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Thread: The moral degradation of todays teens/young adults. This thread is 7 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 · «PREV
Stevie
Stevie


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posted October 30, 2016 01:35 AM
Edited by Stevie at 01:53, 30 Oct 2016.

Okay, you guys are some real pussies.

There was one time when I got in a conflict with my cousin and I could've let it go and let him have his way. But I didn't, I kicked the snow out of him, punched his face and smashed him on a table. And you know what? I don't regret it, because he's grown to appreciate and respect me more and we now have a real bond. You see, some of you guys live under the impression that coping with someone else's inappropriate behavior gives you some sort of moral high ground because it's the desirable thing to do and even lament how ignorant of the whole situation they are, how they should be grateful to you for understanding and tolerating their actions. You're wrong, you're just being passive turds getting snowed around with because you LET people do that to you. And people WILL do that to you.

The importance of an action is given by its consequences, if you let people know the consequences of their actions, they'll think twice before they snow with you.
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AlexSpl
AlexSpl


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posted October 30, 2016 01:47 AM

Get over it. Don't let snow in and distance yourself from primitive forms of life.

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Salamandre
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posted October 30, 2016 01:55 AM

You are absolutely right! That's why I choose to live in a luxurious neighborhood.

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tSar-Ivor
tSar-Ivor


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posted October 30, 2016 02:42 AM
Edited by tSar-Ivor at 02:48, 30 Oct 2016.

Stevie said:
Okay, you guys are some real pussies.

There was one time when I got in a conflict with my cousin and I could've let it go and let him have his way. But I didn't, I kicked the snow out of him, punched his face and smashed him on a table. And you know what? I don't regret it, because he's grown to appreciate and respect me more and we now have a real bond. You see, some of you guys live under the impression that coping with someone else's inappropriate behavior gives you some sort of moral high ground because it's the desirable thing to do and even lament how ignorant of the whole situation they are, how they should be grateful to you for understanding and tolerating their actions. You're wrong, you're just being passive turds getting snowed around with because you LET people do that to you. And people WILL do that to you.

The importance of an action is given by its consequences, if you let people know the consequences of their actions, they'll think twice before they snow with you.


I can't exactly punch my nephew, the kid would literally die, and I'm not trying to boast, the friggin kid is like a delicate flower can't weigh any more than 30kg (can pick him up with one hand lol).

There's a world of difference between beating the living **** out of a peer and chastising a kid, idk what your point was, that we're pussies for not beating the daylights out of a child? Even if the punch is pulled (if you have to pull your punches it probably means you shouldn't be throwing them in the first place) it would still amount to gross excessive force.

Excuse us for being more civilised than a brute that makes his point with his fists.
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Stevie
Stevie


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posted October 30, 2016 02:10 AM

My point is simple - pain is the best teacher.
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fred79
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posted October 30, 2016 04:05 AM

i think maybe i need to clarify: i never meant punching a kid. i could easily kill a kid with punches, and if they died, they certainly wouldn't learn anything; now would they?

no, what i mean by asswhipping, is spanking. spanking is the only legal way to "learn a child but good". i'd say, anything worse would be categorized as abuse. and yet, there are some children i'd like to throw off a cliff. or at least, their parents. if the child saw me throw their worthless snowing parents off a cliff, they might get the idea to behave.

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Galaad
Galaad

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posted October 30, 2016 07:28 AM

Salamandre said:
I have a constant urge to punch in the face all leftists


Lol Sal, as much as you are an Emperor in the Heroes foras, in the OSM you're such a caveman.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted October 30, 2016 08:30 AM

Well, my commentary was ironical, had a proper quote and a proper context, which you probably didn't dare to read before throwing insults. However you are on topic, by proving not everyone in the young generation has a quality of education and this is what the thread is about, isn't it?
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Galaad
Galaad

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Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted October 30, 2016 08:43 AM

Damn Sal I was just taking a friendly poke here, relax.
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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted October 30, 2016 08:54 AM

Stevie said:
I'm fine with physical correction when it's for educational purposes and not for self-satisfaction. As a kid it did me well.

lt's pretty plain to see, it really, really didn't.

Btw, parents hitting their children and pacifism are totally different subjects. You having some quarrel with your nephew is not a pedological situation. A parent is already dominant over the child, no matter what he/she does, he/she's not trying to display power like a gorilla pumping his chest, that's not what parental authority is about.
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Stevie
Stevie


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posted October 30, 2016 08:56 AM
Edited by Stevie at 09:15, 30 Oct 2016.

Yea, okay, lol

Salamandre said:
before throwing insults


So he said you're as much of an emperor as you're a caveman, where's the insult exactly?
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JollyJoker
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posted October 30, 2016 09:29 AM

Stevie said:
My point is simple - pain is the bestteacher conditioner.

Just a little correction. And your point isn't simple, but instead biblical. Old-testamentarian, to be precise.

