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Gameslayer989
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Always looking for a fight!
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posted November 25, 2016 12:34 AM |
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Gameslayer beats AionB in a Sylvan vs Inferno match-up. Luck, Empathy and a whole lot of destructive force was brought to bear against the offensive demonic invasion, but a few lucky initiative rolls let the Sylvans take the initiative. PRISMATIC POWER killed a large portion of the infernal hordes, and then the Sylvans began to dig in whilst their druids channelled their magical power into a single arrow tip. The arrow struck true, and the whole devil stack was wiped. The infernal forces responded with dark puppet magic, forcing the reluctant sylvans to take to the field for a real fight. What followed was a gruesome melee of frenzy and death, but in the end the demons were blunted too heavily by the barfing dragon rainbows, resulting in glorious victory for a few trees and unicorns.
Watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yiodht8OV8M
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Aionb
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posted November 25, 2016 10:06 AM |
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I had expert luck, which triggered only once (I think) for the ballista (for which I didn't manage to get triple shot). I also had hellfire and hellwrath but I didn't see them triggering once  )
But it was a nice game, a sad start for me and an interesting ending. Things could have turned tight if I had a bit more troops left to keep on controlling the unicorns and hitting the treants, which had the mark of the damned on them.
Btw, is it normal to get only knowledge 7 times in a row as a demon lord?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 25, 2016 12:03 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 12:08, 25 Nov 2016.
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I love your excitable commentary, this is how heroes games should feel! Sweet prismatic, equally sweet puppets but that deep freeze was plain deadly. Sometimes it's worth getting swift mind just to attempt a puppet on the druids ^^ Oh the humanity! Also I was hoping to see an epic explosion from those overseers adjacent to the druids and dragon. Fun game, even better finish.
Normally attack should be higher but high knowledge is not uncommon. I've actually reduced knowledge odds a bit - which went into spellpower - to make the class a bit more versatile. With familiars inferno tends to have more mana than needed, ballista values were already too high and destructive needed a little extra sp.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 25, 2016 05:06 PM |
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Friday is upon us! Will we see a thrilling conclusion this evening?
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 25, 2016 05:13 PM |
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Gameslayer989
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Always looking for a fight!
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posted November 25, 2016 06:51 PM |
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I'd love to. In 2 hours I'll be around all day checking every 30 minutes for frosty to see if he's available.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 25, 2016 07:03 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 19:04, 25 Nov 2016.
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Aionb
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posted November 25, 2016 07:08 PM |
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Edited by Aionb at 19:29, 25 Nov 2016.
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I opened the GameRanger room, password is HComm. I'm waiting for Green Dragon or frostymuaddib.
I'm also on Hamachi, in Elvin's duel channel - I guess "frosty" is frostymuaddib, I'm Jim-Laptop.
I might not be all the time by my laptop but I'll get back eventually.
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The_Green_Drag 
Supreme Hero
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posted November 25, 2016 07:39 PM |
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 25, 2016 10:21 PM |
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An exciting replay 
You don't often see such an oddball dungeon which made for an interesting and close game.
Poor overeager berserkers fell for the bait, setting themselves up for a firebreath after their suicide attack  Dungeon's summons were great, fortress would be in trouble if it left the phoenix unchecked. While dungeon had good might stats and combat skills, the mass spells, warmachines and maintaining a wall for the shooters were what tipped the scales. With the phoenix gone, dungeon had too little mana to make a comeback. What else made a huge difference was vitality and mountain guards, these guys soaked freaky amounts of damage! But it was reckless to move them forward while the ballista was operational and in good health. The matriarchs had no more shots and the fire elementals were doing a lot of damage to not defend. Also aionb was stingy with his runes
With that out of the way, gameslayer and green dragon are both missing a game that could guarantee them a spot in the next phase. Their 3/6 is technically higher than diegis and palingenesis 3/7 but it would be plain cheesy to play it this way. I think the fairest solution would be to find a substitute for frosty and let them both play their last game. In case of victory, they move on. In case of loss, there is a tie with diegis and palingenesis and they have one more fight with one of them.
What do you say?
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Gameslayer989
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Always looking for a fight!
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posted November 25, 2016 10:26 PM |
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Funnily enough, looking at it that way frosty has the best score out of everyone here 
If diegis and palingenesis had both beat frosty I would have a problem with this, but since frost beat them both I don't.
