me with limited 3 dots that we find.

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Tress
Tress


Hired Hero
posted April 24, 2017 09:30 AM
Edited by Tress at 10:02, 24 Apr 2017.

AxeTerio said:

I've avoided 2 dot creatures on all but smalls since the 3 wave is fine enough for me with limited 3 dots that we find.


In all my playing I have gotten only one 3 dot Rare, so drop rate is extremely low. I was struggling to get 2+ ball pixie , but to no avail. Have like 25 of them in my storage, thinking about evolving one to try lvl 51 of tower as other healers i have are not cutting it.
Speaking of which, does anyone have any tips on sustaining team on lvl 51 ? Currently tried Trog + occultist combo , but they cant keep up on wave 1 too good. Initial idea was to let siren die and resurrect her on wave 2 so she keep up , but that setup also lack dps as i take ettin with me which cripples party DPS. This strategy even worked but siren got stunned on w2 due to my inattention. Probably that can still work but its very inconsistent.
Currently thinking of getting pixie up ,but unsure if that is of any use as she might not have juice to keep up.

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hayenne
hayenne


Known Hero
posted April 24, 2017 10:05 AM
Edited by hayenne at 10:06, 24 Apr 2017.

I got my only 3 dot Hyena yesterday.

I did the quest map so many times that I had awakened Elephant and a Boar since last event and the total Hyenas I got was counting more than 140.

Needless to say, I am happy for this grindfest to be over.

AxeTerio said:
Kobold is really good after you change his tome as Assassin is pretty useless in Dungeon Defense.


The assassin tome is useless on any unit, offence or defence.
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kmnwolfman
kmnwolfman


Hired Hero
posted April 24, 2017 10:21 AM

hayenne said:
I got my only 3 dot Hyena yesterday.

I did the quest map so many times that I had awakened Elephant and a Boar since last event and the total Hyenas I got was counting more than 140.

Needless to say, I am happy for this grindfest to be over.


WOW! I got 50 Hyenas this week and I was already considering giving up. I guess I still have a lot of grinding to do.

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Tress
Tress


Hired Hero
posted April 24, 2017 10:32 AM

hayenne said:
I got my only 3 dot Hyena yesterday.

I did the quest map so many times that I had awakened Elephant and a Boar since last event and the total Hyenas I got was counting more than 140.

Needless to say, I am happy for this grindfest to be over.

AxeTerio said:
Kobold is really good after you change his tome as Assassin is pretty useless in Dungeon Defense.


The assassin tome is useless on any unit, offence or defence.


So does assassin passive doesn't work ? I have feeling it gets attacked less, but of course i wouldn't bet on it.

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hayenne
hayenne


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posted April 24, 2017 12:50 PM

Tress said:

So does assassin passive doesn't work ? I have feeling it gets attacked less, but of course i wouldn't bet on it.


I did not say that. I did say that pretty much every other tome is better than this one.
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Tress
Tress


Hired Hero
posted April 24, 2017 01:03 PM

hayenne said:
Tress said:

So does assassin passive doesn't work ? I have feeling it gets attacked less, but of course i wouldn't bet on it.


I did not say that. I did say that pretty much every other tome is better than this one.


I find most on crit effect bit lacking, so its choice between 5-10 % stat  boost or being hit less. If your function is resurrection, then it can be pretty useful.

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Tress
Tress


Hired Hero
posted April 24, 2017 02:43 PM

Finally manage to progress to wave 3 of level 51. Even got as far as 20 % , however, can someone enlighten me how his silence works ?
At the end he put 99 turn silence on team and that was that. Did i slept some debuff i had to cleanse or is there something else ?

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Isildur
Isildur


Adventuring Hero
posted April 24, 2017 04:30 PM
Edited by Isildur at 16:34, 24 Apr 2017.

Tress said:
AxeTerio said:

I've avoided 2 dot creatures on all but smalls since the 3 wave is fine enough for me with limited 3 dots that we find.


In all my playing I have gotten only one 3 dot Rare, so drop rate is extremely low. I was struggling to get 2+ ball pixie , but to no avail. Have like 25 of them in my storage, thinking about evolving one to try lvl 51 of tower as other healers i have are not cutting it.
Speaking of which, does anyone have any tips on sustaining team on lvl 51 ? Currently tried Trog + occultist combo , but they cant keep up on wave 1 too good. Initial idea was to let siren die and resurrect her on wave 2 so she keep up , but that setup also lack dps as i take ettin with me which cripples party DPS. This strategy even worked but siren got stunned on w2 due to my inattention. Probably that can still work but its very inconsistent.
Currently thinking of getting pixie up ,but unsure if that is of any use as she might not have juice to keep up.


Man I must be really lucky! So far I've got 2 3d hyenas(recycled one =[), 4 3d wild boar, 4d swamp creature, 3d eagle, 3d hellhound, 3d owl, 3d troll, 3d inferno dancer, 3d lava crocodile, 3d lizard archer, and 3d gargoyle. For small creatures I got 2 4d parrot, 2 3d wildkin, 3d bee, 3d ant, 3d rabbit, 3d hen, 3d sword, and 3d blazewing.
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Dulkan
Dulkan


Known Hero
posted April 24, 2017 04:40 PM

Tress said:
Finally manage to progress to wave 3 of level 51. Even got as far as 20 % , however, can someone enlighten me how his silence works ?
At the end he put 99 turn silence on team and that was that. Did i slept some debuff i had to cleanse or is there something else ?


The silence is his finisher. It is unresistable. Kill him before he casts it or you are done.
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Tress
Tress


Hired Hero
posted April 24, 2017 04:43 PM

Yea game is very RNG on this matter, specially how good are you with creature quality drops. Game can be pretty frustrating without decent luck. Lately i have been getting much better drops so cant complain but still.

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Tress
Tress


Hired Hero
posted April 24, 2017 04:48 PM
Edited by Tress at 17:06, 24 Apr 2017.

Dulkan said:
Tress said:
Finally manage to progress to wave 3 of level 51. Even got as far as 20 % , however, can someone enlighten me how his silence works ?
At the end he put 99 turn silence on team and that was that. Did i slept some debuff i had to cleanse or is there something else ?


The silence is his finisher. It is unresistable. Kill him before he casts it or you are done.


So that means I would need team with good basic attack as even charges wont be usable.  Which is bad i guess since color countering messes up my team. I am basically going in with 3 healers, 2 red 1 blue (trog shaman / occultist/ siren which is resurrected at p2 ) and only 1 dedicated dps (awakened titan) , and ettin messes up the dynamic I sort of managed to finish wave 1 with no dispels , but wont be able to pull same w2. Aproxiamtelly how big is this DPS check ? Do I need combo active or 2-3 DPS dealers can be eanugh

BTW does he keep casting his healing debuf . I.E can mend still heal ?


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