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Stevie
Stevie


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posted October 30, 2016 09:53 AM

No correction warranted there, but I digress.
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markkur
markkur


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posted October 30, 2016 02:11 PM

Beating and swatting are not nearly the same things. And therein lies the problem - young children can be taught that a "paddle" is an object of correction and all they need to do is "listen to you at-once" or else. By the time a kid is past 8 years old or thereabouts you better had already taught them this or it will be too late and you'll just have to hope they will settle down in the end. However, there are no guarantees with any method because kids are little people and some, it seems to me, are hardwired for mayhem.

Btw, I well know what "beatings" are...I got many (including football kicks). That is why I advocate an "Object of Authority" that is NOT a parents hand...like a paddle, because some angry people should never touch a child. My kids never flinched at only my hand but I often did with my own father.

Btw, I was always amazed when I heard Parents endlessly say; "I'm not going to tell you again" over and over and over to sideways-8, which of course proved they did not mean what they said. Then those parents will blame the kid. Yeah...right.

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frostysh
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posted October 30, 2016 02:40 PM

markkur said:
. . .  are hardwired for mayhem.
. . .
, I have found a little difference in the adult peoples which is bored with their life .
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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted October 30, 2016 03:00 PM

Markkur, I think you're missing out the part that your relationship with the kid is a whole package and it determines how responsive the kid is. I mean, the usual norm around here is yelling, too and if "I wont be telling you again" fails, they yell harder. Then, I have lots of relatives and family friends who are married to Americans, Germans and when I observe for differences, the mothers are usually much more communicative, which usually results in, the kids being much more calm and responsive as well.

And example, my parents had guests once and this little kid of theirs who was barely old enough to speak was "playing" with our dog, constantly annoying him, the mother (she is Turkish this time), called him and said, "look dear, that is a living thing just like you, wouldnt you be annoyed if we drew circles around you all the time, so does the dog, dont make him bark like that, it's like when someone makes you cry." The kid immediately stopped annoying the dog, without a peep. Now, most mothers routine reaction would be to shout "stop that now" etc and in such a case, the kid would maybe temporarily stop but then go at it again when he had the chance. So, it's kind of how you build things from the start.

A "shock value" slap that barely hurts, once or twice in a lifetime is certainly nothing to go to jail for but you may not be needing even that if you build a communication from the developing years.
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fred79
fred79


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posted October 30, 2016 05:22 PM

markkur said:
That is why I advocate an "Object of Authority" that is NOT a parents hand...like a paddle, because some angry people should never touch a child. My kids never flinched at only my hand but I often did with my own father.


that's actually a very good point to bring up. i've noticed that the kids will duck me sometimes when i'm moving past them(we play around alot), as if they're anticipating an attack(most of the time, i'll just poke their lats or tickle them, because i love tickling the hell out of kids). the nephew i've mentioned before, will duck or even hit the ground when he thinks my mom is after him, but only walking by.

very interesting point, indeed. maybe he needs something to focus on as a swat-device, instead of being afraid from time to time, of the actual people who care about him and only want him to improve on his behavior.

but of course, at this point it may no longer matter. he's pretty much stuck in his ways.

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fred79
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posted October 30, 2016 05:30 PM

artu said:
And example, my parents had guests once and this little kid of theirs who was barely old enough to speak was "playing" with our dog, constantly annoying him, the mother (she is Turkish this time), called him and said, "look dear, that is a living thing just like you, wouldnt you be annoyed if we drew circles around you all the time, so does the dog, dont make him bark like that, it's like when someone makes you cry." The kid immediately stopped annoying the dog, without a peep. Now, most mothers routine reaction would be to shout "stop that now" etc and in such a case, the kid would maybe temporarily stop but then go at it again when he had the chance. So, it's kind of how you build things from the start.

A "shock value" slap that barely hurts, once or twice in a lifetime is certainly nothing to go to jail for but you may not be needing even that if you build a communication from the developing years.


this kind of thing doesn't work on american kids. our culture is different(ignorance, distractions, and aggression are fostered here; not to mention all the hormones put in the food in the u.s.). i have tried explaining things to my nephew, to try and get him to understand what he's doing, and it has no effect on him at all.

one good point i see in him: he has a great relationship with the youngest nephew(who is really goddamn smart for his age. he'll grow up to be more intelligent than all of us, i expect). i'm not sure why he is so good to him(maybe because he understands how smart he is, and is trying to make a lifetime ally in his evil schemes or something, lol), but it is quite wonderful to see them interacting.

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted October 30, 2016 05:52 PM

Some kids will be more hyperactive than others and then you have a small minority who will be the psychos of tomorrow, but other than that,under a certain age, I think cultural differences will have minimum effect when it comes to being responsive to communication and explanations, I mean, if you are five, you are supposed to be ignorant, aren't you?

And as I said, from my limited observations, the American kids of my relatives and family friends were much more responsive compared to an average kid here. But maybe that's because they are away from home and they feel more clueless with all the foreign language around and similar stuff, or maybe it's more of a rural area/urban area difference.

In general, you have exceptionally spoiled teenagers though, I'll give you that.
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fred79
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posted October 30, 2016 05:59 PM

artu said:
In general, you have exceptionally spoiled teenagers though, I'll give you that.


we have exceptionally spoiled everybody. some much moreso than others. the working class drones, much less so. they're the class that holds this country up, in actuality. everyone else are just freeloaders.

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