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DIEGIS
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted November 25, 2016 10:50 PM |
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Edited by DIEGIS at 22:57, 25 Nov 2016.
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I agree Elvin, only that a substitute of frosty should play with all of 4 us Simply as that! 
If no substitute or frosty dont show up....anullation over his game 
edit:
it really shades .... have no idea ... we'll vote!
Elvin can use his vote of censure though!
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Gameslayer989
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Always looking for a fight!
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posted November 26, 2016 12:13 AM |
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The problem with that Diegis is that Frosty beat both of you. If we have the sub play you then you'd have 8 games to our 7. The only way that could work is if you guys lose in a tie in the event we both win, but that's still 4 more games to schedule and play as opposed to 2, which can potentially take a while
This is a tricky situation indeed.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 26, 2016 01:28 AM |
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A replacement for frosty has been found, meet MonsterMash
Welcome aboard mate, be sure to give green dragon and gameslayer trouble
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 26, 2016 01:54 AM |
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DIEGIS
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted November 26, 2016 09:00 AM |
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Edited by DIEGIS at 10:06, 26 Nov 2016.
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I agree with that, even its another player
hopping for the best of him! 
edit
I wonder what will be written in the tiles pali/monster and diegis/monster .... after all we wont fight this new ... monster
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The_Green_Drag
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posted November 26, 2016 01:48 PM |
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Sup Guys
Just a little info on the MonsterMash! I told him to post a 'whats up' on here but I see that he did not
You might notice he plays a bit like me because....I trained him  He's my roomate/friend. He's not exactly a Heroes fan so I doubt he'll be on HC much but he's gotten pretty good at this duel map.
We agreed to playing best of three, mostly because we can play faster since we're right here, and on LAN. We also play fairly quick games. We were going to be done last night but the second game was so fast, I completely forgot to save the replay (not used to having to save it when I play him ) and we ended up just playing something else after  We'll get the rest of our games in later but I want to give priority to Gameslayer since we can play anytime, and he cannot.
He wanted to Join the Tourney but he mentioned that to me a few days after Elvin made the deadline so I never even asked but he will be joining the cup of the fallen!
Gameslayer: He will be back from work in several hours, I think around 3 or 3:30(its about 8 oclock right now) and then open to play any games!
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted November 26, 2016 02:40 PM |
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Meanwhile some bad news regarding my solution for cold death insta-killing wm and phoenix. Giving a free copy of bearhide wraps indeed has that effect, a phoenix or ballista would drop to 25% of its hp instead of dropping dead. All I had to do was give the appropriate boost to ice so that it counters the damage reduction from the artifact.
But there are some complications.
For one, warlock's irresistible spells bypass the cold reduction. That means, warlocks get extra ice damage unlike the rest of the factions. Because they benefit from the extra damage I gave the spell to offset the reduction
Then I started suspecting that the reduction would indirecly nerf cold death since its mechanics add cold damage. And when I went to test with a warlock I saw that with cold death and the artifact, deep freeze did not kill the ballista while icebolt and frost ring did. No doubt a bug from irresistible spells. That was the last straw and I gave up on that idea.
I could use some opinions on cold death.
As far as I know, warmachines do not have a unit file like normal creatures so I cannot give them an ability. And even so, there is no 25% water protection ability, artifact properties cannot be applied to units and 25% magic proof will not protect from cold death. And even if I could make a ballista magic immune, that would be unfair towards magic factions. So while I can make a phoenix immune to ice, cold death would still insta-kill warmachines.
I obviously cannot make a rule to not use ice spells on warmachines so the question is, are you fine with cold death destroying warmachines on touch? Objectively speaking, it is unfair since you spend 4-6 skill points on them while cold death only requires 2. And it is an ability you will want regardless of enemy build unlike other hard counters that may or not be useful to invest in.
There is one last solution and I'm not sure I like it myself: Remove cold death and slightly boost ice spells to bridge the gap with fire spells. The main problem here is that cold death is a unique ability that I would hate to see gone. But the good part is that ballista and phoenix would be safer to use and not destroyed with a simple icebolt.
This tourney is for you and so is the decision to keep things as they are or change them How do you feel about it?
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 26, 2016 02:49 PM |
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zaio-baio
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted November 26, 2016 04:25 PM |
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Delete map editor and stop messing around
Or mb make basic/advanced/expert warmachines give +5/10/20% magic protection ? That way cold death will still insta kill the warmachines, but destro spells wont be so effective vs ur army ?
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