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Blizzardboy
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posted January 28, 2017 01:55 AM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 01:58, 28 Jan 2017.

CalExit

http://m.sfgate.com/news/article/CalExit-Measure-Gets-OK-to-Collect-State-Ballot-10889364.php

It has begun. (Mortal Kombat voice)

;p

This is a very, very preliminary stage but I'm interested to see where it goes.
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AlexSpl
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posted January 28, 2017 02:13 AM

I don't think it will ever happen. I doubt Californians want to pay for the wall. And without US army Cali is basically defenseless.

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Blizzardboy
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posted January 28, 2017 02:48 AM

AlexSpl said:
I doubt Californians want to pay for the wall.


lol
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Raenus
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posted January 28, 2017 04:05 AM

Never gonna happen. Clever reporting also, notice how she said that support has tripled since Trump's inauguration? Honestly how many supporters do you think they had last year? Triple that is still pathetically small.

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phe
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posted January 28, 2017 09:35 AM

They should move to East along with other non-Latino and non-native-Indians to bring these lands back to Mexico due to historic justice...

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kipshasz
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posted January 28, 2017 11:12 AM
Edited by kipshasz at 11:14, 28 Jan 2017.

phe said:
They should move to East along with other non-Latino and non-native-Indians to bring these lands back to Mexico due to historic justice...


So, should Poland return East Prussia and their western lands to Germany? Wanna go there buddy? Historic justice for all.


On a more on topic note, I've heard some texan fellas also started a secession movement.
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posted January 28, 2017 11:20 AM
Edited by phe at 11:26, 28 Jan 2017.

Germany lost it as retribution for all their crimes and damage done during WW2...
US crimes against Mexico and Mexican people are tremendous...against many other countries too...Mexico should get back its lands and retribution...these other countries should get retribution from US too...

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kipshasz
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posted January 28, 2017 11:45 AM

Wasn't California sold to the US at one point?

So by your logic, Alaska should be returned to Russia as well.
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posted January 28, 2017 11:51 AM
Edited by phe at 11:53, 28 Jan 2017.

It was result of war between US and Mexico not transaction...US was a bad side in this war...

Alaska was sold to US...

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kipshasz
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posted January 28, 2017 12:21 PM

Let's also give back the teritory of US sold as "Louisiana" back to the French. That'll repay some american "war crimes".

Let's also reinstate some of the old European Empires as well. Give India back to the Brits. Or better, yet, make America Great Britain again! That'll undo all the stuff that happened centuries ago!

You really want to continue this and derail the thread further?
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posted January 28, 2017 12:24 PM

Let's give North Ireland to Ireland and Scotland to Scots, then. A positive outcome after Brexit.
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kipshasz
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posted January 28, 2017 12:28 PM

EnergyZ said:
Let's give North Ireland to Ireland and Scotland to Scots, then. A positive outcome after Brexit.


Reinstating North Ireland back for Ireland is actually a good idea. Atleast the IRA would calm then.


But on the other hand, redrawing maps is a pain, and that could lead into a international crisis, which could potentially lead to a global conflict.
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posted January 28, 2017 12:31 PM

France sold Luisiana and doesnt deserve to get it...North Ireland should be get back to Ireland...English people from there should be moved to England...Scotland should be independent...

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kipshasz
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posted January 28, 2017 12:37 PM
Edited by kipshasz at 12:39, 28 Jan 2017.

So mexico deserves to get California, because it was once mexican, but france doesn't deserve to get Louisiana, because it was once french?

On what basis? I mean if theoretically, we divide US teritory to the nations that once owned then, then why not?


Poland should also get Vilnius then, because of a baseless "Wilno jest Polskie miasto"(Vilnius is a polish city) argument, right?
But on that, there is a failsafe instated and an agreement between our two countries. No claims for Vilnius from Polaks, and we in return forsake our claim to Suwalki region, which is technically ethnic Lithuanian lands. Helskinki treaty. That's what it's called afaik. and it enforces no border modifications in the region.
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posted January 28, 2017 12:55 PM
Edited by phe at 13:22, 28 Jan 2017.

California went to US as result of war...Luisiana was sold...its just many Polish people lived in Vilnus...because a lot of people moved there doesnt make Vilnus Polish...So etnic numbers are not always most important...Suwalki region etnic issues needs profound survey...when Lithuanians and whem Poles got there, historic background, mutual relations etc...

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kipshasz
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posted January 28, 2017 06:41 PM

Let's theorize a bit here.

Let's say the secession thing passes and USA is left with 49 states and the transition to an independent nation (lol, that'll happen) goes smoothly. Then what? Do these whiners have a plan of sorts, what to do next? The liberals aiming for this must realise that when seceded, there will be no federal funds to leech, and Soros and company cannot survive long on organ transplants(sooner or later their organisms will begin to show signs of exhaustion from the surgeries) to keep injecting them with funds.

Also, just how many of Californians, not the ones from Liberal cesspits like Los Angeles and San Francisco, are supporting this notion? Not many I think.

In all reality, this is the part of liberal tantrum, just because Trump won.
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posted January 28, 2017 07:53 PM

kipshasz said:
EnergyZ said:
Let's give North Ireland to Ireland and Scotland to Scots, then. A positive outcome after Brexit.


Reinstating North Ireland back for Ireland is actually a good idea. Atleast the IRA would calm then.


But on the other hand, redrawing maps is a pain, and that could lead into a international crisis, which could potentially lead to a global conflict.


Northern Ireland is staunchly protestant and anti union sadly.
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artu
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posted January 28, 2017 08:58 PM

Yep, I was surprised to learn that when I was in the U.K., while it mostly appears like a nationalistic one, the actual dividing conflict is between the Protestants and Catholics.
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verriker
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posted January 28, 2017 09:12 PM

actually in my personal experience of Northern Ireland you've got that the other way around mate, one would be led to believe it is all to do with minor religious differences but in reality it is about national identity and united Ireland way before any of that bollocks lol
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artu
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posted January 29, 2017 02:21 AM
Edited by artu at 02:32, 29 Jan 2017.

When you say "way before" are you talking about the historical origins of the conflict that goes back centuries, or do you mean people talking about protestant/catholic conflict are manufacturing a revisionist "bullocks" that wasn't even the heart of the matter in the 19th or 20th century?

What I was explained was that the separatist Catholic Irish were not only in conflict with the English but were also in conflict with the northern Protestant Irish. Needless to say, I'm not talking about a "theological" conflict but a social/political one.
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