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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: S map size strategies
Thread: S map size strategies
batoonike
batoonike


Known Hero
posted January 30, 2017 05:15 PM

S map size strategies

So I sometimes play multiplayer on gameranger with S size random map and no rules. It is super luck based and weird but kind of fun. What do you think are the best strategies? So far:
ivor + grand elves on day 2
solmyr + master gremlins
golem specialist + master gremlins

Should probably try a ballista hero?

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tyranuxus
tyranuxus


Hired Hero
posted January 30, 2017 07:30 PM

Not enough informations

What about the difficulty? 160%? 130%? Need to know.

What kind of template is that? It should be important.

So far, I think one of the best starts you can get from a city + hero, who's a specialist in low level units, such as Valeska(Archers), Cahl(Gogs). If possible, upgrade shooters. In small maps you won't get any quick units or mass spells, so shooters shall be the best choise. If playing with Horn Of the Abbys, might be good to start with Canon.

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OhforfSake
OhforfSake


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posted January 31, 2017 12:45 PM

No mentioning of Galthran or Shakti?

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batoonike
batoonike


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posted February 01, 2017 04:41 PM
Edited by batoonike at 16:43, 01 Feb 2017.

tyranuxus said:
What about the difficulty? 160%? 130%? Need to know.

What kind of template is that? It should be important.

So far, I think one of the best starts you can get from a city + hero, who's a specialist in low level units, such as Valeska(Archers), Cahl(Gogs). If possible, upgrade shooters. In small maps you won't get any quick units or mass spells, so shooters shall be the best choise. If playing with Horn Of the Abbys, might be good to start with Canon.


It's pretty much default templates and difficulty from 130-200. Shooters are super important indeed. The issue is that magic heroes like warlocks destroy them with a few magic arrows. Especially annoying if they come with 7 weak units and then kill a bunch of your archers and then attack with the main army, that also has magic hero

The effectiveness of a lot of slow units is kind of questionable. You may start with 120 skeletons but when they reach the shooters it will be more like 50 and you still need to kill all the stacks that protect the shooters. If shooters are fast then skeletons become especially vulnerable, like grand elves on grass with ivor or anything with sir mullich.

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batoonike
batoonike


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posted February 26, 2017 01:42 PM
Edited by batoonike at 13:47, 26 Feb 2017.

The recent experience has been that Ciele with magic arrow just kills everything. Can't really think of anything that can beat starting with conflux and her. She starts with 7 magic arrows, 60 damage each. This is really messed up in a first few days where games often end on S map.

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AnkVaati
AnkVaati


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posted February 26, 2017 02:09 PM
Edited by AnkVaati at 14:10, 26 Feb 2017.

batoonike said:
The recent experience has been that Ciele with magic arrow just kills everything. Can't really think of anything that can beat starting with conflux and her. She starts with 7 magic arrows, 60 damage each. This is really messed up in a first few days where games often end on S map.
Ciele is great for rushes, but Luna with fire wall is even better imho. You can crush most of the walkers walkers with just a single pixie. Never really pulled that off, but in many cases you can squash almost all of the map with just sprites/storm/ice (archery comes in handy) and the ballista. Luna's the only hero that kinda nullifies how HotA made Sprites cost a lot more due building requirements which was kinda draconian imho, due the fact that they're still squishy as snow.

Good that there are some fans of flux around. Happen to be one of few people who like them while lamenting the exclusion of the Forge at the same time.
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batoonike
batoonike


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posted February 26, 2017 09:22 PM

Don't get me wrong, flux is terrible idea It's just efficient and has a good hero for S maps.

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zmudziak22
zmudziak22


Famous Hero
posted March 01, 2017 08:24 PM

You can also try Stronghold/Fortress.

Gurnission with his Ballista can deal good damage, and he can get nice skills like Archery(which gives more power to Ballista), Tactics, Ballistics or Armorer.

Fortress is about rush and making units as hard as stone/rock.

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